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I would have thought the "kill Rohde" crowd would have been out today. Sheedy gave him a bit of a touch up last night.

* No answer to the paddock in the 3rd when we were getting crushed in the middle.

* Did nothing to counter the man dropping in front of Brown

* Took too long to bring on Patrick Bowden

* Let Darcy do his own thing when Hille was going forward

I am not part of the sack Rohde crowd, we have to give him time, but last night he got beat (not the first time Sheedy has done that to a coach)
 
Is not manning up the coaches fault? Maybe or maybe not?

Missing easy set shots isn't

Injuries neither.
 
Originally posted by jim440
I would have thought the "kill Rohde" crowd would have been out today. Sheedy gave him a bit of a touch up last night.

* No answer to the paddock in the 3rd when we were getting crushed in the middle.
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I had a shot in the 'pros and cons' thread but nobody took a bite back.

Take a look at who was in the middle in the first 20 mins of the 3rd quarter. Fast forward the tape to 20 mins into the 3rd quarter and look at who is the the middle up until 3/4 time.
 
Have to agree with bringin bowdo on to late he played a good game last week.It didnt do much to bowdens confidence to have him spend a half on the bench.He played pretty well when he came on which comes to show he should be playing for the whole game.
 

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Can't blame the coach...hes doin a good job

Our prob on Saturday night in the third quarter was that the only good hard man at the football was lying in a hospital bed!

The problem is that the players aren't playing the coach wants them too.

Lets just watch em this week, after they have their bonding session on the beach...Can I go too??
 
I don't really care about Rohde, I just got myself a Melbourne Dockers membership. No more Bulldogs for this poster.
 
How can Rohde possibly be to blame for the loss. We had 1 more shot than them. We lost cos they kicked for goal better, if we kicked 20.9 instead of 16.14 we wouldhave won, simple as that. We were tougher andmore accountable than last week, and ****ed the game down the drain in 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter
 
Originally posted by The_Flying_Egg
How can Rohde possibly be to blame for the loss. We had 1 more shot than them. We lost cos they kicked for goal better, if we kicked 20.9 instead of 16.14 we wouldhave won, simple as that. We were tougher andmore accountable than last week, and ****ed the game down the drain in 10 minutes of the 3rd quarter
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Maybe he should've got Darce to man up better.
I think the ****ing down the drain started earlier when Darce passed to Hill in front of goal and Browny missing gettable shots and we gave away a good lead.
 
The match-up that had me baffled was McGuiness on Harvey. If McGuiness is going to play back, he shouldn't be on a small quick.

And where was the help up forward for Browny? If we're going to allow him to be triple teamed, then at least have a plan for exploiting the spares. But everyone just cleared out.
 
Lets let the guy concentrate on the big things first, like getting a decent game plan working, then worry about fine tuning later.

Hes going to need time to improve his own performance as well.

All I want from Rhode at this stage is a tall marking forward in the goal sqaure at all times.
 
Originally posted by K9-54
The match-up that had me baffled was McGuiness on Harvey. If McGuiness is going to play back, he shouldn't be on a small quick.
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The injury to Robbins forced this poor match-up
 
Can't blame the coach...hes doin a good job.

The problem is that the players aren't playing the coach wants them too
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What makes you think he is doing a good job? At this stage there is nothing to suggest that it is not Rohde's own inability to instill his preferred style of play into the team that is the problem. impossible for us to judge player vs coaching fault in that regard at this stage. What we can judge is whether Rohde has the side playing in the structure it should be.

I thought Rohde coached much better in the pre season than he has in any of the 4 games so far.

Seems he has got to the real stuff and for whatever reason been too scared to go with his preferred structure. IMO good coaches set their structure, place the best players appropriately and fill in the holes the best he can with the rest.

Rohde has either wasted a whole pre season playing Wiggins at FF(for those who think Wiggins is useless), or is wasting time with the small structure, whilst sitting our best tall FF(for those who think Wiggins is ok) option on the bench/twos. Either way he is at fault.

To point at our high scoring and say the forward line is getting the job done is ridiculously simplistic. Next time a midfielder turns it over going for a risky short pass ask yourself why he didn't go long and put the opposition defence under pressure. Further engraining this risky short passing into our midfield playing style will only make it harder for him to ever get us playing a different way(not talking about a Pagan long kicking style, but rather a style that allows you to go long when under pressure, rather than trying to force a short pass that is not really there. So often we leak easy goals because of doing that).

We lost cos they kicked for goal better, if we kicked 20.9 instead of 16.14 we wouldhave won, simple as that.
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The type of shots we are getting at goal have a lot to do with the way Rohde sets up our forward line.

Having said all that, i was more pleased with the way he set our structure against essendon than i had been previously.
 

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Lets not jump the gun on Rhode.

Give him a chance. Wallet didn't set the world on fire in his first 3/4 of a season.

How about we all reserve judgement until after the following games Bribane, St Kilda, Freo and Carlton.

Any good and we could get back to 4 - 4, pending injures of course.

p.s. Boyd should be promoted, best of the small men at Werribee. So what he is not lightening quick, he goes in hard and thats what we need.
 
Originally posted by LondonBulldog
Lets not jump the gun on Rhode.

Give him a chance. Wallet didn't set the world on fire in his first 3/4 of a season.
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Wallace picked up a team that had won 2 and half games (correct me if i'm wrong) and won as many as Joyce did in 9 games.

His first full season produced out best results since Wheels.

The crux of my post is that i still think Rohde's crap.
 
Originally posted by sigscotty
What makes you think he is doing a good job? At this stage there is nothing to suggest that it is not Rohde's own inability to instill his preferred style of play into the team that is the problem. impossible for us to judge player vs coaching fault in that regard at this stage. What we can judge is whether Rohde has the side playing in the structure it should be.
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That is true sig, we cannot possibly know. However, some of the criticism has been a bit harsh, so it is not suprising to see people rush to Rhode's defense. If you look at the games we have lost it has been (i believe) less to do with our structure and more to do with players making basic skill errors that are really not good enough at this level. You could argue that the structure is part of the problem, that we turn it over going inside 50 so often because we don't have a proper structure in the forward line, but it has worked in the past. Maybe he decided his preferred structure didn't work in the preseason and players like Wiggins need more experience before we give them the responsibility of being a focal point in the forward line. If you disagree with the structure does that mean he is a bad coach??
 
Originally posted by Isdogisgood
If you disagree with the structure does that mean he is a bad coach??
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Before last week we were 2-2 with his forward line/general structure.

That means we go into a game with a 50-50 chance of winning.

Although that's realistic, if we went into the game against Richmond, knowing we had a height advantage in the forward line had we played a different set up than normal, the odds of winning that game change.

History shows we didnt, and subsiquently we got beat.

We played the structure that some of us have been wanting on Saturday night. Had we played that structure i believe that would have seen us at 3-1 rather than 1-3.
 
Ok so maybe if we had the forward line structure you want we may have had a better chance of winning and the errors wouldn't have mattered so much because we would have won anyway???
 
You know what, all the errors in the world wouldn't matter if you were a point or 100 points up when the final siren goes.

The fact of the matter is, with the way the team was structured on Saturday with Bowds Skip Brown, Garlick in the forward line with Johnno and Gia sometimes dropping down, we looked 100% better than when we kicked to a contest with Browny vs two other taller guys.

When we did something similar against Richmond, Spud refused to put the taller option on the taller forward. We kicked 6 goals. Rohde returned to the shorter one out option in the second half, and suprise suprise we lost.
 

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I didn't realise that actually. I heard they have heaps of stats people telling them everything under the sun. How could they have not seen this?
 

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