Rate my SuperCoach team 2012

[hess]

Team 1:

Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Matt Suckling, Josh Drummond, Brian Lake, Matthew Buntine, Marty Clarke
Billie Smedts, Luke Brown

Gary Ablett jnr, Dane Swan, Jobe Watson, Michael Barlow, Brad McKenzie, Mitchell Grigg
James McDonald, Tom Mitchell

Dean Cox, Sam Jacobs
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Jonathan Brown, Allen Christensen, Darren Pfeiffer, Tommy Walsh
Dayne Zorko, Sam Rowe

Team 2:

Heath Shaw, Sam Fisher, Corey Enright, Greg Broughton, Matt Suckling, Matthew Buntine, Luke Brown
Beau Wilkes, Steve Wrigley

Gary Ablett jnr, Sam Mitchell, Jobe Watson, Michael Barlow, Stephen Clifton, Dayne Zorko
Mitchell Grigg, Sam Kerridge

Dean Cox, Trent West
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Paul Chapman, Brent Harvey, David Zaharakis, Shannon Byrnes, Darren Pfeiffer, Tommy Walsh
Sam Rowe, Tom Couch


Which one should I continue working with?

On the basis that team 1 has drummond I'd say team 2 without much greater analysis.
However, no Goddard in team 2 is a concern. At his price and the options in defense its hard to justify not selecting him. I'm not a fan of West, wouldn't touch either of Harvey or Byrnes with a 100ft barge pole.
On balance I'd run with team one but unless you're bullish on Drummond's fitness I'd tweak it to get him out of the side.

 

[hess]

Goddard, Deledio, Shaw, Suckling, Grimes, M Clarke, B Ellis, Spurr, Hombsch

Pendlebury, Murphy, Selwood, Coniglio, Clifton, Shiel, Kavanagh, Mitchell

Leunberger, Kreuzer, Giles, O

Franklin, Martin, Riewoldt, Riewoldt, Watts, D Smith, Walsh, Treloar, Zorko

Thoughts?

i have 172K in the bank so some room to move, just cant decide where....

Thanks

Spend the money on Grimes and/or one of JRoo or Watts depending on your opinions of the players..
Probably upgrade your least preferred of JRoo/Watts to a Pav/Chapman level premium based on the structure of the remaining team.

 

[hess]

Defenders
Brendon Goddard Brett Deledio Matt Suckling Dyson Heppell Brian Lake Brandon Ellis Will Sierakowski
(Luke Brown Beau Wilkes)

Midfielders
Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett, Matt Priddis, Joel Selwood, Bryce Gibbs Chad Wingard
(Kyal Horsley Elliott Kavanagh)

Rucks
Matthew Leuenberger Jonathan Giles
(Sam Rowe Orren Stephensen)

Forwards
Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Nick Riewoldt, Jed Lamb, Dayne Zorko, Adam Treloar.
(Tory Dickson, Sam Kerridge)

Another shot only my second draft. Keep getting sucked into all the puff pieces on players and trying to fit em all in Also trying not to be bomber biased.

Its a solid team but i'd probably look to tweak the balance in the mid/forward spending.
Downgrade a premium or two in the mids and spend it on removing a starting rookie from the forwards. All dependant on the NAB Cup/remaining preseason but as a general rule you'd be looking for a better balance than is in this structure unless all the standout rookies were in the forwards.

 

[ChappyUK]

Would like to know peoples thoughts on this team. Going a 3 premium mid with prem-rookies for something different.

B: Goddard, Deledio, Sucking, Heppell, Buntine, Clarke, Docerty (Smedts, Lockyer)

M: Pendlebury, Ablett, Murphy, Caddy, Wingard, Coniglio, (K Stevens, McKenzie)

R: Mumford, McIntosh (Giles, Stephenson)

F: Franklin, Goodes, Fyfe, Martin, Christensen, Saad, Ah Chee (Curran, Rowe)

 

[bomberboy0618]

Would like to know peoples thoughts on this team. Going a 3 premium mid with prem-rookies for something different.

B: Goddard, Deledio, Sucking, Heppell, Buntine, Clarke, Docerty (Smedts, Lockyer)

M: Pendlebury, Ablett, Murphy, Caddy, Wingard, Coniglio, (K Stevens, McKenzie)

R: Mumford, McIntosh (Giles, Stephenson)

F: Franklin, Goodes, Fyfe, Martin, Christensen, Saad, Ah Chee (Curran, Rowe)

I dont really like it, you are starting 5 rookies if I am right, with Clarke a bit iffy for my liking. The premiums however are awesome.
8/10.
What do people think about this team?
BB's Bombers Fanplanner squad in the Super Coach competition coached by bomber5186. Salary cap left: $49,500.

Heath Scotland, Brett Deledio, Josh Gibson, Dyson Heppell, Tony Armstrong, Brian Lake, Joshua Bootsma
Sam Docherty, Andrew McInnes

Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Michael Barlow, Patrick Dangerfield, Chad Wingard, Anthony Morabito
Tom Mitchell, Hayden Crozier

Matthew Leuenberger, Matthew Kreuzer
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Jordan Lisle, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Allen Christensen, Jason Winderlich, Jason Porplyzia
Adam Treloar, Sam Rowe

 

[Daniels]

I dont really like it, you are starting 5 rookies

What!? Me personally will be starting with around 7-8 rookies on the ground... No way am I infesting my side with a bunch of mid-rangers.

Squeeze more rookies in mate

 

[bomberboy0618]

What!? Me personally will be starting with around 7-8 rookies on the ground... No way am I infesting my side with a bunch of mid-rangers.

Squeeze more rookies in mate

Each to his own I guess. Personally I think if you have 5 then that is the limit. Any more and you are just limiting your scoring ceiling. Eventually yes you will score higher than me but you wont make the ground up in overall you lost earlier in the season.

 

[Daniels]

Each to his own I guess. Personally I think if you have 5 then that is the limit. Any more and you are just limiting your scoring ceiling. Eventually yes you will score higher than me but you wont make the ground up in overall you lost earlier in the season.

I get what ya saying mate. Only thing is the classic age old argument.

Why take a 300-400k mid-ranger that will prob average 75 from the get go, when you can take a 113k rookie that will do the same?

 

[bomberboy0618]

I get what ya saying mate. Only thing is the classic age old argument.

Why take a 300-400k mid-ranger that will prob average 75 from the get go, when you can take a 113k rookie that will do the same?

Im stacking up on midpricers for a couple of reasons. I am looking for a couple of POD's. I am also looking at it like this.
Ive got say 4-5 midpricers. If three of them average 90, then I have an extra 45 points over other people. Over a season, thats 990 points extra.
Also, only really good rookies average 75, not all. Thats my thinking anyway.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

I get what ya saying mate. Only thing is the classic age old argument.

Why take a 300-400k mid-ranger that will prob average 75 from the get go, when you can take a 113k rookie that will do the same?

This ^^^^

I am also starting about 7

 

[cotter101]

I dont really like it, you are starting 5 rookies if I am right, with Clarke a bit iffy for my liking. The premiums however are awesome.
8/10.
What do people think about this team?
BB's Bombers Fanplanner squad in the Super Coach competition coached by bomber5186. Salary cap left: $49,500.

Heath Scotland, Brett Deledio, Josh Gibson, Dyson Heppell, Tony Armstrong, Brian Lake, Joshua Bootsma
Sam Docherty, Andrew McInnes

Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Michael Barlow, Patrick Dangerfield, Chad Wingard, Anthony Morabito
Tom Mitchell, Hayden Crozier


Matthew Leuenberger, Matthew Kreuzer
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Jordan Lisle, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Allen Christensen, Jason Winderlich, Jason Porplyzia
Adam Treloar, Sam Rowe

Love the Tony Armstrong pick, Picking Brain Lake is obviously risky but you'd have to see how he goes in the NAB Cup.

I'm not a fan of the Dangerfield selection maybe replace him with Ziebull or Hayes?. Morabito should make you some cash.

I don't think Crozier will be playing much footy next year(Needs lots of work) I feel Mitchell Grigg or Tim Couch would be a better option.

Your forward line is interesting I don't mind it.

 

[bomberboy0618]

Love the Tony Armstrong pick, Picking Brain Lake is obviously risky but you'd have to see how he goes in the NAB Cup.

I'm not a fan of the Dangerfield selection maybe replace him with Ziebull or Hayes?. Morabito should make you some cash.

I don't think Crozier will be playing much footy next year(Needs lots of work) I feel Mitchell Grigg or Tim Couch would be a better option.

Your forward line is interesting I don't mind it.

Thanks mate
The rookies are just ones I picked randomly/remembered a little bit about. I picked Crozier because of the mark he took
Ill go away and have a tinker and post an updated version.
Thanks again!

 

[cotter101]

Thanks mate
The rookies are just ones I picked randomly/remembered a little bit about. I picked Crozier because of the mark he took
Ill go away and have a tinker and post an updated version.
Thanks again!

No problem

 

[bomberboy0618]

BB's Bombers Fanplanner squad in the Super Coach competition coached by bomber5186. Salary cap left: $95,600.

Heath Scotland, Brett Deledio, Josh Gibson, Dyson Heppell, Tony Armstrong, Brian Lake, Sam Docherty
Billie Smedts, Joshua Bootsma

Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Michael Barlow, Lenny Hayes, Chad Wingard, Anthony Morabito
Tom Mitchell, Mitchell Grigg

Matthew Leuenberger, Matthew Kreuzer
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Travis Cloke, Dustin Martin, Nick Riewoldt, Allen Christensen, Jason Winderlich, Jordan Lisle, Jason Porplyzia
Adam Treloar, Ahmed Saad
Thats what Ive come up with so far. really happy with it as really I only have 2 rookies on field.

 

[Daniels]

Im stacking up on midpricers for a couple of reasons. I am looking for a couple of POD's. I am also looking at it like this.
Ive got say 4-5 midpricers. If three of them average 90, then I have an extra 45 points over other people. Over a season, thats 990 points extra.
Also, only really good rookies average 75, not all. Thats my thinking anyway.

Mid-pricers = headaches. Good to go outside the square. But at same time this doesn't add up IMO. Leaving yourself with not enough premiums and too many players to upgrade and will kill trades left right and centre.

I would still prefer an 625k elite + 125k rookie on field instead of two 375k mid-pricers, but that's me.

- Probably scoring more points with premium and rookie in same time frame
- Having one more extra Captain option from start (always handy)
- Generating $$$ with rookie with plans to upgrade / downgrade upgrade later down track

If you can find this years, last years Fyfe let me know

 

[bomberboy0618]

Mid-pricers = headaches. Good to go outside the square. But at same time this doesn't add up IMO. Leaving yourself with not enough premiums and too many players to upgrade and will kill trades left right and centre.

I would still prefer an 625k elite + 125k rookie on field instead of two 375k mid-pricers, but that's me.

- Probably scoring more points with premium and rookie in same time frame
- Having one more extra Captain option from start (always handy)
- Generating $$$ with rookie with plans to upgrade / downgrade upgrade later down track

If you can find this years, last years Fyfe let me know

If one of the midpricers tur into a captain option then Ive paid less for one than you did.

 

[Daniels]

If one of the midpricers tur into a captain option then Ive paid less for one than you did.

Won't happen...

 

[LSRU]

I think the pez dispensers work pre season last year was seriously undervalued...

 

[bomberboy0618]

Won't happen...

So you dont think barlow can recreate his form? I think he can. I guess thats where we differ.

 

[Daniels]

So you dont think barlow can recreate his form? I think he can. I guess thats where we differ.

Barlow to a certain extent. Guy is a gun. I too loved his work in 2010. SC wise though I doubt he will capture form to be regarded as an elite MID keeper. Hope you can prove me wrong though mate

 

[Strahany]

Barlow to a certain extent. Guy is a gun. I too loved his work in 2010. SC wise though I doubt he will capture form to be regarded as an elite MID keeper. Hope you can prove me wrong though mate

You both have a point. I agree with Daniels on mid pricers - only include one if you have to, as a Premium/Rookie combo will be better than Mid pricer/Mid pricer combo almost every single time.

Having said that, there are many players I wouldn't put into the traditional mid pricer category, such as N.Riewoldt, Hayes, Barlow, Porps, Lake etc, because they're all premium(ish) and have had one bad year, rather than being a player who has averaged ~70 for several years. They're just like rookies - a bit riskier, but with greater reward if they come off.

 

[jockreynolds]

Nice Strahany. I've long been a guns and rookies advocate - but you do pick up the 'fallen angel' aka a Nick Riewoldt type at midprice status. I bang on about avoiding those potential 'break out' players. Its just not good percentage fantasy footy.
My middies so far are Riewoldt and Riewoldt only. Im sure that'll change over the course of the next few weeks but guns n rookies is where it will be won this year IMO

 

[Daniels]

You both have a point. I agree with Daniels on mid pricers - only include one if you have to, as a Premium/Rookie combo will be better than Mid pricer/Mid pricer combo almost every single time.

Having said that, there are many players I wouldn't put into the traditional mid pricer category, such as N.Riewoldt, Hayes, Barlow, Porps, Lake etc, because they're all premium(ish) and have had one bad year, rather than being a player who has averaged ~70 for several years. They're just like rookies - a bit riskier, but with greater reward if they come off.

Indeed. I agree. Those type of players have a slightly different "mid-pricer" category

 

[Daniels]

I bang on about avoiding those potential 'break out' players. Its just not good percentage fantasy footy.

Me too! Exactly

 

[bomberboy0618]

Me too! Exactly

While I agree with you, I sleep easier at night knowing that my team isnt vanilla, and almost a carbon copy of the rest of the competitiors.
Having said that, you are more likely to get a higher overall with guns/rookies strategy