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disgruntled goat

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HAVING had hours now to calm down and reflect on today's frustation and disappointment, I think there's a lot of good things to discuss about our draw in the context of a very interesting first round.

First, in specific comparisons with the last time we played Melbourne, we've improved almost 80 points, we didn't lose again on the MCG (in fact, we really should've won) and we were more than competitive against one of the "hot" young teams in the AFL. All that with a defence that is still very unsettled and inexperienced, with a ruckman still finding fitness and having to juggle our forward line to adapt to the new substitie rules.

Also, we are notorious first round losers, but not this year.

I have a strong feeling today's draw will end up being a good result as we get further into the season and, as they say in racing, this might be a good form reference.

But looking at several other teams: St Kilda has been talked about as definite top four, yet the Saints lost a very ugly game and again exposed serious deficiencies in their style, a point even their coach has conceded.

The Hawks have been the "spruik" team through the preseason, again. So much talk of putting two disappointing seasons behind them and staking a claim for top four and flag contention, they blow a game they led by five goals. Admittedly, this also might be a strong form reference game, and Adelaide should be a legitimate finals team, but there's no doubt Hawthorn will be very disappointed to have come home without the points.

The Bulldogs, similarly talked up as one of the genuine challengers to Collingwood, got blown off the park by a team I am still yet to be convinced by (although my theories will be tested next Sunday). The Essendon thumping says more about the Dogs than the Dons as far as I'm concerned at the moment. They have so much to prove, and should have been primed to go on with what seemed a reasonable start to today's game, but were flogged.

North Melbourne was disappointing. They had to travel to Perth but no matter how you look at it, not getting over one of the wooden spoon favourites will be a bitter disappointment for a team once again talking itself up as a finals contender.

Carlton won but erven the Blues' most one-eyed supporters will be taking only very nervous comfort out of the victory over a Richmond team that all but had them done.

Next week's round throws up several suddenly important games. St Kilda v Richmond means one of those teams will be 0-2 (no big deal if it's the Tigers but a serious worry if it's Saints); North v Collingwood (the Roos will not be happy staring at 0-2); Gold Coast v Carlton at the Gabba (no pressure, Blues, none at all against a team desperate to make a big first impression); Hawks v Melbourne (the Demons finished big against us and will be very dangerous for a Hawthorn team also dreading an 0-2 start), and finally; Sydney v Essendon. This is a statement game for the Bombers, attempting to win on the road for a 2-0 start, but if we can improve just a bit in several areas we're a very big show of winning, and again, further down the track a win over Essendon following a draw with the Dees might look a lot better than when the season draw first came out.

Yes, it's very early days, but we might just be able to leave our traditional "early daze" behind.
 
I completely agree about the Dogs-Bombers game, think it says more about the Dogs... but also shows the improvement from the Bombers.

And about our own team, you can almost name our 'oldies' who played today on one hand: Shaw, Mattner, Richards, Goodes, O'Keefe, Bolton. That leaves 16/22 players who are essentially 'youth', and yes, as you said, a very unsettled defence that showed its inexperience in the last bit of the match with all the marks they allowed Melbourne.

Also, consider that Melbourne has one of the hottest midfields going around, and we dominated it for much of the first half and bit of the third quarter.

Not the end of the world people think it is, and could be a game-breaker come late season and the need for good percentage.
 
Good summation, it's not panic stations at all and I really didn't think we'd get any points out of that game, especially during the final quater.

We were missing Malceski, Kennelly and Roberts-Thompson from our starting back 6 and then you have TDL, Bird and even Pyke who could easily be in our starting 22 when they're all fit. A lanky 2nd gamer was making us proud as a focal point up forward next to Goodes and a skinny Aboriginal boy who most of us hadn't heard of 18 months ago was burning up the MCG with his pace.

We've had some really big changes to our playing list since 2008 and we have a significantly different starting 22 to what we had back then, but we look as strong as ever and we're on the way back to seriously challenging again in my opinion.

Just on next week, as good as the Bombers were today, I'd be disappointed if we couldn't get over the line at home on Sunday.
 
I completely agree about the Dogs-Bombers game, think it says more about the Dogs... but also shows the improvement from the Bombers.

And about our own team, you can almost name our 'oldies' who played today on one hand: Shaw, Mattner, Richards, Goodes, O'Keefe, Bolton. That leaves 16/22 players who are essentially 'youth', and yes, as you said, a very unsettled defence that showed its inexperience in the last bit of the match with all the marks they allowed Melbourne.

Also, consider that Melbourne has one of the hottest midfields going around, and we dominated it for much of the first half and bit of the third quarter.

Not the end of the world people think it is, and could be a game-breaker come late season and the need for good percentage.

Bevan might be flattered, not to mention surprised, you've included him in the youthful 16, but I generally see your point.
 

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To be honest, I'm not convinced after today performance. The essendon match will be as much a statement game for us as it is for them.

It's still early days yet and there's a lot of improvement to come but if we don't sort things out quickly we could find ourselves behind the 8 ball. Our forward line is a bit of a worry, and I won't be counting on bradshaw to be our saviour. Our backline is a bit of a concern as well, with mal facing an extended period on the sidelines and kennel still in doubt we only have lrt coming back, and even then he'll be underdone, so while they're important outs for us we really need to be able to rely on the guys we have out there at the moment. If they don't step up we could find ourselves in a hole before we know it.

Perhaps I'm being extremely pessimistic, I just expected more from our guys to suggest that we'd be a threat this year, I just hope we get over essendon and kick start our season. Our next game is a real danger game as were coming up against an essendon team that fielded a strong side during nab and have hit the h&a season running while we're still finding our feet
 
Good summation, it's not panic stations at all and I really didn't think we'd get any points out of that game, especially during the final quater.

We were missing Malceski, Kennelly and Roberts-Thompson from our starting back 6 and then you have TDL, Bird and even Pyke who could easily be in our starting 22 when they're all fit. A lanky 2nd gamer was making us proud as a focal point up forward next to Goodes and a skinny Aboriginal boy who most of us hadn't heard of 18 months ago was burning up the MCG with his pace.

We've had some really big changes to our playing list since 2008 and we have a significantly different starting 22 to what we had back then, but we look as strong as ever and we're on the way back to seriously challenging again in my opinion.

Just on next week, as good as the Bombers were today, I'd be disappointed if we couldn't get over the line at home on Sunday.

Right at this moment, I believe we will beat the Bombers.

Today was not disappointing if you simply take on face value the result compared with the last time we played Melbourne at the MCG.
 

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