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for what it's worth, I've never heard anyone refer to either american or canadian football as 'footy.' in my mind, 'footy' is the aussie game.
Rename 'Australian Rules Football' please.
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It could be worse. Not many people have a negative image of Australia. I'd say it's quite a romanticized view, in fact.
bloody hell you again!
Rednecknow
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Hey,
Havent been here in ages, but thought i would chip in.
This subject comes up a lot over here. There are even clubs here that are talking about taking the name "footy" out of all their clubs information areas. Basically its been said the word is too childish in nature. As in lets play "footsie"
I see their point to the uneducated. I never use the word when talking to someone new about the sport. I just use 'Aussie Rules". Often I even leave off the word 'football' as that just confuses people that it 'must be like American Football then'. Really the culture here is very narrowly focused on the big four. American Football, Baseball and to a lesser extent Basketball and Ice Hockey, they take up most of the chat at a function or bar.
But no one hardly plays, they just watch. Guys are more likely to play Softball than baseball and flagfootball or kickball. (Dont ask me about that last one, its insidiously for the braindead)
Soccer is huge but mainly focused on kids, the moms like it, its non contact, they can walk the dog while Johnny runs around for an hour and it only costs $250-$400 a term to join a coached team!!! Great. For adults there are more co-ed teams in my area than single sex ones. And they aint really many of them.
The one thing I have resigned to, sports development is very different here. School based systems through High School then College scholarships product 99.9 % of the elite sports people. Dont quote me on those figures but thats how it looks to me after nearly 10 years here.
Its a going to be a long long road for the game here.
Havent been here in ages, but thought i would chip in.
This subject comes up a lot over here. There are even clubs here that are talking about taking the name "footy" out of all their clubs information areas. Basically its been said the word is too childish in nature. As in lets play "footsie"
I see their point to the uneducated. I never use the word when talking to someone new about the sport. I just use 'Aussie Rules". Often I even leave off the word 'football' as that just confuses people that it 'must be like American Football then'. Really the culture here is very narrowly focused on the big four. American Football, Baseball and to a lesser extent Basketball and Ice Hockey, they take up most of the chat at a function or bar.
But no one hardly plays, they just watch. Guys are more likely to play Softball than baseball and flagfootball or kickball. (Dont ask me about that last one, its insidiously for the braindead)
Soccer is huge but mainly focused on kids, the moms like it, its non contact, they can walk the dog while Johnny runs around for an hour and it only costs $250-$400 a term to join a coached team!!! Great. For adults there are more co-ed teams in my area than single sex ones. And they aint really many of them.
The one thing I have resigned to, sports development is very different here. School based systems through High School then College scholarships product 99.9 % of the elite sports people. Dont quote me on those figures but thats how it looks to me after nearly 10 years here.
Its a going to be a long long road for the game here.
I've had that exact thought for some years. Short. Easy, at least some (if oblique) recognition of its Autralian heritage - but not too obvious.
Credit to Paddy Mac for getting it on-line before me.
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"flying high" and "highball" , I've heard of those .
Goosesweden
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<o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" http:="" www.bigfooty.com="" forum="" images="" smilies="" redface.gif="" border="0" alt="" title="Embarrassment" smilieid="3" class="inlineimg"></o:smarttagtype>Format and the name Australian Rules football<o></o>><o></o>
First of all I’m very glad to have found a social, fun community together with a fantastic sport.<o></o><o></o>
I’m just curious do the majority of footy fans and players mind the format or size of the game played? Just for my curiosity new to the game.<o>
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Because I believe that all players or any player, play footy for one reason first of all for the fun and love of the game. The name is accepted so far. Millions and all individual reasons follow but this could be the most important. We all choose our own word or description of the game, footy, Aussie Football, Aussie Rules Football or Aussie touch and so on.<o>></o>><o></o>
It’s also vital when following this discussion what we should display as the sport. I don’t care much for any sport that can only show one face or style of the sport. Many board games can be like that a closed and regulated format. We do sports.<o></o>
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I honestly don’t know much about the AFL to have an opinion. But most sports use their professional league to carry and display all or most of what’s good about that sport.<o></o>
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That’s a huge mistake as I see it. If you want to market hockey, lacrosse and American football as full contact and physical sports. You’ll exclude loads of people. I’d like the sport to attract all or as many as possible. It might not be 18 men tackle football but some play 14, some 9 some play 6 and so on. Hockeys no-contact version is named Floorball goofy name, silly yes but they have 100000 registered players and actual statistical numbers prove that an additional 400000 play it in Sweden alone. Maybe as an result of its mother sport ice hockey movement toward professionalism and what borders to mad pshycial training.<o></o>
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If you do the same exploring the word Australian Rules Football. It only excludes people when, if or because <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1>lace w:st="on">Australia</st1>lace></st1:country-region> representing something we don’t like. In my small country we don’t know much about Australia that makes us become negative and concerned, some people travel but far from all and their's nothing to get agitated about. Except the risk which we’re all aware of that the sport is made for Aussie and not for my society of Swede and all it’s citizens. We're working on it and it's going great.<o></o>
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In our sport if you display and market which you do in Australia, auskick, women/girls sports, school programs, Aussie Touch, AFL and other leagues. Yes then you’ll succeed in given more faces to the game and most important many more names. Name calling has never bothered me and there’re more important issues to discuss. But I can only speak for my small part of the northern hemisphere<o></o>
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First of all I’m very glad to have found a social, fun community together with a fantastic sport.<o></o><o></o>
I’m just curious do the majority of footy fans and players mind the format or size of the game played? Just for my curiosity new to the game.<o>
></o>><o></o>Because I believe that all players or any player, play footy for one reason first of all for the fun and love of the game. The name is accepted so far. Millions and all individual reasons follow but this could be the most important. We all choose our own word or description of the game, footy, Aussie Football, Aussie Rules Football or Aussie touch and so on.<o>
></o>><o></o>It’s also vital when following this discussion what we should display as the sport. I don’t care much for any sport that can only show one face or style of the sport. Many board games can be like that a closed and regulated format. We do sports.<o></o>
<o></o>
I honestly don’t know much about the AFL to have an opinion. But most sports use their professional league to carry and display all or most of what’s good about that sport.<o></o>
<o></o>
That’s a huge mistake as I see it. If you want to market hockey, lacrosse and American football as full contact and physical sports. You’ll exclude loads of people. I’d like the sport to attract all or as many as possible. It might not be 18 men tackle football but some play 14, some 9 some play 6 and so on. Hockeys no-contact version is named Floorball goofy name, silly yes but they have 100000 registered players and actual statistical numbers prove that an additional 400000 play it in Sweden alone. Maybe as an result of its mother sport ice hockey movement toward professionalism and what borders to mad pshycial training.<o></o>
<o></o>
If you do the same exploring the word Australian Rules Football. It only excludes people when, if or because <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1>
lace w:st="on">Australia</st1>lace></st1:country-region> representing something we don’t like. In my small country we don’t know much about Australia that makes us become negative and concerned, some people travel but far from all and their's nothing to get agitated about. Except the risk which we’re all aware of that the sport is made for Aussie and not for my society of Swede and all it’s citizens. We're working on it and it's going great.<o></o><o></o>
In our sport if you display and market which you do in Australia, auskick, women/girls sports, school programs, Aussie Touch, AFL and other leagues. Yes then you’ll succeed in given more faces to the game and most important many more names. Name calling has never bothered me and there’re more important issues to discuss. But I can only speak for my small part of the northern hemisphere<o></o>
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This is definitely a hurdle for North America. I know Australians love to make every word into a diminutive (bikie, maccas, arvo) and obviously I don't have a problem with it, but it does have a very childish connotation on this continent. "Footy" would not sell the sport well.
Chick Nailer
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This might be a bit controverstial for a first post but your football was exported on prison ships whay back when your Country was being created (as we know it now populous wise). It is in fact Gaelic football played with a ball that someone on the ship had slept on on the way over. The reason for the posts being vertical rather than 2 vertical and one horizontal is because the guys couldn't get the horizontal bar to balance on the verticals er go they slapped up four standy uppies instead.
I suggest clatter ball or prsion rules possibly.
I suggest clatter ball or prsion rules possibly.
lol.
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lol. are you the old guy from the bigpond ads? they built the great wall of china to keep the rabbits out
1. so the story goes 'soccer' comes from an englishman way back when saying it as slang from the sports full title which is ""association football". there wasnt some UEFA roundtable where everyone sat around saying ""uh-oh football is too easily confused with other footballs let come up with a different name"".
2. football/soccer has succeeded because it is a very simple sport that is extremely easy to learn, pickup and play. it is also awesome to play and watch contrary to what bogans who struggle with the offside rule think..
it also has nothing to do with ignoring englands role in codifying and exporting it.. ac milan has an english flag in their crest and were originally a cricket club. it has also retained the anglocised (sp?) spelling of 'milan'. fc barcelona also has the english flag in its crest and athletic bilbao took sunderlands colours and retain the anglocised 'athletic' and not 'atletico'. there are heaps and heaps of example's of this world wide.
3. football is called ''calcio'' in italy. not piedarist or whatever you called it lol. spain calls it 'futbol''.
smasha
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Football is football,Aussie Rules is Footy and RL should be called Handy.
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Aerial Ping Pong?
Male Netball?
But, i know what the OP means. A kind of nickname for the game to distinguish it on the international scene. Like Gridiron, because the field resembles one. So just have to think of a catchy name.....
Male Netball?
But, i know what the OP means. A kind of nickname for the game to distinguish it on the international scene. Like Gridiron, because the field resembles one. So just have to think of a catchy name.....
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Marngrook? Even if it isn't strictly that.
Or, some modern BS made-up name like, "Chasings"
Or, some modern BS made-up name like, "Chasings"
you are all thinking way to much. The game should simply be just called Aussie Rules. Everyone all over the world will know what sport they are talking about. The slang represents the fun loving, laid back, spirit of the australian people.
Thats why so many people around the world are taking up football, it represents Australia, "the lucky country" where everyone is equal.
No matter what nation you come from, language you speak, what sex you are, what you look like. Everyone is equal on that footy field.
That is how we should present our football to the other countries, not some fancy name to promote business. But a chance for everyone to forget their problems, become one with their team and all go out have fun and have a kick on the field.
Thats why so many people around the world are taking up football, it represents Australia, "the lucky country" where everyone is equal.
No matter what nation you come from, language you speak, what sex you are, what you look like. Everyone is equal on that footy field.
That is how we should present our football to the other countries, not some fancy name to promote business. But a chance for everyone to forget their problems, become one with their team and all go out have fun and have a kick on the field.
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Cambridge rules football played in an association and became "soccer" .
Rugby rules football played in a union and became known as "union" .
13-a-side rugby was played in a league and became known as "league" .
Australian Football played in a nation league became marketed as "AFL".
Australian Rules Football is a misnomer because their are no rules in Australian Football (we suspected that all along) there are only laws .
Australian Laws Football doesn't have the same ring .
It gets confusing when :
Association Football is played in a league .
Union Football is played in a league or an association .
"league" is played at less than league level do they play "reserve".
Any reserve standard footballer becomes a league player.
A player playing AFL doesn't play in the AFL .
So that only leaves football played in a federation, Federation Football Series.
Shortened to FFS , it does have certain ring to it .
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All codes are called the generic "football". In AR it's just as prevalent as Soccer, but it's not a name that distinguishes it from any other "football".
Gridiron, Soccer, Rugby, League. Names that distinguish.
Gridiron purely due to the field itself.
So you could look at that for AR....using the word oval.
Or you could also look at a distinguishing feature of the game and use that....ie, marks and marking.
So maybe that could be the core word used.
Dunno what exactly, but that's a start.
Gridiron, Soccer, Rugby, League. Names that distinguish.
Gridiron purely due to the field itself.
So you could look at that for AR....using the word oval.
Or you could also look at a distinguishing feature of the game and use that....ie, marks and marking.
So maybe that could be the core word used.
Dunno what exactly, but that's a start.
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Afrikaans, and it would be voetbal.
Already popularly used to refer to soccer though.
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Australian Football doesnt have a nickname, which is the point of this thread.
Eg, American Football has "gridiron".
Eg, American Football has "gridiron".
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The colloquial name for Australian Football is Australian Rules Football .
Australian Football is now marketed as "AFL" .
But if you're after a nickname I'd suggest "Awesome" .
e.g. Let's play some Awesome football or play something Awesome .
Hey what's that game you're playing dude - it's Awesome (comes the reply) .
Our team played Awesome today .
I played Awesome today .
I was an Awesome player today .
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Truely awesome
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well, it is awesome. Back in the 19th century it was sometimes called "Victorian Rules" or "Australasian Rules", which has an exotic ring to it. I'd stick with "Australian Football". The Americans, Canadians and Irish don't seem to mind to have their games called "American Football", "Canadian Football" or "Gaelic Football".Or maybe you could follow the "Association Football - soccer", "Rugby Football - rugger" example and rename it "Ausser". But that'd be silly...
Soccer is called Soccer in England it wasn't named that to prevent confusion because they already had Football and it looked more like Rugby in those days
I wonder weather Australian Rules isn't gaining the popularity and growth that it has over past 10 or so year in spite of its name or maybe because of it, have you thought about that and there is no doubt that the game has had a massive growth in partisipation and popularity world wide
Marn Grook
I wonder weather Australian Rules isn't gaining the popularity and growth that it has over past 10 or so year in spite of its name or maybe because of it, have you thought about that and there is no doubt that the game has had a massive growth in partisipation and popularity world wide
Marn Grook
