Why? That only creates a shortage of ruckmen on our list. I guess you cover this in your 3rd point, but until that up and coming ruckman is guaranteed I see no value in just getting rid of Marsh. If a good trade deal comes along, sure, but no point just delisting him.
Mattner has to stay. He's shown promise and we should see through his development. And besides, he's played too few matches for other clubs to see much value in him. Crowell did a good job this year and can play forward and back too. I'd be sad to see any of them go.
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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Whilst everyone is tradeable for the right price, I have commented on the players who I consider as possibility of changing clubs:
Angwin - trade or delist
Bassett
Beinke - retired
Bickley
Biglands
Bode
Burton
Clarke
Crowell - tradeable
Doughty - tradeable
Edwards
Finnin
Fitzgerald
Gallagher - tradeable
Goodwin
Handby - tradeable
Hart
Hentschel
Hewitt - tradeable
John****
K. Johnson - going
Ladhams
Marsh - trade or delist
Massie
McGregor
McLeod
Nelson - trade or delist
Perrie - tradeable
Reilly
Ricciuto
Schell - can't delist, so try & trade
Schuback
Shir - tradeable
Shirley - trade or delist
Skipworth
Smart
Smith
Stenglein
Stevens
Welsh
Rookies
Bock
Mattner - upgrade to full list
Rutten - upgrade to full list
Thomas
) but i really think you'd struggle to trade Handby (not proven at all, no trade value & why would you trade him?), Hewitt (my advice is to probably delist him, again no trade value), Nelson (doubt anyone would want him, a delist/keep as backup option), Perrie (isn't tradeable, but is delistable), Schell (trade hehehehe), Shir & Shirley (doubt you would get anything in return, i'd probably keep at least one if not both) & Skipworth (would delist). Would also take anything for Angwin &/or Marsh (although if you don't get any talls you probably should keep Marsh) and probably think Fitzgerald would be under pressure but i guess you might as well keep him for one more year.
If we can't trade Marsh, he must be delisted. I would prefer to ruck Hewitt, Perrie or even Schell (well may be that's pushing it). We should be looking to trade for a ruck who can assist if either Biglands or Clarke are injured & a draft another young one. Also, we can put someone else on the rookie list.
Reckon Handby, Hewitt, Perrie & Shir would have some trade value ... but doubt either Nelson or Shirley would (although as you mention we did get rid of D Gallagher).Originally posted by Eago77
Don't want to start cow bashing (well I do, but i wont
I guess though after saying that you did manage to work a trade for Gallagher last year, however you did only get Nelson in return.
But, Mattner wasn't elevated permanently - ie. where we delist a player. If Fitzy was delisted to elevate Mattner, I think it would be a different matter.
Hewitt has played many decent games for the Crows, particularly at CHB. How many decent games has Marsh played since 1998? I agree Perrie isn't a ruckman, but neither is Marsh a decent ruckman. He must go... even if it means redrafting Trent Ormand-Allen.
Yeahh, I agree that I don't want these 3 rucking either, but if we were desperate I would still prefer them if it meant us trading/delisting Marsh. I'm sure it won't come to that, as AFC looks to trading/drafting other ruck talent behind Biglands & Clarke.
Angwin is still on the full list & hasn't been delisted as the Crows are hoping to trade him (otherwise Mattner would have been elevated permanently). He hasn't been assigned a guernsey as he made it clear he wasn't going to play for the Crows. ie. AFC effectively ran one man short for 2002.
Reckon we traded Brent Williams to Mebourne from memory. Can't remember who we got for him (perhaps part of the Bassett or Ormond-Allen deal, & maybe Ingo was involved too?). Only played a few games for the Dees I think, then was delisted.
