Demosthenes
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Subtitles on Seven just said that the Australians are racing for gold in the "Macra 17s".
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Yup. Burton's not even top 10 so it was a massive upset.
Nearly all successful competition sailors learn to sail in dinghies from a very young age - that is where you learn boat-handling, tuning and tactical skills. I used to sail the ex-Olympic classes Flying Dutchman (the last dinghy class I sailed before I went to keelboats) and Dragons. The Dragons with 3 crew meant you didn't have to be a gorilla to sail them (unlike the Star Class [very technical boat to tune], Etchells, and the Finn dinghy). But I have never sailed on a wetter boat than the Dragon - it is not that hard to sink those mothers in big seas.Yeah, I'm an Etchells and Dragon sailor so I'm biased towards keelboats.
I have mixed feelings about dinghy racing but at least the sailing isn't all cats and sailboards - yet, anyway.
Also, there is usually a bias (the right end or the wrong end) to the lay of the startline, depending on tide and wind (windshift trends) and proximity of the land. If you go against the trend you might get less congestion but you want to make sure you have the boat speed to avoid some severe downsides. Some guys/gals are natural aces at the start.Basically Burton was maneuvering to lock Stipanovic out and give him a bad start. Starting in sailing is tricky because of right-of-way rules, and having to time your approach on the right vector to ensure you hit the line at exactly the right time whilst travelling full speed. So it's pretty easy to work out what approach a given boat needs to take to the line. If you want to **** up another guy's race it's not hard (as long as you don't mind ******* yourself up too).
Burton was counting on the Croat getting aggressive and trying to get past when he shouldn't - which he did, got into a position where he had no room to manouvre and collided with Burton. That meant a penalty turn, and gave Burton the opportunity to get ahead.
It was a ballsy move by Burton, but it came off beautifully.
I recall in one race where we set up a jockey pole prelim to hoisting the kite on a tight reach, everyone was calling Up, Up, and we all got squeezed, so that in the swell (this was off Honolulu) our jockey pole dipped under the rail of the leeward boat
Kind of a snippy comment, bud. Fact is, I started competitive sailing at age 6. Been on family boats since a baby. And I have lots of stories, like most yachties do. Whether you believe me or not is your privilege.You could be making all of this stuff up and I'd have no idea whether you're bullshitting or not.
I'm impressed at your dedication to sailing, I hope the Australian government and public follow suit so our sailors get the recognition they deserve. It looks like a seriously tough sport judging from the endless replays of Tom Burton the past few hours.
im pretty sure he was just trying illustrate his own lack of knowledge rather than question your insight or experience.Kind of a snippy comment, bud. Fact is, I started competitive sailing at age 6. Been on family boats since a baby. And I have lots of stories, like most yachties do. Whether you believe me or not is your privilege.
Sailing at Olympic level takes enormous time and dedication. I've sailed against Olympians in nationals and have seen what they can do. Always in awe of sailing folk who are Olympic medal winners.
Hah, yes, I guess I'm getting old and grumpy.im pretty sure he was just trying illustrate his own lack of knowledge rather than question your insight or experience.
...anyway, im in the same boat (see what i did there) when it comes to sailing knowledge but im enjoying the posts from the guys that know their stuff.
that gold medal is a whole lot more enjoyable with a basic understanding of what actually happened.
im pretty sure he was just trying illustrate his own lack of knowledge rather than question your insight or experience.
...anyway, im in the same boat (see what i did there) when it comes to sailing knowledge but im enjoying the posts from the guys that know their stuff.
that gold medal is a whole lot more enjoyable with a basic understanding of what actually happened.
No sweat, FP.Yeah, this. Like I said, impressed. Not meant to be an insult at all, deltablues, far from it. Enjoy your insight when most of us don't have a clue.
Why does leaning help you when you're sailing?
I will talk about 3 classes I know a little about because when I lived in Sydney my best mate who moved up from Adelaide a year before I did, did some sailing for a few years on the harbour before retiring for a few years and then went back, lasted a year and decided to buy a motor boat to take the family out.It was John Bertrand's cunning plan all along!
Nobody wants to answer my question?