Punter's Captaincy - Now.

[King Elvis]

So, what do we think of Punter's Captaincy now?

He was widely bagged and criticised after we lost the Ashes.

Watching the way he led the Team this Summer, and the absolute ruthless and fanatical nature in the way he went about it was beautiful to watch - and the team was obviously playing for him.

I think he's changed a lot in the past 18 months, and I think losing the Ashes could, in five years time, be the best thing that happened to us.

Personally, I now think Ponting is the perfect man to lead us through generational change and the next 5 years.

 

[pluga_4]

punter's captaincy is second to none.

his record speaks for itself.

 

[Coin_Toss]

I rate him. He's certainly not the best captain going around, but he's improved.

Let's go through a few names who can lead the Australian Cricket Team.

Gilchrist has captained the ODI side due to the absence of Punter and he has done a good job. He's an aggressive captain by that I mean, he's always on the lookout to take wickets and he sets aggressive fields. But he will never officialy captain the Australian Cricket Team.

Some people have proclaimed Hussey would make a fine captain but I haven't seen any proof of this. His work ethic is second to none.

Clarke could be the next captain of Australia. There's something about him which I admire. He worked very hard to earn his spot back in the Test team after being punted, sets a fine example in the field, and he has the right attitude.

 

[Andre]

He's certainly improved as a captain. Much like he came back a better player after being dropped, losing the Ashes has had a similar positive effect. The only real complaint I have is his wanting to have 4 quicks in the ODI side at the expense of a true spinner (Hogg). Symonds and Clarke did a good job last night, but I think Hogg would have put the brakes on in the middle overs.

 

[just maybe]

Excellent leader of men and is determined to lead from the front, average has shot up since becoming captain.

However, he still has a lot of question marks tactically. He tries to make up for his tactical shortcomings with his batting.

I don't want Clarke as our next captain. He hasn't shown any captaincy form and I don't see why he should be given such an important job just because has has been 'anointed'. What happened to be given the captaincy on merit because you are actually good at it?

 

[Blues_Man]

Ponting certainly out captained Fleming in last nights match .
Fleming who is regarded as a great captain made a bad blunder by deferring the power plays .
Pontings field settings have been exceptional .

 

[likka]

Ponting certainly out captained Fleming in last nights match .
Fleming who is regarded as a great captain made a bad blunder by deferring the power plays .
Pontings field settings have been exceptional .

LOL, this is like a blind man judging the Archibald.

Both captains were let down badly by their bowlers... Fleming additionally let down by his fielders.

Fleming held off on the final power play until the second wicket fell, dropped catches and poor bowling prevented this. Fielders were in the right spots but NZ couldn't take the chances.

Ponting's leadership has come to the fore this summer. Agree that losing the Ashes has been the making of him as a leader and captain.

He still seems a bit tactically short when things go against him, but is really improving. Long way to go yet to get to same league as Tubby, but big improvement this summer.

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Name me one Australian captain who is regarded as great who had a crap bowling line-up.

You can't.

Nuff Said.

 

[Blues_Man]

LOL, this is like a blind man judging the Archibald.

Both captains were let down badly by their bowlers... Fleming additionally let down by his fielders.

Fleming held off on the final power play until the second wicket fell, dropped catches and poor bowling prevented this. Fielders were in the right spots but NZ couldn't take the chances.

Ponting's leadership has come to the fore this summer. Agree that losing the Ashes has been the making of him as a leader and captain.

He still seems a bit tactically short when things go against him, but is really improving. Long way to go yet to get to same league as Tubby, but big improvement this summer.

just try and respond to the post without your half arsed attempts and humour and you will be fine .

 

[davey_magik]

just try and respond to the post without your half arsed attempts and humour and you will be fine .

But he did.


Punter has definitely improved, I think the reason he struggled in 2005 was he was put under pressure to find new ways to win as the usual way (McGrath and Warne) was unavailable or wasn't working.
He's improved and although he's still no freak last night he was let down by his bowlers.

 

[King Elvis]

However, he still has a lot of question marks tactically. He tries to make up for his tactical shortcomings with his batting.

Has he made any tactical blunders this summer, or are we still letting the mistakes he made in last years Ashes cloud our judgement?

 

[Sico 17]

Ponting certainly out captained Fleming in last nights match .
Fleming who is regarded as a great captain made a bad blunder by deferring the power plays .
Pontings field settings have been exceptional .

Fleming not bowling Vettori in the power plays was a joke as well.

 

[Grimreepah]

Listening to him in interviews, he sounds a lot more confident, and he's starting to come across as someone who knows exactly what he is doing. He also seems to be trusting his instinct more with his field placings, which is a good sign.

 

[just maybe]

Has he made any tactical blunders this summer, or are we still letting the mistakes he made in last years Ashes cloud our judgement?

Plenty. Nothing outrageous, but certainly some things better opposition could have taken advantage of. He is pretty clueless when things aren't going his way, like last night. Sometimes his offensive/defensive balance is badly off.

 

[dan warna]

Plenty. Nothing outrageous, but certainly some things better opposition could have taken advantage of. He is pretty clueless when things aren't going his way, like last night. Sometimes his offensive/defensive balance is badly off.

not his fault some of his bowlers bowled like millionaires, and three catches got put down, perhaps a few more.

27 odd extrais and 3 dropped catches...very unusual and not the captains fault, basically the bowlers got really cocky and bowled some trash and the kiwis batted well.

Orams clean hitting was a sight to behold, most of the balls to him were actually quite good.

 

[just maybe]

not his fault some of his bowlers bowled like millionaires

But they mostly are...

 

[starz]

His use of the bowlers is very good now, but i wouldn't say he's innovative.
Leads by example and has one of the best records as Captains ever, can't argue with his numbers.

But having said that, he's got the team behind him that every other Captain doesn't, can't do with what you don't have.

 

[likka]

His use of the bowlers is very good now, but i wouldn't say he's innovative.
Leads by example and has one of the best records as Captains ever, can't argue with his numbers.

But having said that, he's got the team behind him that every other Captain doesn't, can't do with what you don't have.

Punter is good when plan A is working... but doesn't think on his feet too well when things start going pear shaped.

 

[gerta]

His use of the bowlers is very good now, but i wouldn't say he's innovative.
Leads by example and has one of the best records as Captains ever, can't argue with his numbers.

But having said that, he's got the team behind him that every other Captain doesn't, can't do with what you don't have.

Agree with that.. An awesome record now both as a batsman and certainly getting the results in all forms of cricket.
To me though the use of his bowlers in test matches can lack imagination. The spells seem to be pretty much by the numbers, eg each bowler is going to bowl a certain number of overs no matter how they are bowling or the particular stage in the game.

 

[Ted Ed Fred]

However, he still has a lot of question marks tactically. He tries to make up for his tactical shortcomings with his batting.

Stupidest comment I've ever heard. How exactly does that work anyway? When he's batting he thinks "gee, I better bat better than I would so people don't notice my 'tactical shortcomings'?"

 

[just maybe]

Stupidest comment I've ever heard. How exactly does that work anyway? When he's batting he thinks "gee, I better bat better than I would so people don't notice my 'tactical shortcomings'?"

It's a concept called 'responsibility'. You might like to learn about it.

How old are you?

 

[James Pask]

Utter joke how anti-Tasmanian this board is. Punter is Australia's 2nd best player of all time, but hey that won't stop a Tassie bagfest. Give it a rest guys and have some respect for how great Ricky is.

 

[tazhawk]

Well he is the best test batsman in the world.

The best ODI batsman in the world.

I think he now commands his troops and has them playing as well oiled machine and no doubt he has grown in the captaincy stakes.

He has a sensational captaincy record in both forms of the game.

 

[likka]

The best ODI batsman in the world.

Um, no he is ranked no. 8 in the ICC ODI rankings... Hussey in 1 and KP is 2.

 

[pWnd]

I rate him. He's certainly not the best captain going around, but he's improved.

Let's go through a few names who can lead the Australian Cricket Team.

Gilchrist has captained the ODI side due to the absence of Punter and he has done a good job. He's an aggressive captain by that I mean, he's always on the lookout to take wickets and he sets aggressive fields. But he will never officialy captain the Australian Cricket Team.

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gilly also captained for most of the last series (i think 3 out of 4 tests) in india. did an awesome job there, but yeah he won't get a look in unless punters injured/rested