Predictions 2008

[alo_saints_fan]

Stole this off the Richmond Board. Just everyones opinion on what they think is in store for the Sainters in 08!

Position: 7th-3rd
Trevor Barker Medalist: Nick Dal Santo
B'n'F top 6: Dal, Ball, Riewoldt, Kosi, Hayes, Goddard
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi (50)-will be shared around without G train
Most Improved: Watts
Debutants: Allen, Van Reehnan, Gardiner

What you will see: A strong midfeild/backline delivering to forwards lace-out. F. Watts stepping up.

What you won't see: Last quarter fade outs, lots of injuries.

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Raymond, Brooks

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Blake, Rix, L Fisher

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Watts

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Position: 5th-3rd
Trevor Barker Medalist: Sam Fisher
B'n'F top 6: S Fisher, Ball, Dal Santo, Kosi, Goddard, Montagna (maybe Harvey)
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi mainly by replacing Gehrig and because of his grater accuracy and ability to kick them when we need them.
Most Improved: Ball hopefully by being injury free.
Debutants: ??

What you will see: A strong backline with a quicker midfield, delivering to forwards down the center of the ground. Riewoldt still not kicking the goals when we need them.

What you won't see: Last quarter fade outs, lots of injuries.

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Brooks

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Blake, Milne

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Gardiner

 

[Modra93]

Position: 3rd-8th
Trevor Barker Medalist: Nick Riewoldt
B'n'F top 6: Riewoldt, DalSanto, Montagna, Fisher, Hayes, Koschitzke
Leading Goal Kicker: Riewoldt with 50-70
Most Improved: X Clarke (please)
Debutants: Allen and Geary

What you will see: A fierce tackling side that out pressures opposition sides and kicks long to a koschitzke riewoldt combo.

What you won't see: Last quarter fade outs.

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Raymond, Blake

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Blake

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Watts, Geary, Gardiner

 

[stkilda_liverpool]

Position: 3rd-5th
Trevor Barker Medalist: Lenny Hayes
B'n'F top 6: Hayes, Kosi, Roo, Ball, Dalsanto, Gram
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi/Riewoldt 50
Most Improved: Gardiner
Debutants: Allen + Gardiner

What you will see: Gardiner stepping up and having the best working midfield in the comp (Under a full pre season with RL our midfield will be awesome)

What you won't see: No losses by more than 30+pts

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Raymond, Blake

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Blake

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Watts, Gardiner, Allen

 

[HoldenMCaulfield]

Position: Top 4
Trevor Barker Medalist: Riewoldt
B'n'F top 6: Riewoldt, DalSanto, Gilbert, S Fisher, Harvey, Hayes
Leading Goal Kicker: Riewoldt
Most Improved: Armitage, Gilbert
Debutants: Gardiner, van Rheenan

What you will see: aggressive and manned-up defence, fast and long kicking attacks

What you won't see: extreme flooding, external hick-ups, too many injuries

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Raymond, Brooks

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: L Fisher, Houdghton

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Goddard

 

[huggy_b]

Position: top 8
Trevor Barker Medalist: Luke Ball
B'n'F top 6: Ball, Gram, Kosi, Reiwoldt, Hayes, Gardiner
Leading Goal Kicker: Watts
Most Improved: Gwilt
Debutants: Van Reehnan, Gardiner

What you will see: A dedicated quality ruckman controlling the ball to our midfield

What you won't see: flooding

Who should not be on the 08' List? McQualter

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Blake

Players who will join the best 22 by years end: Armitage, Watts, Goddard, Birss

 

[The Punter]

Position: top 8
Trevor Barker Medalist: Nick Riewoldt
B'n'F top 6: Riewoldt, Dal Santo, Ball, Montagna, S Fisher, Koschitzke
Leading Goal Kicker: Watts
Most Improved: Armitage
Debutants: Allen, Van Rheenan

What you will see: A top-two defence
What you won't see: Anyone kick 70 goals in the season

Who should not be on the 08' List? Raymond

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Rix

Players who will join the best 22 by years end: Gardiner

 

[Axcellence]

Position: 10-14
Trevor Barker Medalist: Lenny Hayes
B'n'F top 6: Hayes, Riewoldt, Ball, Dal Santo, S Fisher, Gilbert
Leading Goal Kicker: Milne
Most Improved: J Allen
Debutants: Allen, (2007 Draftees), Trade Purchases

What you will see: More defensive crap resulting in footy spending more in St Kilda's back half and staying there. Robert Harvey finally breaking down.
What you won't see: Ross Lyon showing media savvyness, St Kilda having great games where they beat the opposition by 100 points or more....

Who should not be on the 08' List? Raymond, Rix, C Jones, Blake

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Watts

Players who will join the best 22 by years end: Allen

 

[saintsownthedome]

Surely you've got better things to do than come on here and waste your time trolling ??

Sorry, forgot....school holidays.

 

[Bourky23]

as much as it pains me to say it... axcellence's post is the most accurate so far guys.. sure optimism is great and i hope we go well but guys we were rubbish last year and i'm not sure the turnaround will be as dramatic as we are all hoping.. to those people suggesting we'll finish top 4.... dream on!! we'll be lucky to make the 8

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Position: 3rd-6th
Trevor Barker Medalist: Nick Riewoldt
B'n'F top 6: Riewoldt, Hayes, S.Fisher, Dal Santo, Koschitzke, Montagna
Leading Goal Kicker: Riewoldt
Most Improved: Raph Clarke
Debutants: Allen, Geary (Gardiner)

What you will see: A slow start to the season with everything looking gloomy, but after getting their act together around round 8 a strong second half of the season with a near full-strength team they will make an impact in the finals.

What you won't see: Clint Jones have an effective kick over 35m.

Who should not be on the 08' List? (Assuming that Sweeney, Raymond and Wall are the only delisted players)
Rix, Jones, Ferguson

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Jones, Birss, McQualter

Round 1 Team
B: S.Fisher, Hudghton, R.Clarke
HB: Gram, Maguire, L.Fisher
C: Fiora, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Goddard, Riewoldt, Jones
F: X.Clarke, Koschitzke, Milne

Foll: Gardiner, Ball, Dal Santo
Int: Birss, Gilbert, Harvey, McQualter

Players who will join the best 22 by years end: Baker, Geary, Brooks

 

[Modra93]

bourky remember we showed signs in the seond half of the year, look how quickly geelong turned it around, some good luck and strong form can do anything, we only just missed the 8 after a terrible start

 

[one_glove]

Who should not be on the 08' List? (Assuming that Sweeney, Raymond and Wall are the only delisted players)
Harvey, Rix, Jones, Ferguson

Am I reading correctly? death to you... unless you are referring to the fact he physically shouldn't compared to normal humans but is an abnormal freak...

 

[holllywood]

Position: 6-10
Trevor Barker Medalist: Ball
B'n'F top 6: Ball, Rewoildt, Dal, Hayes, Gram, S. Fisher
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi
Most Improved: D Armitage
Debutants: Allen, (2007 Draftees), Pick 9, Gardiner

What you will see: Well disciplined, hard tackling but not so high scoring team
What you won't see: As many soft tissue injuries, aaron hamill

Who should not be on the 08' List? Raymond, C Jones, Blake

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end: Blake

Players who will join the best 22 by years end: Armitage, Allen

 

[NeXus_Helen]

Position: 10th-14th
Trevor Barker Medalist: Nick Dal Santo
B'n'F top 6: Dal, Riewoldt, Hayes, Sam Fisher, Gram, Gilbert
Leading Goal Kicker: Watts
Most Improved: Watts
Debutants: No idea

What you will see: Barry Brooks stepping up to the plate.

What you won't see: St. Kilda playing in the finals.

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Don't know.

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end:
Rix.

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Watts.

 

[SIR SAINT HOTDOG]

Position: 4th-1st
Trevor Barker Medalist: Lenny Hayes
B'n'F top 6: Lenny Hayes, Nick Riewoldt, Kosi, N Dal Santo, S Fisher and L Ball
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi
Most Improved: Debutants: Gardiner
What you will see:
A more attacking gameplan

What you won't see:
Rix
Who should not be on the 08' List?
Rix,Milne,Raymond,Ferguson


Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end:
Blake

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage

 

[ultimate hater]

I think the positive predictions are right on track.. Don't know why people are bothering putting negative ones up.. like saying we won't make the eight?? we had a very poor start to the season this year but a fairly good second half.. saying we won't make the eight is ridiculous.. there is no way we will do worse than this year, after all the injuries and a brand new coach everyone had to get use to.. we will be a cracking side next year with everyone prepped to get a full pre-season under their belts (which is an absolute key and very understated how important it really is)..

 

[Bourky23]

i'm not saying we'll be worse than last season.. you have to realize other teams will get better as well... brisbane, doggies, freo all missed the 8 last year and i rekon at least 2 of the 3 mentioned have better lists than we do

 

[NeXus_Helen]

i'm not saying we'll be worse than last season.. you have to realize other teams will get better as well... brisbane, doggies, freo all missed the 8 last year and i rekon at least 2 of the 3 mentioned have better lists than we do

Bourky23, you are one of the very few on this site and SAINTSATIONAL who are able to look at St.kilda without ROSE-COLOURED-GLASSES. I think your prediction above is spot on. You are absolutely correct regarding the Lions, Dogs and Dockers. I expect at least 2 of them to finish higher than us for sure. You also have got Richmond and Carlton who will improve. The 3 teams that will be on the slide are Sydney, Adelaide and St.kilda. This is why I am predicting St.kilda will finish anywhere between 10th and 14th. Of course nearly all the posters are saying top 8 and a lot are saying top 4. Don't get me wrong, I hope they are correct, but unfortunately I don't think so.....and neither do you.

 

[cormdoga]

Position: 13th-15th
Trevor Barker Medalist: Sam Fisher
B'n'F top 6: Sam Fisher, Nick Dal Santo, Jason Gram, Justin Kosi, Brendon Goddard, Leigh Montagna
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi
Most Improved: Sam Gilbert
Debutants: Gardiner

What you will see: 15 injuries again...riewoldt out for the season. Sam Gilbert be an All-Australian. Saints window closed.

What you won't see: Riewoldt playing all year. Saints having luck. Brooks get any good.

Who should not be on the 08' List?
X.Clarke, R.Clarke, M.Rix, B.Brooks

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end:
Hopefully x.clarke and r.clarke because there not in our best 22.

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Gardiner.


I just dont see the saints ever getting luck on their side...i love the saints but i dont see us winning a flag, our luck is always terrible, i wish im wrong but it always happens to us.

 

[grac]

Position: 13th-15th
Trevor Barker Medalist: Sam Fisher
B'n'F top 6: Sam Fisher, Nick Dal Santo, Jason Gram, Justin Kosi, Brendon Goddard, Leigh Montagna
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi
Most Improved: Sam Gilbert
Debutants: Gardiner

What you will see: 15 injuries again...riewoldt out for the season. Sam Gilbert be an All-Australian. Saints window closed.

What you won't see: Riewoldt playing all year. Saints having luck. Brooks get any good.

Who should not be on the 08' List?
X.Clarke, R.Clarke, M.Rix, B.Brooks

Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end:
Hopefully x.clarke and r.clarke because there not in our best 22.

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Gardiner.


I just dont see the saints ever getting luck on their side...i love the saints but i dont see us winning a flag, our luck is always terrible, i wish im wrong but it always happens to us.

You are a complete pumpkin.

 

[Modra93]

Bourky23, you are one of the very few on this site and SAINTSATIONAL who are able to look at St.kilda without ROSE-COLOURED-GLASSES. I think your prediction above is spot on. You are absolutely correct regarding the Lions, Dogs and Dockers. I expect at least 2 of them to finish higher than us for sure. You also have got Richmond and Carlton who will improve. The 3 teams that will be on the slide are Sydney, Adelaide and St.kilda. This is why I am predicting St.kilda will finish anywhere between 10th and 14th. Of course nearly all the posters are saying top 8 and a lot are saying top 4. Don't get me wrong, I hope they are correct, but unfortunately I don't think so.....and neither do you.

Although I agree that everyone else will be improving as well I think you may be underestimating how good a side we can actually be. Unless we have key players go down with injury we should be looking at a top 6 spot no questions asked.We still have stars and they are hiting there prime.

We had a first year coach this year and it takes time to get used to the new style. If the season began from round 11 onwards we would have finished 3rd and we were within 3 goals in the 4th quarter in every game. That is a positive sign going into next year. That said it will still be very hard to climb the ladder but we definitely have the resources to do so. Just my thoughts anyway

 

[Bulldogs_6]

First of all modra and helen get a room.!
Saints will finish top 8 next year without a doubt. With all the reitrees they will have a stronger younger side freseher legs and i can see them making top 4.! You talk about the sides that are also going to improve but you didnt mention sides that will slide :
In my opinion, eagles, kangas, adelaide, sydney and maybe a few more, stkilda supporters you have nothing to worry about you will make a good challenge next year

 

[Darkhour]

Position: Top 4
Trevor Barker Medalist: Lenny Hayes
B'n'F top 6: Lenny Hayes, Nick Riewoldt, Kosi, N Dal Santo, S Fisher and L Montagna
Leading Goal Kicker: Kosi/Roo
Most Improved: Gilbert, X & R Clarke, Fiora, Jones
Debutants: Gardiner

What you will see:
A more attacking game plan that is strong all around the field.

What you won't see:
Excessive flooding, Cursed Injuried

Who should not be on the 08' List?
Raymond


Players who will start in the best 22, but won't be there by seasons end:
?

Players who will join the best 22 by years end:
Armitage, Gardiner, Jones, Goddard

And to all those nimwits with the pessimistic attitudes... - If you don't want to be passionate and optimistic about St Kilda FC then go find another hobby.. sport.. team.. whatever.. this is what it's all about..

 

[Axcellence]

Surely you've got better things to do than come on here and waste your time trolling ??

Sorry, forgot....school holidays.

ooh... and you are? Mate, I've been a member ever since I've started following st kilda - and It's been YEARS since I've been to a school of any sort... How about you check the history of the poster before you accuse him / her of being a troll??

And to all those nimwits with the pessimistic attitudes... - If you don't want to be passionate and optimistic about St Kilda FC then go find another hobby.. sport.. team.. whatever.. this is what it's all about...

Funny... you are the smart bloke, right? I am probably more of a nimwit following St Kilda. A club whose fans call other "FELLOW ST KILDA SUPPORTERS" names just cause they have a different world view... I thought being passionate about a club can also mean despairing when things are not going great, and being realistic as well... But, HEY, I am the nimwit and you are the smart, lovable positive St Kilda supporter, aye?