Rookie Draft

[GeeCat]

Bedford ran a 2.90 sprint during the state screening, but depending on where you look, is only listed at 180/66 (to the 186/86 that's been reported elsewhere).

I do worry about what our ruck stocks are like though.

 

[WE Are Geelong]

what did you find on bedford all i know about him is height weight and some mention on some sites that he is "exciting". no mention on his pace endurance skills or type of player so any extra info would be appreciated

edit: too slow it seems checking above link now. (damn broken hand)

Limited material really as I think we are all finding...has played in defence, has some pace to run the lines which is what I was alluding to in what we need to develop, if that is him in that picture can jump too...other than that some touted him to go in the National draft late...no idea as yet about endurance but skimming articles from some local journalists the skills will be there if perhaps a little erratic.

I would be suprised if endurance was an issue, this draft we have been looking for speed and endurance and it was something Bomber stressed prior to the national draft....

 

[sarah.13]

Can someone explain why the edit icon always appears on my posts?

 

[jess_555]

Bedford ran a 2.90 sprint during the state screening, but depending on where you look, is only listed at 180/66 (to the 186/86 that's been reported elsewhere).

I do worry about what our ruck stocks are like though.

Agreed. What are our ruck options now? Seems like we have gone berserk fishing for fast midfielders. Yes, we need some of them but we seem to have picked up wayyyy many!

 

[cat in sydney]

Can someone explain why the edit icon always appears on my posts?

We can't see the edit icon on your posts. Only you can edit your posts.

 

[sarah.13]

We can't see the edit icon on your posts. Only you can edit your posts.

I knew that.Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[sarah.13]

Don't you just love Bedford's profile on the G.F.C. website

 

[jess_555]

Don't you just love Bedford's profile on the G.F.C. website

LMAO

 

[jim boy]

In summary:

1. Reynolds - a conservative pick, good footy brain but not really done anything outstanding as yet. If he can get his body right has the potential be a pretty handy player.

2. Liam Bedford - a real roll of the dice, don't really know much about him but seems a flashy player who was playing borders of the colts and reserves in the WAFL. The VFL will be a big step up for him, never mind the AFL. If he makes it he could be anything but that is a mighty big if.

3. Davenport - no doubting his ticker but questionable disposal skills and lacks physical presence. If he becomes depth player, then he should be happy with his lot.

4. Lonergan - Hard to know what will happen. In all likelihood he will be putting in only limited appearances in the twos andthen the club must either promote him or let him go. Will he do enough in his short appearnces to be kept on the list?

 

[Turbocat]

Bedford ran a 2.90 sprint during the state screening, but depending on where you look, is only listed at 180/66 (to the 186/86 that's been reported elsewhere).

I do worry about what our ruck stocks are like though.

Ohh G preaching to the choir. However having a look at the Rookie picks is there anyone that we really ignored that we could have taken and we were probably a little restricted by the redrafting of Lonergan. It all just depends on just how brittle King & Ottens are. If they have a couple of years where they can play quality games , not just empty attendance games , we have the position covered no problem.
Medium term , Blake and West , have both shown glimpses so maybe the cupboard isnt totally bare. Blake does need to up his around the ground , non-ruck conributions but he has time and West is still way off but has shown a good leap. Blake and West should ideally get more games of the bench but I’m sure our general speed or lack of it , has contributed to resistance of playing 3 rucks.
And maybe they are also think about H in a fill in similar to what Chambers was.
So , we do have a bit of time but not a heap. I really think they have take a big bite at it in the next year or two. I say again we have 6 positions on the Rookie list , surely one could be a 20 year old ruckman that’s been missed or who has started late.

Overall I think we have done well in the RD.
For the second year in row , we have gone for a delisted Bomber.Bias?Inside knowlege?He must have shown something to get them to bite with the first pick and he fits the mould because he is an old Falcons and we just love bringing to the GFC , dont we. The question is will he be able to contribute to our main 22 or is he just making up the numbers. If its the later then we probably could have picked another untried player. If the former , does that mean he will be the nominated Rookie over Grima?
Without detailed info on our 2nd pick I'm happy with another Indigenous player especially if he is 186 rather than 180.
I also like the Davenport thing because the package "Davenport" is more a known quanity than a normal R3 Rokkie kid. Just like Egan , they are in the know on what type of kid he is and what he offers now and for the future.
Lonergan deserved to be retained , you don’t do the dirty on a bloke that has donated an organ for the club.

No Tom Couch , It willl be interesting on what happens with him.

 

[Partridge]

I would be suprised if endurance was an issue, this draft we have been looking for speed and endurance and it was something Bomber stressed prior to the national draft....

Just remember Bumbler stressed the same requirements (plus skill) when he arrived at the club in 1999 - which has since seen the recruitment of Ling, Corey, Enright, Bartel, Kelly etc. Good solid players but hardly speed demons. He actually has speedy players in Tenace, Byrnes and Wocjinski but they rarely get selected. Drafting fast players is one thing, getting them in the seniors is another - if they make it.

 

[Gazzajr is god]

Wondered over to the doggies page if anyone raised the question about the getting Pask because they want his girlfriend to attend there games and provide some publicity.

Thought the pic was pretty funny.

 

[Rosso]

Bedford ran a 2.90 sprint during the state screening, but depending on where you look, is only listed at 180/66 (to the 186/86 that's been reported elsewhere).

I do worry about what our ruck stocks are like though.

He also had the best vertical leap at the WA screening test so I would imagine that the high flyer in the picture from Claremonts website is none other than Bedders.

 

[Reg Hickey]

I do worry about what our ruck stocks are like though.

He also had the best vertical leap at the WA screening test so I would imagine that the high flyer in the picture from Claremonts website is none other than Bedders.

Maybe we play him in the ruck then?? At 180cm he's almost as tall as the great John Nicholls ...

 

[GeeCat]

Ohh G preaching to the choir. However having a look at the Rookie picks is there anyone that we really ignored that we could have taken and we were probably a little restricted by the redrafting of Lonergan. It all just depends on just how brittle King & Ottens are. If they have a couple of years where they can play quality games , not just empty attendance games , we have the position covered no problem.

I wouldn't suggest that the said rookie ruckman would be in line (or in mind) for senior back-up to either King, Ottens, or even Blake. However, I do think it's always important to keep the factory chain going - churning out prospective, raw kids for development. Generally speaking, the longer we hold back now, the harder and more time consuming it'll be in the future.

I don't give King much more time (I could argue that, in a perfect world, he'd probably be fighting for the back-up role as it stands), Ottens can't ruck full-time, and there's no guarantee that either Blake or West will cut it. What I'm afraid of is the club waiting out too long till they finally get that production line going again, and whilst we wait for the 2-4 years of development to come and go, we're stuck in limbo.

 

[Rosso]

Maybe we play him in the ruck then?? At 180cm he's almost as tall as the great John Nicholls ...

Hang on Reg. I have to say I think I've been misquoted. But then again, the kid can jump!

 

[Rosso]

I wouldn't suggest that the said rookie ruckman would be in line (or in mind) for senior back-up to either King, Ottens, or even Blake. However, I do think it's always important to keep the factory chain going - churning out prospective, raw kids for development. Generally speaking, the longer we hold back now, the harder and more time consuming it'll be in the future.

I don't give King much more time (I could argue that, in a perfect world, he'd probably be fighting for the back-up role as it stands), Ottens can't ruck full-time, and there's no guarantee that either Blake or West will cut it. What I'm afraid of is the club waiting out too long till they finally get that production line going again, and whilst we wait for the 2-4 years of development to come and go, we're stuck in limbo.

Don't bail out on Kingy & Otto just yet. Both have struggled for fitness over the past few years mainly due to injuries hampering their preseasons. History has shown us that Kingy's best is fantastic and he did produce it in a couple of games last year despite the injuries. Otto probably carried too much weight thinking that he would play 80% out of the goal square and has since been forced to run out half the match in the ruck carrying those extra kg's.

Ruckman seem to go on forever. Spider's Burton & Everitt, Paul Salmon, Shawn Rehn, Greg Dear heck even Matty Clark is giving it another crack. If Kingy has a year without major problems he'll steer us in the right direction and if he gets through unscathed, then who knows how long he stays at the cattery. One thing I'd like to see though is a genuine ruck coach. Just a part time role would suffice but give these fellas a new outlook on their position.

 

[GeeCat]

Don't bail out on Kingy & Otto just yet. Both have struggled for fitness over the past few years mainly due to injuries hampering their preseasons. History has shown us that Kingy's best is fantastic and he did produce it in a couple of games last year despite the injuries. Otto probably carried too much weight thinking that he would play 80% out of the goal square and has since been forced to run out half the match in the ruck carrying those extra kg's.

Ruckman seem to go on forever. Spider's Burton & Everitt, Paul Salmon, Shawn Rehn, Greg Dear heck even Matty Clark is giving it another crack. If Kingy has a year without major problems he'll steer us in the right direction and if he gets through unscathed, then who knows how long he stays at the cattery. One thing I'd like to see though is a genuine ruck coach. Just a part time role would suffice but give these fellas a new outlook on their position.

Apart from the fact that I'm nowhere near as optimistic about the physical conditioning of either King or Ottens (especially in a longer-term sense), I think the above illustrates exactly what flawed thinking may be occurring.

I think it's flat out unreasonable to expect King or Ottens to shoulder on ruck responsibilities till they finally bow out, then only hand on the reigns to Blakey or even West. The transition period that takes place during the changing of the guard between rucks is already time consuming as it is. The fact that we aren't giving the future much thought now (in both playing the likes of Blake or continuing to replenish our ruck stocks to a healthy number) wouldn't be helping.

If Wells and co didn't think there was one prospect out there this year that warranted a spot on the list, then I can live with that. But I'm more inclined to think the ruck situation at our club simply isn't being taken with much urgency as it should be, perhaps due to what I think is the false hope placed in the bodies of King/Ottens.

 

[year of the cat]

Apart from the fact that I'm nowhere near as optimistic about the physical conditioning of either King or Ottens (especially in a longer-term sense), I think the above illustrates exactly what flawed thinking may be occurring.

I think it's flat out unreasonable to expect King or Ottens to shoulder on ruck responsibilities till they finally bow out, then only hand on the reigns to Blakey or even West. The transition period that takes place during the changing of the guard between rucks is already time consuming as it is. The fact that we aren't giving the future much thought now (in both playing the likes of Blake or continuing to replenish our ruck stocks to a healthy number) wouldn't be helping.

If Wells and co didn't think there was one prospect out there this year that warranted a spot on the list, then I can live with that. But I'm more inclined to think the ruck situation at our club simply isn't being taken with much urgency as it should be, perhaps due to what I think is the false hope placed in the bodies of King/Ottens.

It is pretty obvious that the club has targetted leadership and leg speed as the two areas that they feel we are most deficient in. Aside from Leuenberger (who wasn't available to us anyway) I don't think the available rucks this year warranted to be taken ahead of any of the picks we took in the national draft. As for taking a speculative big man either with our last pick or in the rookie draft, I reckon our experience with developing tall players (drafted late) is pretty poor.

Next years draft is reputed to have more talented ruckman available and it would be surprising if another one wasn't taken then, particularly if Blake and West do not continue to develop as hoped.

 

[goodie]

Davenport will get better for you guys. I think this year was only his third or fourth year of afl. He use to play for my club nilma darnum before he went down to play VFL for you guys.