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Preview Rnd 3 - Carlton v Essendon* Sunday 9th April 3:20 PM @ MCG - Squad post #598

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Over my lifetime, there are only three clubs who have gotten under my skin for their ability to pull a performance out of nowhere against us: Essendon, Fremantle and North Melbourne.

The worst part about this is that all three tend do it through back chat, obscuring the umpires view at stoppages and good old fashioned intimidation. Not the stuff of strong men, but the stuff of school-yard bullies. And almost every time, we get sucked in.

However unlike the other two teams, our rivalry with the Dons is the stuff of legend:

The 2001 game without SOS, Bradley and Kouta.
The 1999 prelim.
The 1993 Grand Final
(how many AFL rules do these arseclowns get to break anyway?).

They love to crow about the recent encounters between the two teams, but frankly we've both been at best middle-of-the-road since then end of 2001, since they hilariously squandered a dynasty and we had thrown all our eggs in the Kouta, Parkin and Legends Stand basket, and subsequently watched the basket burst into flames.

And so those all these figurative fires burn on, with the victor of these games typically the team that can hold their nerve for longer.

Matchups almost don't matter; ladder position doesn't matter. This game is decided by the psyche of the 22 men that go out for each team, and that's why these games are unnerving for me no matter how good our form is.

Form line:
Blues -
TBD, L, L, W, L, L
Dons - W, W, [REDACTED]

Last five encounters: L, W, L, D, L

Noteable injuries:
Blues -
Byrne (ACL, indefinite), Phillips (foot, 1 week)
Dons - Green (hamstring, 2 weeks), Laverde (ankle, 11 weeks), Leuenberger (hamstring, test)

Selection chances:
Blues -
Kerridge, Buckley, Sheehan, Palmer, McKay, Boekhorst
Dons - Bellchambers, Francis, Leuenberger, Stewart, Brown

Team philosophies:
Blues -
stoppage control, high press and midfield/forward pressure, counter attack, marks inside 50
Dons - stoppage spread, midfield pressure, counter attack, numbers back and goals over the top

Difference makers:
Blues -
Cripps, Gibbs, Murphy, Kreuzer, Weitering, Docherty, Marchbank, Pickett
Dons - Hurley, Daniher, Watson, Heppell, McDonald-Tipungwuti, Hooker

Our defence vs their forwards:
Despite his kicking woes, Daniher is a constant threat on the lead, and will be a challenge for Rowe, White or Plowman, which leaves a pretty tough test for Marchbank, especially if Hooker remains forward.

That said, there's a real possibility that Hooker gets shifted into defence and a genuine ruck comes in to support McKernan, with both Bellchambers and Leuenberger close to sleection.

Their small forwards could be troublesome if we worry about them on the counter, but the focus should be on pressuring the kicker so that their longer kicks fall shallow and we can intercept. If you're late to a marking pack and your name isn't Sam Rowe or Levi Casboult, please stay the **** down.

Midfield:
Very evenly matched, right down to archetypes. Watson vs Cripps; Thomas vs Heppell; Simpson vs Stanton; Murphy vs Parish; Wright vs Colyer; Goddard vs Docherty; SPS vs Zaharakis; Gibbs vs Kelly. They bat a smidge deeper with Merrett running around versus us having Smedts in the mix, not to mention a larger contingent of small defenders and forwards to support that group.

This makes the ruck battle extremely important, as does each team playing to their strengths. Whichever side is faster and more accurate in its decision making about when to spread versus when to collapse and pressure is going to win the midfield battle, clearance and contested stats be damned.

Support from Pickett and Armfield will be critical in giving us opportunities on the outside.

Our forwards vs their defence:
This is the uphill battle for us. If Hooker goes to defence, that's two former All-Australian backmen against Levi and an otherwise youthful forward group. Wright, Armfield, Gibbs, Murphy, Thomas and Pickett will assist at times at ground level, but it's at best break even contests everywhere unless Charlie Curnow or SOS can exploit a mismatch.

Levi cannot allow himself to get controlled by Hartley again, and additionally must assert himself in the ruck to drive home the advantage we should have there.

Final thoughts:
If we go tall again, I fear that the swarm Essendon traditionally offer around the stoppage and on the counter attack will melt down our defenses if current form offers any guide.

There's a decent chance for us to be competitive if we trust in what our youth can provide in terms of attacking avenues and opportunities. Round 1 showed us they're willing to give them that chance.

My tip:
Head - Essendon by 20
Heart - Tachycardia

ping Aphrodite
 
After watching today's game, I'd make these changes (based on VFL reports):

Out:
Armfield, White, C.Curnow, Casboult
In: Buckley, Boekhorst, Palmer, McKay

FB: Docherty Rowe Plowman
HB: Thomas Marchbank Simpson
C: Buckley Murphy E.Curnow
HF: SPS Weitering Wright
FF: SOS McKay Pickett

R: Kreuzer Cripps Gibbs

Int: Macreadie, Boekhorst, Palmer, Smedts

Another option is Sheehan instead of Buckley or Boekhorst.
 
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Think most of us agree we need more run and rotations in the middle.

White simply has to be the one to make way this week. Macreadie looks very solid, Marchbank and Plowman are guns, Rowe shut down Hogan. That's plenty down back.

Then I'd swap Armfield for someone more versatile, a mid/forward type. I love the bloke but it simply has to happen. Daisy certainly did enough to keep his spot for another week, good luck to him.

So 2 changes but who to bring in?

Sumner would be first up to replace Armfield if he was fit, is he though? Not likely. Boekhorst played well in the twos, worth giving him a shot while confidence is up? Dunno. Palmer? Not quick but I'd swap him for White.

More questions than answers from me ATM. If we can win only 2 games for the year, please, please let it be this week and Rd 20.

Palmer for White
Boekhorst for Armfield

Stick it up the filthy cheats, 'Baggers, for all our sakes.
 
Out: C. Curnow, Armfield, SPS
In: Jaksch, Palmer, Boekhorst

I don't see how persisting with Curnow is good for him or us - let him drop back, play more midfield minutes and get some confidence in the seconds.

Every time I think Armfield is no longer up to it, he comes back and shows us why we've loved him over the years. I'm sure that will happen again at some point this year, but for now he is a liability in a team carrying too many.

SPS has had a taste, looks the goods, but shouldn't be gifted a spot because he was a high pick. He's off the pace and we have plenty of other youngsters deserving of their shot - any of Cuningham, Fisher, Kerridge, BB I'd be happy with.
 
Worried about their speed...especially if we're going tall again.
Richmond's smalls put us to the sword and are no where near as good as Essendons.

Fantasia, McDonald-Tipugnwudi & Merrett are all in really good form.
Colyer and Parish are also dangerous.

Apart from Pickett we don't really have anyone else in our team who can match those speedsters for pace.

OUT: White, Armfield
IN: Kerridge, Buckley (unless he's still injured, then Palmer).

McKay still needs to gain some experience and from in VFL for mine.
Unfortunately we don't have any other young midfielders really pushing their case...looks like boekhorst had a decent game but Cuningham again didn't do much. No one really banging down the door to demand being picked.
 
Think most of us agree we need more run and rotations in the middle.

White simply has to be the one to make way this week. Macreadie looks very solid, Marchbank and Plowman are guns, Rowe shut down Hogan. That's plenty down back.

Then I'd swap Armfield for someone more versatile, a mid/forward type. I love the bloke but it simply has to happen. Daisy certainly did enough to keep his spot for another week, good luck to him.

So 2 changes but who to bring in?

Sumner would be first up to replace Armfield if he was fit, is he though? Not likely. Boekhorst played well in the twos, worth giving him a shot while confidence is up? Dunno. Palmer? Not quick but I'd swap him for White.

More questions than answers from me ATM. If we can win only 2 games for the year, please, please let it be this week and Rd 20.

Palmer for White
Boekhorst for Armfield

Stick it up the filthy cheats, 'Baggers, for all our sakes.

I think us being so tall down back is also negatively affecting Docherty & Simpsons game.

Wouldn't mind those changes, or giving Kerridge a run.
Honestly i'd also prefer to drop Casboult for Kerridge for more run, then play Rowe as the forward/ruck. Would still have Macreadie, Plowman & Marchbank down back...but doesn't look like the MC see that as a viable option.

Does anyone actually know what's up with Sumner?
 
SPS has had a taste, looks the goods, but shouldn't be gifted a spot because he was a high pick. He's off the pace and we have plenty of other youngsters deserving of their shot - any of Cuningham, Fisher, Kerridge, BB I'd be happy with.

??? Doesn't look out of place, obvious class just needs experience. dropping after 2 games is madness
 
Bit early for SPS to be having a spell.

Out: White, Armfield, Curnow
In: Palmer...

Not keen on getting Boekhorst into the side after one decent game.

Not keen on getting Jaksch into the side just yet.

Nobody else pressing for selection.

Perhaps Gus.
 

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OUT - Charlie Curnow (Omitted), Simon White (Omitted), Dennis Armfield (Omitted)

IN - Nick Graham, Rhys Palmer, Kristian Jaksch

FB - Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Harrison Macreadie
HB - Sam Docherty, Caleb Marchbank, Kade Simpson
C - Nick Graham, Marc Murphy, Ed Curnow
HF - Sam Petrevski-Seton, Jacob Weitering, Rhys Palmer
FF - Matthew Wright, Levi Casboult, Jack Silvagni
R - Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Patrick Cripps

I -
Billie Smedts, Dale Thomas, Jarrod Pickett, Kristian Jaksch

E - Dennis Armfield, Charlie Curnow, Sam Kerridge

C. Curnow has had two shockers and isn't meeting expectations. Armfield might be stiff when it comes to omissions and White has little to no upside in his game.

Graham was an emergency and might be a chance to get another call-up. Palmer impressed in the VFL, so he is likely to get an opportunity. 2 goals from Jaksch in the twos might see him sneak in as well.

I'd give McKay another week or two before I consider him.
 
??? Doesn't look out of place, obvious class just needs experience. dropping after 2 games is madness
He was lucky to get a game without any competitive exposure, has faded and I felt was off the pace today. Don't see the issue in giving someone else a run.
 
Out: C. Curnow, Armfield, SPS
In: Jaksch, Palmer, Boekhorst

I don't see how persisting with Curnow is good for him or us - let him drop back, play more midfield minutes and get some confidence in the seconds.

Every time I think Armfield is no longer up to it, he comes back and shows us why we've loved him over the years. I'm sure that will happen again at some point this year, but for now he is a liability in a team carrying too many.

SPS has had a taste, looks the goods, but shouldn't be gifted a spot because he was a high pick. He's off the pace and we have plenty of other youngsters deserving of their shot - any of Cuningham, Fisher, Kerridge, BB I'd be happy with.

Crazy talk I'm afraid.
 
He was lucky to get a game without any competitive exposure, has faded and I felt was off the pace today. Don't see the issue in giving someone else a run.
Playing VFL won't make a difference to his fitness level. Better off leaving him in to adjust to the pace of AFL. He certainly doesn't look out of place unlike some.
 
Hate the s**tstain of a club we play this weekend.

Hope we give them hell, looks like drug taking does have its rewards. Can't muster enthusiasm for this game. Just hope there are no injuries.
 

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I think us being so tall down back is also negatively affecting Docherty & Simpsons game.

Wouldn't mind those changes, or giving Kerridge a run.
Honestly i'd also prefer to drop Casboult for Kerridge for more run, then play Rowe as the forward/ruck. Would still have Macreadie, Plowman & Marchbank down back...but doesn't look like the MC see that as a viable option.

Does anyone actually know what's up with Sumner?
Agree in regards to Doc and Simmo. Tuohy gone also having an influence for mine.

I'd love to give Sheehan a run but doubt he'd be ready yet. I'd have had Kerridge as an in but apparently he was back to butchering it this morning.

At least Sumner played today, the bloke is alive. He'd be my first option but can't see how he'd be ready either.

We simply must inject some run and/or midfield rotations. Like someone said Boekhorst probably doesn't deserve a call up off of one good game, I'm desperate though.

Armfield and White have been tried, tried and tried some more. It simply has to be time to move on. They can provide their good leadership for our youngsters in the twos.
 
Like to see Palmer Buckley Sheehan & McKay come in.

Graham was emergency for today so must be close

Id be ok about seeing two of Palmer, Sheehan and Graham come in in place of White and Armfield against the Dons. Hopefully McKay, Polson, Cuningham, Fisher and Williamson can step it up over the next few weeks and months to force their inclusion at the expense of Thomas, Casboult, Rowe etc.
 
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