Autopsy Round 7 loss, post-game comments here please

[TradeDraft]

VFL showing lot more Effort

 

[lenny20]

A great snapshot of where we're at: a completely broken team. Nothing functions properly for any sustained period of time, and if it does, we find a way to shut it down.

The sheer incompetence of the coaching panel permeates all areas of our football club: gameplan (or lack thereof), opposition analysis, team selection, player motivation. All league-worst.

A coach should be judged first and foremost on his gameplan - that, primarily, is what separates his team from the others out there, what differentiates them, gives them the best chance of victory. Under Buckley, we've transformed from a side that was premiership-standard tactically to a side that the lowly St Kilda Football Club recognised were so bad structurally that they refused to get enthused about their victory over us. We've been beaten in gameplan to the point of embarrassment by a who's who of mediocrity: Richmond, St Kilda, Melbourne, and now Carlton - as well as mercilessly smashed by some good teams in Sydney and West Coast. Whether the fault lies in the gameplan itself, in the players' ability to carry it out, or in a failure of instruction and teaching, it matters little - all these failings come back to reflect poorly on a coach who is either peddling substandard tactics, unable to communicate with the players, or dismantling a premiership team to fill it with players incapable of executing a gameplan. All roads lead to Nathan.

Our opposition analysis and subsequent team selection have been baffling at many points over the past few years, but this week's effort takes the incompetence cake. The decision to drop Nathan Brown after one poor game - the man was a sole shining light in our beleaguered defence last season - is simply jaw-dropping. Unsurprisingly, we get dominated in the air by Brown's perfect matchup in the lumbering gorilla Casboult, who took contested grab after contested grab over our behemoth defenders Brayden Maynard, Josh Smith and Jeremy Howe. The incompetence would be breathtaking if it wasn't so embarrassing.

And finally, the unrelenting, stubborn refusal to offer any motivation to the playing group is indicative of a man who is entirely out of touch with his players. The soulless mantra of "bring your own motivation" may well have worked for a perfection-drive robot like Nathan himself, but for regular human beings it's completely ineffective and entirely unacceptable. You can count the Collingwood players who are capable of getting themselves up for a match mentally without any assistance from the coach on one hand - and even then, you have to wonder whether they, too, wouldn't be better served by some external pressure to perform provided by the coaching group. That sort of Hawthorn or Sydney-like dedication where every man is prepared to fearlessly attack the football with 100% commitment, to put his body on the line, to die for his teammates - it simply can't be manufactured when you're told that, as a player, you have to "bring our own motivation". Bucks' system means that every single one of our 22 are quite literally on different pages. It's no great surprise that we'd be playing like that, then.

So, league-worst in gameplan, league-worst in opposition analysis, league-worst in player motivation and guidance. Bucks has got the boys marching to the beat of 22 individual drums. He simply must go, his near-robotic perfectionist mindset is unable to reconcile regular human beings. Unfortunately he's too proud to lay down his arms, and the boys' club hierarchy will make removing him exceedingly difficult.

 

[JackoSpades]

Brisbane will bend us over, and I don't think we will stand back up for the rest of season.
BYO LUBE!

 

[DinoSoar]

As I said in the gameday thread, no 2 way running and stagnant field positioning. The players just aren't running and spreading so we have the resultant crap ball movement - for some reason, they are just not moving and neither getting in the right places or defending the ball.

 

[MLG23]

Fold the club

 

[McOrist]

Another memorable game from Broomhead. No idea how he keeps getting a game. "...but, but, but he has such great skills!". Pity he can't get the ball or show any desperation.

 

[Captain Embubry]

Just disgusted after today. Ive been trying to be positive all season and stay behind Bucks. But im done now. Something has to change.

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[jmac70]

Agree

Coaching suicide to have Cloke and Brown on the sidelines and conced the experience to them. Makes our youth explanations pretty irrelevant when we select that way

Cloke would have been handy today.

 

[jmac70]

A great snapshot of where we're at: a completely broken team. Nothing functions properly for any sustained period of time, and if it does, we find a way to shut it down.

The sheer incompetence of the coaching panel permeates all areas of our football club: gameplan (or lack thereof), opposition analysis, team selection, player motivation. All league-worst.

A coach should be judged first and foremost on his gameplan - that, primarily, is what separates his team from the others out there, what differentiates them, gives them the best chance of victory. Under Buckley, we've transformed from a side that was premiership-standard tactically to a side that the lowly St Kilda Football Club recognised were so bad structurally that they refused to get enthused about their victory over us. We've been beaten in gameplan to the point of embarrassment by a who's who of mediocrity: Richmond, St Kilda, Melbourne, and now Carlton - as well as mercilessly smashed by some good teams in Sydney and West Coast. Whether the fault lies in the gameplan itself, in the players' ability to carry it out, or in a failure of instruction and teaching, it matters little - all these failings come back to reflect poorly on a coach who is either peddling substandard tactics, unable to communicate with the players, or dismantling a premiership team to fill it with players incapable of executing a gameplan. All roads lead to Nathan.

Our opposition analysis and subsequent team selection have been baffling at many points over the past few years, but this week's effort takes the incompetence cake. The decision to drop Nathan Brown after one poor game - the man was a sole shining light in our beleaguered defence last season - is simply jaw-dropping. Unsurprisingly, we get dominated in the air by Brown's perfect matchup in the lumbering gorilla Casboult, who took contested grab after contested grab over our behemoth defenders Brayden Maynard, Josh Smith and Jeremy Howe. The incompetence would be breathtaking if it wasn't so embarrassing.

And finally, the unrelenting, stubborn refusal to offer any motivation to the playing group is indicative of a man who is entirely out of touch with his players. The soulless mantra of "bring your own motivation" may well have worked for a perfection-drive robot like Nathan himself, but for regular human beings it's completely ineffective and entirely unacceptable. You can count the Collingwood players who are capable of getting themselves up for a match mentally without any assistance from the coach on one hand - and even then, you have to wonder whether they, too, wouldn't be better served by some external pressure to perform provided by the coaching group. That sort of Hawthorn or Sydney-like dedication where every man is prepared to fearlessly attack the football with 100% commitment, to put his body on the line, to die for his teammates - it simply can't be manufactured when you're told that, as a player, you have to "bring our own motivation". Bucks' system means that every single one of our 22 are quite literally on different pages. It's no great surprise that we'd be playing like that, then.

So, league-worst in gameplan, league-worst in opposition analysis, league-worst in player motivation and guidance. Bucks has got the boys marching to the beat of 22 individual drums. He simply must go, his near-robotic perfectionist mindset is unable to reconcile regular human beings. Unfortunately he's too proud to lay down his arms, and the boys' club hierarchy will make removing him exceedingly difficult.

This

 

[SuperSteele22]

Disappointed rather than angry. Its a bitter pill to swallow but we are a bottom four football side. Plain and simple.

Our problems are aplenty but the biggest is simply that we have far too many players that only run one way. How many times today can we honestly recall any of our mids or forwards busting their arse to go help out in defense when it was needed? Very f***ing few. It was clear right from the NAB Cup that all preseason far too much an emphasis was put on attacking, and nowhere enough on defense.

Didn't think I'd be saying this at the start of the year but Brisbane at the Gabba next week could be ugly.

 

[Magpiemack]

We are the youngest team because of CHOICE. Had Cloke and Brown been selected we wouldn't have been the youngest side this round. We still had a better team than Carlton, Melbourne and St. Kilda and we managed to loose all of those games.

Lack of experience should be no excuse.

Had a look at our injury list?

 

[Magpiemack]

Disappointed rather than angry. Its a bitter pill to swallow but we are a bottom four football side. Plain and simple.

Our problems are aplenty but the biggest is simply that we have far too many players that only run one way. How many times today can we honestly recall any of our mids or forwards busting their arse to go help out in defense when it was needed? Very f***ing few. It was clear right from the NAB Cup that all preseason far too much an emphasis was put on attacking, and nowhere enough on defense.

Didn't think I'd be saying this at the start of the year but Brisbane at the Gabba next week could be ugly.

 

[ThexderX]

A great snapshot of where we're at: a completely broken team. Nothing functions properly for any sustained period of time, and if it does, we find a way to shut it down.

The sheer incompetence of the coaching panel permeates all areas of our football club: gameplan (or lack thereof), opposition analysis, team selection, player motivation. All league-worst.

A coach should be judged first and foremost on his gameplan - that, primarily, is what separates his team from the others out there, what differentiates them, gives them the best chance of victory. Under Buckley, we've transformed from a side that was premiership-standard tactically to a side that the lowly St Kilda Football Club recognised were so bad structurally that they refused to get enthused about their victory over us. We've been beaten in gameplan to the point of embarrassment by a who's who of mediocrity: Richmond, St Kilda, Melbourne, and now Carlton - as well as mercilessly smashed by some good teams in Sydney and West Coast. Whether the fault lies in the gameplan itself, in the players' ability to carry it out, or in a failure of instruction and teaching, it matters little - all these failings come back to reflect poorly on a coach who is either peddling substandard tactics, unable to communicate with the players, or dismantling a premiership team to fill it with players incapable of executing a gameplan. All roads lead to Nathan.

Our opposition analysis and subsequent team selection have been baffling at many points over the past few years, but this week's effort takes the incompetence cake. The decision to drop Nathan Brown after one poor game - the man was a sole shining light in our beleaguered defence last season - is simply jaw-dropping. Unsurprisingly, we get dominated in the air by Brown's perfect matchup in the lumbering gorilla Casboult, who took contested grab after contested grab over our behemoth defenders Brayden Maynard, Josh Smith and Jeremy Howe. The incompetence would be breathtaking if it wasn't so embarrassing.

And finally, the unrelenting, stubborn refusal to offer any motivation to the playing group is indicative of a man who is entirely out of touch with his players. The soulless mantra of "bring your own motivation" may well have worked for a perfection-drive robot like Nathan himself, but for regular human beings it's completely ineffective and entirely unacceptable. You can count the Collingwood players who are capable of getting themselves up for a match mentally without any assistance from the coach on one hand - and even then, you have to wonder whether they, too, wouldn't be better served by some external pressure to perform provided by the coaching group. That sort of Hawthorn or Sydney-like dedication where every man is prepared to fearlessly attack the football with 100% commitment, to put his body on the line, to die for his teammates - it simply can't be manufactured when you're told that, as a player, you have to "bring our own motivation". Bucks' system means that every single one of our 22 are quite literally on different pages. It's no great surprise that we'd be playing like that, then.

So, league-worst in gameplan, league-worst in opposition analysis, league-worst in player motivation and guidance. Bucks has got the boys marching to the beat of 22 individual drums. He simply must go, his near-robotic perfectionist mindset is unable to reconcile regular human beings. Unfortunately he's too proud to lay down his arms, and the boys' club hierarchy will make removing him exceedingly difficult.

Perfect succinct summary mate...spot on!!!

 

[SBYM]

Can't say I'm unhappy with how it panned out...but srsly, that Moore kid...any chance of a trade?

Gun.

 

[Magpiemack]

Disappointed rather than angry. Its a bitter pill to swallow but we are a bottom four football side. Plain and simple.

Our problems are aplenty but the biggest is simply that we have far too many players that only run one way. How many times today can we honestly recall any of our mids or forwards busting their arse to go help out in defense when it was needed? Very f***ing few. It was clear right from the NAB Cup that all preseason far too much an emphasis was put on attacking, and nowhere enough on defense.

Didn't think I'd be saying this at the start of the year but Brisbane at the Gabba next week could be ugly.

I have an idea. When we get up to Bris Vegas let's give them Aish back.

 

[SuperSteele22]

Can't say I'm unhappy with how it panned out...but srsly, that Moore kid...any chance of a trade?

Gun.

Sad state of affairs when the only bloke who looked like he was trying to will his team over the line was a bloke playing his 16th game, isn't it?

Congrats on the win

 

[TradeDraft]

Can't say I'm unhappy with how it panned out...but srsly, that Moore kid...any chance of a trade?

Gun.

No Way in Hell

 

[SBYM]

Sad state of affairs when the only bloke who looked like he was trying to will his team over the line was a bloke playing his 16th game, isn't it?

Congrats on the win

Cheers dude. Seriously...he was ducking impressive. No one talks about him either...

 

[TradeDraft]

I have an idea. When we get up there let's give them Aish back.

Can we give Treloar back to get Picks back then

 

[PieBeast]

 

[sirlothie]

This

You did the right thing not going.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Brisbane will bend us over, and I don't think we will stand back up for the rest of season.
BYO LUBE!

Why does football discussion have to be compared to rough anal sex? There's just no need for it.

 

[Gone Critical]

Can't say I'm unhappy with how it panned out...but srsly, that Moore kid...any chance of a trade?

Gun.

He may want it in a season or two if he gets sick of being a one man forward line.

 

[Magpiemack]

Can we give Treloar back to get Picks back then

Are you serious? Treloar isn't our problem...

 

[Frankie23]

A great snapshot of where we're at: a completely broken team. Nothing functions properly for any sustained period of time, and if it does, we find a way to shut it down.

The sheer incompetence of the coaching panel permeates all areas of our football club: gameplan (or lack thereof), opposition analysis, team selection, player motivation. All league-worst.

A coach should be judged first and foremost on his gameplan - that, primarily, is what separates his team from the others out there, what differentiates them, gives them the best chance of victory. Under Buckley, we've transformed from a side that was premiership-standard tactically to a side that the lowly St Kilda Football Club recognised were so bad structurally that they refused to get enthused about their victory over us. We've been beaten in gameplan to the point of embarrassment by a who's who of mediocrity: Richmond, St Kilda, Melbourne, and now Carlton - as well as mercilessly smashed by some good teams in Sydney and West Coast. Whether the fault lies in the gameplan itself, in the players' ability to carry it out, or in a failure of instruction and teaching, it matters little - all these failings come back to reflect poorly on a coach who is either peddling substandard tactics, unable to communicate with the players, or dismantling a premiership team to fill it with players incapable of executing a gameplan. All roads lead to Nathan.

Our opposition analysis and subsequent team selection have been baffling at many points over the past few years, but this week's effort takes the incompetence cake. The decision to drop Nathan Brown after one poor game - the man was a sole shining light in our beleaguered defence last season - is simply jaw-dropping. Unsurprisingly, we get dominated in the air by Brown's perfect matchup in the lumbering gorilla Casboult, who took contested grab after contested grab over our behemoth defenders Brayden Maynard, Josh Smith and Jeremy Howe. The incompetence would be breathtaking if it wasn't so embarrassing.

And finally, the unrelenting, stubborn refusal to offer any motivation to the playing group is indicative of a man who is entirely out of touch with his players. The soulless mantra of "bring your own motivation" may well have worked for a perfection-drive robot like Nathan himself, but for regular human beings it's completely ineffective and entirely unacceptable. You can count the Collingwood players who are capable of getting themselves up for a match mentally without any assistance from the coach on one hand - and even then, you have to wonder whether they, too, wouldn't be better served by some external pressure to perform provided by the coaching group. That sort of Hawthorn or Sydney-like dedication where every man is prepared to fearlessly attack the football with 100% commitment, to put his body on the line, to die for his teammates - it simply can't be manufactured when you're told that, as a player, you have to "bring our own motivation". Bucks' system means that every single one of our 22 are quite literally on different pages. It's no great surprise that we'd be playing like that, then.

So, league-worst in gameplan, league-worst in opposition analysis, league-worst in player motivation and guidance. Bucks has got the boys marching to the beat of 22 individual drums. He simply must go, his near-robotic perfectionist mindset is unable to reconcile regular human beings. Unfortunately he's too proud to lay down his arms, and the boys' club hierarchy will make removing him exceedingly difficult.

Sensational post.