Public Housing

[de_LICA_ish18]

I might get some backlash here but this has been a subject that has bugged me for a long time.

Every now and then you get a story on today tonight or in the paper about the public housing crisis. Its usually the same old story, a family who has been on a waiting list for 4 years who is squished into a caravan.

Firstly why are people on these lists for so long? Seriously how long does it take to get your shit together? Get a job, the market is great.

Secondly and the thing that really bugs me. In these stories they focus on a family with young kids.....kids that have been born way after they got onto this waiting list.

It annoys me that there is so many irresponsible people out there who created their situation and who scream poor me.

I'm sure that there are people who are in need but when I see a story like what was in the paper yesterday it pisses me off (single mother, 5 kids....1 was 6 months, been on a waiting list for years). STOP HAVING KIDS FFS.

 

[sear]

i agree with your point about people being irresponsible and having more children when they cant afford them. but as for people who are on waiting lists being considered lazy for not getting thier act together - thats not always true. how is a single mother expected to get a job when she has children under 5? she is unlikely to get a job that suits her needs and if she did it is likely to be a low paid one. also, with childcare so expensive and hard to get, even finding time to work would be difficult.

These people do need our help and are the ones who public housing is there to help. but your right, some people who sit around relying on dole payments and public housing should get their act together - although there are problems with the centerlink system that im not even going to go into so the system does work against them as well....

 

[Alex99]

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment on the subject (see sig) but the next few days are not the time to worry about petty little things like that.

Christmas is about giving rather than taking and as unfortunate as it is kids cannot control who are their parents and the ones who are in that position will not be receiving much tomorrow and that makes me sad.

 

[de_LICA_ish18]

True c98. I feel bad for the kids and also worry they'll get caught in the same cycle. it must be a tough way to grow up. For something like the kmart wishing tree you can buy for kids or mums or dads. I would never buy one for a parent as in most cases they have caused their own circumstances. Unfortunately there would be some in that position due to illness or abuse etc for whom I feel badly for.

I understand why the system is there and some people end up there thru no fault of their own. Its the long term ones who dont do anything to make their life better that bug me or whom allow their situation to get worse and expect my sympathy. if you get cheap housing, where is the incentive to get a better job?

....but yeah probably not the best timing for this.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

On a similar thought-line.

I'm not particularly well-off. Safe enough employment, and decent income. While I'm certainly not extravagent in lifestyle, I do have 'disposable income'. This time of year is generally enjoyable for me and my family.

Every year at Xmas, I usually spend $250 or so for gifts to donate to the various local charities, one store in particular gives a 25% discount on purchases if they are donated, I often spend a bit there. I might donate 25 or so presents in total.

Today we had a bbq for a local charity. About 20 families attended, and every kid got a present (including my own son). Although they are given randomly (boy or girl gifts only acknowledgement), there is opportunity for trading, etc so most/all kids get something they like.

It's amazing how a kid who gets 'nothing' can be esctatic about receiving the most unattractive gift, simply as they aren't accustomed to being given anything. A truly nice feeling, and something I'm quite proud of being a part of.

I noticed one lady, who's children didn't unwrap their presents. She told them which packages to grab, then took them. I didn't think much of it, presuming they would just be opened tomorrow. I recognised one wrapping as one of my own purchases.

Late this afternoon, I headed into the local second-hand shop to see the owner, a friend of mine. The woman was in there, collecting $$$ for what I'm presuming are the presents her children should of received. Again, although concerned, I didn't think anything of it. Perhaps she needed the $$ for food.

As I left the second-hand shop, I saw her again, this time leaving the service station accross the road, furiously unwrapping a new packet of cigarettes, and one of those cheap store lighters.

I feel so sorry for her kids. In that single instant I lost all respect for her. How could anyone do that to their own kids?

 

[TheBrownlowMan37]

On a similar thought-line.

I'm not particularly well-off. Safe enough employment, and decent income. While I'm certainly not extravagent in lifestyle, I do have 'disposable income'. This time of year is generally enjoyable for me and my family.

Every year at Xmas, I usually spend $250 or so for gifts to donate to the various local charities, one store in particular gives a 25% discount on purchases if they are donated, I often spend a bit there. I might donate 25 or so presents in total.

Today we had a bbq for a local charity. About 20 families attended, and every kid got a present (including my own son). Although they are given randomly (boy or girl gifts only acknowledgement), there is opportunity for trading, etc so most/all kids get something they like.

It's amazing how a kid who gets 'nothing' can be esctatic about receiving the most unattractive gift, simply as they aren't accustomed to being given anything. A truly nice feeling, and something I'm quite proud of being a part of.

I noticed one lady, who's children didn't unwrap their presents. She told them which packages to grab, then took them. I didn't think much of it, presuming they would just be opened tomorrow. I recognised one wrapping as one of my own purchases.

Late this afternoon, I headed into the local second-hand shop to see the owner, a friend of mine. The woman was in there, collecting $$$ for what I'm presuming are the presents her children should of received. Again, although concerned, I didn't think anything of it. Perhaps she needed the $$ for food.

As I left the second-hand shop, I saw her again, this time leaving the service station accross the road, furiously unwrapping a new packet of cigarettes, and one of those cheap store lighters.

I feel so sorry for her kids. In that single instant I lost all respect for her. How could anyone do that to their own kids?

The last part of that post is infuriating

Well done on doing something for the less fortunate people in our society, though

 

[de_LICA_ish18]

That is disgusting. Strangers donating gifts care about those kids more than their own mother. Its incredibly sad, they are just pawns in this whole thing.

 

[Tigerdude3]

I might get some backlash here but this has been a subject that has bugged me for a long time.

Every now and then you get a story on today tonight or in the paper about the public housing crisis. Its usually the same old story, a family who has been on a waiting list for 4 years who is squished into a caravan.

Firstly why are people on these lists for so long? Seriously how long does it take to get your shit together? Get a job, the market is great.

Secondly and the thing that really bugs me. In these stories they focus on a family with young kids.....kids that have been born way after they got onto this waiting list.

It annoys me that there is so many irresponsible people out there who created their situation and who scream poor me.

I'm sure that there are people who are in need but when I see a story like what was in the paper yesterday it pisses me off (single mother, 5 kids....1 was 6 months, been on a waiting list for years). STOP HAVING KIDS FFS.

**** U . I would like u to live in my shoes for a week . You'd end up dead

 

[RoosterLad]

Too many slappers in this world.

 

[de_LICA_ish18]

**** U . I would like u to live in my shoes for a week . You'd end up dead

would I? You'd be surprised