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Wallace demands Tigers' pride be stung by Griffen
By Chloe Saltau
The Age
April 5, 2006

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RICHMOND coach Terry Wallace believes his players' already-dented pride was wounded by Bulldog Ryan Griffen's assertion that they had given up during last Friday's 115-point loss.

As the club tries to pull itself together for this week's crucial clash with St Kilda, Wallace said he confronted his players about Griffen's remarks and, while they denied arguing among themselves, he hoped they had been stung by the criticism.

"I wasn't out there so I can't make comments on whether our blokes were arguing with each other. Of course I asked them the question and they didn't believe that was the case, but I wasn't out there so I'm not prepared to delve into his comments," said Wallace, after he put the team through a two-hour session.

"I think every player who plays this game has pride in their performance and when that pride is dented, whether that be by the scoreboard, by comments that are made publicly, whether they are media comments or comments by opposition players, I think that bites. That hurts every player. You haven't got any self-pride if that doesn't hurt you."

Greg Stafford and Trent Knobel both got through training yesterday but neither is certain to return from injury on Friday night. Nathan Brown completed part of the session after pulling up sore from his first "real" match since breaking his leg, but he is on track to play against the Saints, who have an intimidating recent record against the Tigers.

Wallace foreshadowed "two or three" changes to the side thoroughly embarrassed by the Bulldogs. After a Saturday morning post-mortem arranged by football director Greg Miller, Wallace said he expected greater commitment from the players who delivered the worst loss of his coaching career.

"What I expect from our blokes is what I expected from them in round one and I didn't get, and that's full-blooded, absolute committed effort for four quarters no matter what the scoreboard says," Wallace said.

"We don't step away from the fact that we didn't deliver that last Friday night. We need to deliver that. If that gets us a result, great. If that doesn't get us a result, we march on knowing that's the commitment that they gave us and we're closer to getting a result."

Asked whether players had given up, Wallace suggested they might have been affected subconsciously as the Bulldogs slammed on goal after goal.

"Do blokes ever give up? I don't know if anyone consciously ever says that's the case, but I've played in a grand final where by the end of the game I've come away and said, 'Did I put everything in the tank that I possibly could have, because the scoreboard on that given day (showed) your premiership aspirations going down the drain'," he said. "What happens in a round one game when it starts going like that is, there's six months of work and hope and build-up and all of a sudden … bang! It went down the drain. That shouldn't happen and it's not an excuse, it's just probably a fact."

He said supporters were within their rights to question the skills of the players whose untidy kicking was noticeable at Telstra Dome. "Everyone works so hard over such a long period of time, and then you're fielding comments like, 'Have you done any work on your kicking?' Well, of course we've worked on our kicking every day for six months. So that's the sort of thing that's disappointing. I don't blame anyone for asking because if I was watching I would have asked the same question."
 

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I doubt that the gameplan that failed against West Coast was one targeting WCE - it was a long term development of a gameplan that would maximise our chances for a top four finish. The focus seems to be towards a tough, hard, running offensive game with high pressure, hard tackling defensive game.
The forward line seems to have a tall marking game with specific roles.

We were outpointed by the WCE, they played our defensive game better than we did, they played the tough, hard, running game better than us but our defence outpointed their forwards. WCE won by stopping us from scoring, not by outscoring us. Richmond are unlikely to be able to emulate this feat.

We need to get the forward line right, we have a plan, it usually takes three or so weeks before big men like Fraser come good, and significantly our fitness levels weren't up to WC standard (despite them having one week less in training). We will have derived more benefit from the hitout.

The Richmond game will be a tough encounter, better to have tough players in there, rather than make the mistake of opting for running players. Richmond will be out to prove that they are no easybeats, the physical pressure will be the most that they can come up with all season. We need to weather that, then proceed to win the match.
 
StKildonan said:
I doubt that the gameplan that failed against West Coast was one targeting WCE - it was a long term development of a gameplan that would maximise our chances for a top four finish. The focus seems to be towards a tough, hard, running offensive game with high pressure, hard tackling defensive game.
The forward line seems to have a tall marking game with specific roles.

We were outpointed by the WCE, they played our defensive game better than we did, they played the tough, hard, running game better than us but our defence outpointed their forwards. WCE won by stopping us from scoring, not by outscoring us. Richmond are unlikely to be able to emulate this feat.

We need to get the forward line right, we have a plan, it usually takes three or so weeks before big men like Fraser come good, and significantly our fitness levels weren't up to WC standard (despite them having one week less in training). We will have derived more benefit from the hitout.

The Richmond game will be a tough encounter, better to have tough players in there, rather than make the mistake of opting for running players. Richmond will be out to prove that they are no easybeats, the physical pressure will be the most that they can come up with all season. We need to weather that, then proceed to win the match.

i thought they would bring in running players like X montagna, fiora
 
sammm said:
i thought they would bring in running players like X montagna, fiora

It's clearly something we have to look at. Whether the form of Joey and Fiora last week was good enough to warrant a place and X is 100% fit is another question but in the coming weeks they'll have to be brought in.

Not only were we exposed on the wide open spaces of Subiaco but Richmond were torn apart by the running style employed by the Bulldogs. On the other hand, perhaps the Bulldogs would play differently if they had the likes of Gehrig, Riewoldt and Hamill up forward. And do they have the defence to stop our forwards if our midfield is dominating in the centre of the ground?

We do need to get our forward set-up working though. We haven't scored more than 10 goals in our last 3 games but they were against Adelaide at AAMI Stadium, Sydney at the MCG and West Coast at Subiaco. Now that we're back at Telstra Dome and playing a less talented team we can hopefully get back to the attacking style of play that has been so successful in the last couple of seasons.

Like most of our supporters I'm not taking anything for granted this week. I'll be very happy with any sort of win.
 
sainter said:
Like most of our supporters I'm not taking anything for granted this week. I'll be very happy with any sort of win.


How would you feel about a loss?
 
sante said:
How would you feel about a loss?

The West Gate Bridge comes to mind. ;)

That's probably a bit melodramatic. It won't be the end of the world but it will feel like it on friday night anyway. Then again I'm a shocking loser so I don't know how I've got through being a Saints supporter for so many years.

At least with the new training services department led by Craig Starcevich the emphasis seems to have changed to one that has our best players fit and firing at the end of the season when it counts. It's no good getting yourselves into a home preliminary final when many of your key players are either injured or not match fit.
 
I'm very happy to scrape through with the win here. It's a well-known fact that teams who get beaten by 100 come out the next week with a good performance (see Carlton of 2004 who won all if not all but one of their games following 100 point defeats).

I think the Tigers can avoid the spoon ;)
 

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