Player Watch Reef McInnes

[Jen2310]

Rockin a mullet, nice.

He even had that recently, but looks like the new pic from yesterday he has cut his hair..

 

[Lip Gallagher]

He even had that recently, but looks like the new pic from yesterday he has cut his hair..

WAP lol, bring back the mullet!!

 

[Jen2310]

WAP lol, bring back the mullet!!

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[Lip Gallagher]

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Looks like a clean cut law abiding citizen, can't have him going into the draft looking like that, needs to spend a weekend with Swanny and get inked up at the very least.

 

[TradeDraft]

rankings is one thing. Where they get bidded on and drafted is another.

Yes but shows that some people Rate him a Top 10 Pick and a Bid Might Come and We will Match as he is Rated that High IF Bid Comes

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If a bid comes high and we have to spend a pick we don’t want to spend to match him..... then that’s the price we have to pay for getting rubbish trades done for Treloar Stephenson and Phillips.

 

[Jen2310]

i'm looking at it this way. A team isn't bidding on a player who likely would need a season, or half a season in the VFL because he has barely played much minutes in the midfield. Especially if you're picking him over the likes of Will Phillips, Archie Perkins and the like.
So would you really bid on a player in the top 10 when he would need development? I'm not so sure.

Reef's best position may be the midfield, but top 10 picks are those expected to play right away. He won't. He needs experience in that area at a higher level than some school footy.

This is why I believe he won't go as high as the media are trying to sell us.

 

[TradeDraft]

i'm looking at it this way. A team isn't bidding on a player who likely would need a season, or half a season in the VFL because he has barely played much minutes in the midfield. Especially if you're picking him over the likes of Will Phillips, Archie Perkins and the like.
So would you really bid on a player in the top 10 when he would need development? I'm not so sure.

Reef's best position may be the midfield, but top 10 picks are those expected to play right away. He won't. He needs experience in that area at a higher level than some school footy.

This is why I believe he won't go as high as the media are trying to sell us.

How do you know he won't play RD 1 in 2021?

 

[Jen2310]

How do you know he won't play RD 1 in 2021?

because he is young. Hasn't played in over 12 months and hasn't had much exposure in the area he will be best at. Unless he gets played as a forward or defender..

 

[cakewalk06]

How do you know he won't play RD 1 in 2021?

Hi Dave I think Jen outlined the reasons. He needs footy and is very young and skinny. He’s not a widely exposed player and gets more airtime than he should cos he is linked to pies. Plus he has a memorable name

 

[Leviathan Pie]

If a bid comes high and we have to spend a pick we don’t want to spend to match him..... then that’s the price we have to pay for getting rubbish trades done for Treloar Stephenson and Phillips.

Or we just don't pick him.

 

[TradeDraft]

because he is young. Hasn't played in over 12 months and hasn't had much exposure in the area he will be best at. Unless he gets played as a forward or defender..

I can see him Playing Forward as got Stuff All up there

 

[TradeDraft]

Hi Dave I think Jen outlined the reasons. He needs footy and is very young and skinny. He’s not a widely exposed player and gets more airtime than he should cos he is linked to pies. Plus he has a memorable name

That be the same of just about all the Vic Draftees as they not played footy in about a Year

 

[Jen2310]

Hi Dave I think Jen outlined the reasons. He needs footy and is very young and skinny. He’s not a widely exposed player and gets more airtime than he should cos he is linked to pies. Plus he has a memorable name

And unless he is linked to you, surely you don't bid on a player within the top 10 you don't expect to play for a while. Early picks are used for ready made players.

So I'm tending to think these scare tactics about an early bid, will be just that. Attempt for us to make some sort of deal to get in front of a bid. In realistic terms, around pick 15-16 would be more likely.

 

[Jen2310]

That be the same of just about all the Vic Draftees as they not played footy in about a Year

Yes, but when they did play last year, the other draftees have had more exposure and are more highly rated because of it.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Or we just don't pick him.

That option is there too but that doesn’t make the player trades any better.

If we’d got better value for those trades ( eg a top ten pick for Treloar) then the dilemma of “match or don’t match” is significantly reduced.

 

[Jen2310]

Or we just don't pick him.

That would go down well.
One of our highly rated academy prospect in years that has everything we are lacking, and we pass in a compromised draft because we didn't want to spend the points even though we lost 12 players...

 

[sr36]

i'm looking at it this way. A team isn't bidding on a player who likely would need a season, or half a season in the VFL because he has barely played much minutes in the midfield. Especially if you're picking him over the likes of Will Phillips, Archie Perkins and the like.
So would you really bid on a player in the top 10 when he would need development? I'm not so sure.

Reef's best position may be the midfield, but top 10 picks are those expected to play right away. He won't. He needs experience in that area at a higher level than some school footy.

This is why I believe he won't go as high as the media are trying to sell us.

Wouldn't you assume that most of them will need at least half a season in the VFL?

 

[Jen2310]

Wouldn't you assume that most of them will need at least half a season in the VFL?

Some maybe, but the top talent I think could play right away, just would need a pre-season
But some more than others I imagine

 

[Copeland]

More you Read of Reef the Better he Sounds - Not Good for us Though

But if want him will we get him, other clubs dont have this unique opportunity.

 

[TradeDraft]

And unless he is linked to you, surely you don't bid on a player within the top 10 you don't expect to play for a while. Early picks are used for ready made players.

So I'm tending to think these scare tactics about an early bid, will be just that. Attempt for us to make some sort of deal to get in front of a bid. In realistic terms, around pick 15-16 would be more likely.

Then going on that we might Pass on Reef IF Essendon make a Early Bid

 

[Jen2310]

Then going on that we might Pass on Reef IF Essendon make a Early Bid

But my point is, that's why I don't think Essendon will bid. Those kids in the top 10 shouldn't need as much development as reef will need. This is why Essendon will go with someone like Perkins, Phillips and maybe one of the talls (Cox/Reid, whomever, or Thithorpe if he slips through)

What was the highest an academy kid in recent years has been bidded on? Tom Green

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Tom Green

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

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11.5

3star

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4.3

2star

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7.3

5star

M

1.8

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T

2.3

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CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

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7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

was around pick 9/10 last year, when he was rated in the top 3-5 rankings wise, in a strong draft

 

[Leviathan Pie]

That would go down well.
One of our highly rated academy prospect in years that has everything we are lacking, and we pass in a compromised draft because we didn't want to spend the points even though we lost 12 players...

Emotional response.

We don't owe him anything.

 

[Jen2310]

Emotional response.

We don't owe him anything.

No, we don't. But why wouldn't you want him? Most versatile player in the draft. He is certainly worth it.

 

[Scodog10]

i'm looking at it this way. A team isn't bidding on a player who likely would need a season, or half a season in the VFL because he has barely played much minutes in the midfield. Especially if you're picking him over the likes of Will Phillips, Archie Perkins and the like.
So would you really bid on a player in the top 10 when he would need development? I'm not so sure.

Reef's best position may be the midfield, but top 10 picks are those expected to play right away. He won't. He needs experience in that area at a higher level than some school footy.

This is why I believe he won't go as high as the media are trying to sell us.

If I think he’s in the best 10 players in this draft it’s an absolute no brainer that I place a bid.

Let’s compare the pair Jaidyn Stephenson

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Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

v Brandon Starcevich

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Brandon Starcevich

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

in 2017 both were drafted in the first round. One blitzed in the first season and has stagnated whilst the other has been a slow burn who’s now a permanent fixture of the back 6 for a team that finished 2020 in 2nd. Drafting with a focus on the here and now is fraught with danger. Although I’m all for it if it means clubs are silly enough to pass on the likes of Reid and Cox who won’t do much in 2021.

It feels a bit like your trying to convince yourself that a club shouldn’t bid on Reef that early when ultimately it’s out of our control. My take on it is that all evidence points to us expecting a bid after our first two picks.