Rhys Archard

[jimmas]

How do people rate this young lad and do you think he will get upgraded and play any part in the crows games at all during the year?

 

[Cap]

How do people rate this young lad and do you think he will get upgraded and play any part in the crows games at all during the year?

I think most people on the board reckon he will be upgraded fairly soon.Seems like a fairly good prospect especially the leg speed - maybe a tad small ?

 

[Mad Dog]

looks the best of the Rookies IMO

 

[macca23]

looks the best of the Rookies IMO

We have 2 rookies that look okay in McIntyre and Archard.

Both have a good chance of being up-graded, but the one who is likely to have a more significant career in the long run IMO is McIntyre.

I just think he brings more tricks to the table in that as a defender he can play tall or small - and he's pretty quick as well. A poor man's Ben Hart if you like, but not too poor.

 

[Alex99]

We have 2 rookies that look okay in McIntyre and Archard.

Both have a good chance of being up-graded, but the one who is likely to have a more significant career in the long run IMO is McIntyre.

I just think he brings more tricks to the table in that as a defender he can play tall or small - and he's pretty quick as well. A poor man's Ben Hart if you like, but not too poor.

Agree on all points-

 

[glengowan]

We have 2 rookies that look okay in McIntyre and Archard.

Both have a good chance of being up-graded, but the one who is likely to have a more significant career in the long run IMO is McIntyre.

I just think he brings more tricks to the table in that as a defender he can play tall or small - and he's pretty quick as well. A poor man's Ben Hart if you like, but not too poor.

I think you are probably right in that long term McIntyre is likely to be of more value due to his size and potential. Archard is already mature and would be ready to go this year.

I'd be more inclined to elevate Archard for this season and then re-evaluate at the end of the season whether to elevate McIntyre as well. I don't think McIntyre is anywhere near ready to be used in the AFL this year. Players such as Jericho and Hinge would/should be used before he is considered at this stage.

 

[Alex99]

I think you are probably right in that long term McIntyre is likely to be of more value due to his size and potential. Archard is already mature and would be ready to go this year.

I'd be more inclined to elevate Archard for this season and then re-evaluate at the end of the season whether to elevate McIntyre as well. I don't think McIntyre is anywhere near ready to be used in the AFL this year. Players such as Jericho and Hinge would/should be used before he is considered at this stage.

It’s comes back to the same argument regarding the promotion of young player, how that player is performing at the time.

If Andrew McIntyre is burning up the SANFL for North Adelaide and we need a defender, he should be promoted, especially if his form at the time is better than John Hinge or Luke Jericho’s.

If his form is good enough to warrant selection and he has shown he is good enough to come into the side and make a contribution, up grade him.

 

[RoosterLad]

Jericho and Hinge? Laughable!
Jericho is a dud and Hinge has shown nothing so far, unless he has a brilliant start with Glenelg i doubt he will get a look.

 

[Alex99]

Jericho and Hinge? Laughable!
Jericho is a dud and Hinge has shown nothing so far, unless he has a brilliant start with Glenelg i doubt he will get a look.

Opinion not fact.

 

[RoosterLad]

Fact: Jericho is rubbish.

 

[Alex99]

Fact: Jericho is rubbish.

Lucky for Luke Jericho that Neil Craig and the match committee at the AFC see his football ability a little different to you.

Just out of interest RL, what round does North Adelaide play West Adelaide in the SANFL this season?

 

[Mad Dog]

I think you are probably right in that long term McIntyre is likely to be of more value due to his size and potential. Archard is already mature and would be ready to go this year.
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I agree with all M23's points re McIntyre and the Ben Hart comparisons - but I guess this is where I was coming from in terms of being most ready to go now.

 

[RoosterLad]

Lucky for Luke Jericho that Neil Craig and the match committee at the AFC see his football ability a little different to you.

Just out of interest RL, what round does North Adelaide play West Adelaide in the SANFL this season?

Yes Neil Craig and the match committee obviously see it differently, how many games did he play last season again?

Our first game against West is Round 2 at Prosvegas.

 

[Alex99]

Yes Neil Craig and the match committee obviously see it differently, how many games did he play last season again?

Meh, still on the list....but who cares really.

Our first game against West is Round 2 at Prosvegas.

I know this is getting off the Rhys Archard topic but it is still AFC related.

If Kurt Tippett plays as a forward at West Adelaide (as expected) would Andrew McIntyre line up on him or would he be a little short?

It will be a good match up between 2 hopefuls youngsters at the AFC.

 

[RoosterLad]

That dud Smith guy was on the list for about 20 years, was he a gun?

I doubt McIntyre would play on Tippett, depends who else we have in defence that day though I guess, it wouldn't really get down there too much anyway. I guess Tippett will start in the seniors but there is half a chance he could play Bs, Bonnaddio spent a lot of time in the Bs despite West being rubbish but he was pretty average too.

 

[Drummond]

That dud Smith guy was on the list for about 20 years, was he a gun?

I doubt McIntyre would play on Tippett, depends who else we have in defence that day though I guess, it wouldn't really get down there too much anyway. I guess Tippett will start in the seniors but there is half a chance he could play Bs, Bonnaddio spent a lot of time in the Bs despite West being rubbish but he was pretty average too.

Jericho is pure rubbish, and is simply wasting a spot on the list. You do realise that the coaching staff make mistakes from time to time aren't you crows98? Keeping Jericho on the list was a mistake. He will never play for the AFC again.

 

[Mad Dog]

Jericho is pure rubbish, and is simply wasting a spot on the list. You do realise that the coaching staff make mistakes from time to time aren't you crows98? Keeping Jericho on the list was a mistake. He will never play for the AFC again.

last played for the club in Round 12 2005....

(regular season that is)

 

[Alex99]

Jericho is pure rubbish, and is simply wasting a spot on the list. You do realise that the coaching staff make mistakes from time to time aren't you crows98? Keeping Jericho on the list was a mistake. He will never play for the AFC again.

Of course the coaching staff can make mistakes.

And do you realise that Nathan Bock, Trent Hentschel, Ben Rutten, Marty Mattner, and a select few of other crow’s players have had the dubious honour of being labelled “rubbish” on this board as well.

Your entitled to your opinion and freedom of speech but I beg to differ and do not believe that he is rubbish, I believe that he has something genuine to offer and will turn into a major asset.

Each to his or her own, I guess.

 

[Drummond]

Of course the coaching staff can make mistakes.

And do you realise that Nathan Bock, Trent Hentschel, Ben Rutten, Marty Mattner, and a select few of other crow’s players have had the dubious honour of being labelled “rubbish” on this board as well.

Your entitled to your opinion and freedom of speech but I beg to differ and do not believe that he is rubbish, I believe that he has something genuine to offer and will turn into a major asset.

Each to his or her own, I guess.

I have a major problem with people using these guys as reinforcement as to why Jericho shouldn’t be written off. You see these guys did take a while to hone their skills and develop into players than could contribute at the highest level, but their effort could never be desired. Jericho on the other hand simply doesn’t seem to want it. His effort levels are appalling for someone that is hanging by a thread. And don’t try and tell me I'm basing this view purely on the NAB Cup GF, it’s practically every game he plays. Some players are more courageous than others, but he takes it to a new low. He is timid out there and simply does not go in hard enough. He will never make it because of this.

 

[Alex99]

I have a major problem with people using these guys as reinforcement as to why Jericho shouldn’t be written off. You see these guys did take a while to hone their skills and develop into players than could contribute at the highest level, but their effort could never be desired. Jericho on the other hand simply doesn’t seem to want it. His effort levels are appalling for someone that is hanging by a thread. And don’t try and tell me I'm basing this view purely on the NAB Cup GF, it’s practically every game he plays. Some players are more courageous than others, but he takes it to a new low. He is timid out there and simply does not go in hard enough. He will never make it because of this.

And you are entitled to your opinion (no one is disputing that) but I have faith the coaching staff at West Lakes will find a way to utilizing his football and athletic talent.

 

[Mad Dog]

Of course the coaching staff can make mistakes.

And do you realise that Nathan Bock, Trent Hentschel, Ben Rutten, Marty Mattner, and a select few of other crow’s players have had the dubious honour of being labelled “rubbish” on this board as well.

Your entitled to your opinion and freedom of speech but I beg to differ and do not believe that he is rubbish, I believe that he has something genuine to offer and will turn into a major asset.

Each to his or her own, I guess.

For their first 4 years on the AFC list

Rutten - 60 games and an AA
Mattner - 57 games ......and another 22 in his 5th year
Hentshell - 42 games ......and another 19 in his 5th year
Bock - 41 games



Jericho - 20 games

While Rutten, Mattner, Trent, and Bock might have been labelled rubbish by some (although not as frequently as others), they have at least put games and performances on the Board....and after a very short time are very important to our structure. Jericho is part of this "intake" but can't be compared with this group.

 

[fightingdreamer88]

Scotty Stevens copped non-stop crap from everyone but he came good, he always showed the signs, he just needed to be enriched that little bit more. Continue I shall, to maintain that Jericho has got his assets and that's why he is still on the list. We may yet be pleasantly surprised and really, how stupid will you all look if he rises to play a key role for us this year at some stage a la S. Stevens? Not saying he will, just that he isn't an entirely lost cause. Not yet.

 

[oldcrow]

Re Jericho - It is also a question of list management. I think at the end of last year they would have said who of the questionable players have the most potential? And they came up with Jericho. I think he has a year to convert that potential into reality.

 

[CrowHop]

That dud Smith guy was on the list for about 20 years, was he a gun?

I doubt McIntyre would play on Tippett, depends who else we have in defence that day though I guess, it wouldn't really get down there too much anyway. I guess Tippett will start in the seniors but there is half a chance he could play Bs, Bonnaddio spent a lot of time in the Bs despite West being rubbish but he was pretty average too.

Smith was no gun, but hardly a dud. He was handy for Sturt A's in defence.

Jeez, McIntyre and Tippett would be great to watch if it were to happen.

 

[CrowHop]

Interesting comments re Jericho and I agree that he was lucky to maintain a spot on the list.

However, if we delisted him, we probably would have had an extra late pick in the National Draft or an extra pick in the PSD. So :

1) What are the odds of Jericho turning in to a solid performer for the AFC with another year of development ?

compared to :

2) The odds of picking up someone with a late pick in the National draft (or PSD) and them turning out to be a better prospect than Jericho ?

The odds would be similar I reckon.

It's ok to say that Hinge, Jericho or whoever shouldn't be on the list but sometimes it's just not that simple.