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Preview Rd1 - Carlton vs. Richmond - 7:20PM Thurs 23rd March @ MCG - Team post #1449

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It's my annual preview time, we've tolerated some horrid JLT Series games but now we get to the real stuff!

I recall last year's pre game talk and the Tigers were aiming to be a top four side while Carlton fans had just come off a wooden spoon year (and 3 NAB Challenge losses) with little expectation of a win.

Round 1 2016 pretty much confirmed though Richmond were in for a year of pain and Carlton actually had some tricks up their sleeve. Going into 2017 Richmond will be looking for improvement and probably the slightest chance of finals while Carlton is again focusing on improvement over wins and losses. My prediction is a sloppy affair culminating in a brave effort from the Blues while the Tigers (who are a little jittery about this match) will be happy enough with a win.

LAST TIME WE MET (R1 2016) TIGERS DEF BLUES 92-83

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LINE UPS:

FB
Plowman, Rowe, White
HB Docherty, Marchbank, Simpson
C Murphy, Gibbs, Petrevski Seton
HF Lamb, Weitering, Silvagni
FF Armfield, Casboult, Pickett
R Kreuzer, Cripps, ECurnow
IC Smedts, Thomas, Curnow, Wright
EMG Macreadie, Palmer, Kerridge

OUT: Jamison, Tuohy, Buckley, Graham, Boekhorst, Walker, Everitt, Phillips
IN: Marchbank, Smedts, Petrevski Seton, Pickett, Curnow, Silvagni, Armfield, Plowman

FB Grimes, Rance, McIntosh
HB Ellis, Astbury, Houli
C Caddy, Cotchin, Grigg
HF Edwards, Griffiths, Butler
FF Rioli, Riewoldt, Lloyd
R Nankervis, Martin, Prestia
IC Conca, Castagna, Hunt, Vlastuin
EMG Maric, Lambert, Miles

MATCH UPS AND GAME STYLE

Alex Rance - won the game for the Tigers last year, he's a one man show back there and I worry our inexperienced forwards will allow him to not only get to every contest and spoil but to rebound just as good. He's seriously their best weapon and destroyed us last year.

Sam Lloyd - *shudders* I remember, at least Lambert is gone. Nonetheless the Richmond smaller brigade will present a challenge to our newish look defense. I have Smedts on the bench and expect he'll rotate back and mid as Weitering goes back and forward.

Cripps, Murphy, Gibbs vs. Martin, Prestia, Cotchin: Going to be a tough battle - neither midfield works very well when they don't have it first so lucky for us we have Patty Cripps. Murphy and Gibbs usually take it up a notch come season proper so I'm expecting bigger things from them. As much as Prestia is the prized recruit I worry the most about Martin, do your thing Ed Curnow (though it would be nice to totally shut Cotchin or Prestia out for the lolz).

Casboult & Kerridge - Seems they're a necessary evil, heck Daisy might get a run too...all I ask is for them to somewhat resemble footballers and not be a massive headcase. Casboult has lost games for us against Richmond, I hope his dopey brain remembers it while he's trying to compute *WALK STRAIGHT* *DROP BALL STRAIGHT*

Ideally I'd have had Petrevski-Seton, Sheehan, Sumner and Macreadie in but I think they'll play a bit later in the early weeks. Sheehan instead of Smedts would give me a bit more comfort in the medium back defensive stuff while I'm yearning for the day I the kids push out some players who I can't bear to watch in the Navy Blue anymore.

Both teams play a similar Hawthorn branch of football though the Tigers are a bit more direct than us with more senior players. They're probably less well drilled than us and I think Bolton is far and away a better coach. For that reason I see it going close - Tigers by 4 points (Levi kick after the siren)
 
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My hope for Rd One:

FB Smedts Weitering Plowman
HB Docherty Marchbank Sheehan
C Gibbs Cripps Simpson
HF Wright Rowe Charlie
FF Silvagni Jaksch Pickett
R Kreuzer Curnow Murphy
IC Cuningham Palmer Polson Kerridge
EMG Macreadie Fisher McKay

Keen to get more kids in but will take time. Looking forward to seeing Emergencies plus SPS LeBois & Williamson play before to long
 

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FB Smedts Weitering Plowman
HB Docherty Marchbank Simpson
C Gibbs Cripps Cuningham
HF Wright C.Curnow White
FF J.Silvagni Casboult Pickett
R Kreuzer E.Curnow Murphy
IC Thomas Rowe Polson Kerridge

Get SPS / Sheehan into this side as soon as fit.
 
Probably team

B: Plowman Rowe White
HB: Simpson Marchbank Docherty
C: C. Curnow Cripps E. Curnow
HF: Smedts Weitering Silvagni
F: Wright Casboult Pickett
OB: Kreuzer Murphy Gibbs
IC: Kerridge Thomas Petrevski-Seton Palmer
EM: Armfield Sheehan Cuningham

Close
Buckley - Getting injured didn't help
McKay - Just didn't grab his opportunity. Would like to see him ruck and push for Casboult's spot
Lamb - puts in effort and MC seem to rate him
Jaksch - been kicking goals in the VFL practice games.
Armfield - Probably closes to playing.
Macreadie - showed some good form but still light and wasn't given a go in the last JLT
Cuningham - Going ok, just not setting the world on fire.
Graham - backup midfielder behind Kerridge and Wright.
Sheehan - Showing some real strong form in the VFL, there is a spot in the backline
A Silvagni - Can play but may not be required yet.
Lebois - Shown some real xfactor.
Fisher - has something but still too raw.

Richmond are beatable but we need to win the midfield battle which may prove a little more difficult than expected. Need a big game from our big three Murphy, Gibbs and Cripps. Need to be smart with our kicks, can't be just kicking it forward blindly or Rance will have a day out.

Martin, Cotchin, Rance, Ellis, Riewoldt and Prestia are their prime movers. Rioli for mine is a bit of a darkhorse to have a day out against us. White to Martin, Ellis and Cotchin one on one, Prestia and Curnow and a good team defence should sort Riewoldt. Kerridge a possibility to perform a defensive role as well. Murphy and Gibbs to go one on one with Ellis and Cotchin. Rance you take out by being discipline with your kicking and making sure you look and kick to advantage. He will likely play on Casboult and look to run off him and out do him with agility, Casboult is poor at bringing the ball to ground when the kick isn't very good.
 
Worth noting the Tigers will probably only go with Riewoldt and Griffiths/Nankervis as tall forwards. Plowman is a good match for Cotchin/Martin when they rest there so maybe Weiters gets some significant time forward.
 
B: Plowman, Marchbank, Rowe
HB: Simpson, Weitering, Docherty
C: Murphy, Gibbs, Cuningham
HF: Wright, C.Curnow, Armfield
F: Pickett, Casboult, J. Silvagni
Foll: Kreuzer, Cripps, E. Curnow

IC: ???
 
I am enjoying watching the side play Boltons whole of team and whole of field game style. Pressure was very good against Fremantle - will need to be more sustained in true game - I am sure that some players will lift for the challenge - but equally sure that too many aren't skilled enough to execute consistently for 4 quarters.

If Carlton win this one- the Tuggers are truly awful and doomed.
 

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Realistically Tigers are more developed than us since we're only in year 2 of a rebuild, so they should win this game.

The additions of Caddy & Prestia actually improves their team quite a bit, on paper at least. Their midfield does look quite strong now.

I expect a similar game to last year, where we take it up to them but with so many new faces, make some really bad turnover errors (like against Freo) that gifts Tigers a few goals and ultimately the win.
 
Worth noting the Tigers will probably only go with Riewoldt and Griffiths/Nankervis as tall forwards. Plowman is a good match for Cotchin/Martin when they rest there so maybe Weiters gets some significant time forward.

It makes me think Weitering on Reiwoldt and Rowe up forward. Weiters is the best match up for Reiwoldt and there is no real match up for Rowe.
 

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It makes me think Weitering on Reiwoldt and Rowe up forward. Weiters is the best match up for Reiwoldt and there is no real match up for Rowe.
Rowe and Cas just don't lead high up enough. Weitering was leading up all the way to the wing, was great to see. He's also infinitely better between the ears and at ground level.

Bolts says it's better for his development to stay back but he's already such a mature footballer I would have him as a main forward while Rowe is still playing. In time hopefully Macreadie can bulk up enough to take over.
 
Rowe and Cas just don't lead high up enough. Weitering was leading up all the way to the wing, was great to see. He's also infinitely better between the ears and at ground level.

I agree but it feels like we are trying get Weitering to answer all our problems. Build our best defence first, the forward line will take time to develop and at the moment we just have to go with what we have. The sooner we can play McKay Jaksch Silvagni Charlie with SPS Pickett LeBois and mids the better.
 
Why are people picking Thomas? Even in the pre season when games are a bit slower and less pressure he has struggled to keep up. Game has gone past him
I just pray we aren't dumb enough to play him enough this year so he triggers his 5th year.
 
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