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Hey guys its that time of the year for tiger fans and i just wanted to know if any of you have seen ryan griffen play at all. I heard the tigers are interseted in him. So if you have seen him what pick do u think he is worth to go at and give us a review of him please.
Thanks.

Also do u think he will make it as an awesome player or not?
 
Originally posted by dyertribe
Stiffy_18's wet dreams board.
:D

wrennyboy, I have not seen him play this year at all but I havve seen him play last year and he was as skinny as they come but always had good skills and a footy brain. Nice size, good pace and real leader.

I think he will go top 5 and IMHO will make a gun down the track.

I want him at the Crows :D
 
Stiffy_18 said:
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wrennyboy, I have not seen him play this year at all but I havve seen him play last year and he was as skinny as they come but always had good skills and a footy brain. Nice size, good pace and real leader.

I think he will go top 5 and IMHO will make a gun down the track.

I want him at the Crows :D

If you can Stiffy, go and watch him play somewhere before the seasons out. The kid is an outstanding talent.

Saw him for the second time against Port 3 weeks back at Noarlunga. Wow! Played on a back flank and just dominated...seems to be a natural leader, maturity way above his experience. Hes gonna be something special.

So good I want Port to trade for a top 5 pick so we can grab him.
 

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What type of player is Griffen? IMO we HAVE to take the best inside midfielder available with our first pick.

Also, whats he like in comparison to Monfries?
 
dyertribe said:
McLeod for Ottens + a pick
A pick + Perrie/Burton for Cooney + Eagleton

?
Do not want Eagleton!

Perrie & Burton for Cooney, hell yes.
Ottens for Biglands & draft pick received from Stenglein trade

I'd keep Macleod a season under the new coach - no change then trade.
 
Wayne's-World said:
Do not want Eagleton!.

Why?!! He's an in and under, goalscoring midfielder with a huge left foot - also has a quality stopping game. In our midfield and back home he'd be a real asset. Would easily make the SA Origin side if that concept was still alive.

I don't understand why so many people here don't rate him - he's everything we expect of Matthew "Look at my hair!" Bode but loads more - quality disposal, consistency, hardness and with a much greater workrate.

Wayne's-World said:
Perrie & Burton for Cooney, hell yes.

They'd expect a decent pick as part of any deal.

Wayne's-World said:
Ottens for Biglands & draft pick received from Stenglein trade

Biglands + a second-rounder? They'd laugh at us.

Wayne's-World said:
I'd keep Macleod a season under the new coach - no change then trade

McLeod will be worth nothing in a season, especially if he has another stinker - 3 mediocre seasons in-a-row and approaching 30?
 
Macca19 said:
If you can Stiffy, go and watch him play somewhere before the seasons out. The kid is an outstanding talent.

Saw him for the second time against Port 3 weeks back at Noarlunga. Wow! Played on a back flank and just dominated...seems to be a natural leader, maturity way above his experience. Hes gonna be something special.

So good I want Port to trade for a top 5 pick so we can grab him.
I will try and get to one fo the games before the season is out.

Macca19, you watch a fair bit of SANFL footy and I was wondering how would you compare Cooney last year for Westies and Griffen this year for the Panthers.

I get the feeling that Griffen has been more impresive this year for the Panthers than Cooney was for the Bloods last year.

Thoughts??????
 
Stiffy_18 said:

I just think my suggestions are more realistic - no offence intended WW.

There is no way in hell Richmond or the Dogs would accept second best in such trade deals - we have to start being ruthless and be more prepared to give to get (but not in a ******ed way like the Carey bomb).
 
dyertribe said:
I just think my suggestions are more realistic - no offence intended WW.

There is no way in hell Richmond or the Dogs would accept second best in such trade deals - we have to start being ruthless and be more prepared to give to get (but not in a ******ed way like the Carey bomb).
I agree.

Just put yourself in Richmonds shoes and ask will you expect Biglands and 2nd rounder for Ottens

The answer would be a big fat no.
 

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Wayne's-World said:
Do not want Eagleton!

Perrie & Burton for Cooney, hell yes.
Ottens for Biglands & draft pick received from Stenglein trade

I'd keep Macleod a season under the new coach - no change then trade.

even though we are getting ottens in this deal there is no way we can afford to lose biglands, we need to hold onto him for ruck, clarke has one more season, then you are left with hudson, ottens and possibly andrews....

ottens isnt a lead ruckman, he is a forward who can pinch hit in the ruck occasionally

hudson is still raw and developing as a player and needs time to get better

clarke will retire at end of the next season leaving only the two above with andrews and andrews is still developing and only playing reserves for glenelg who are 2nd to bottom

it is all right to say we are gonig to draft someone like wood in the draft but wood will need more time than andrews to develop into an afl standard ruckmen.

but the bottom line is richmond although they are crap traders wont take biglands for ottens and a 2nd round pick as DT n stiffy said
 
dyertribe said:
Why?!! He's an in and under, goalscoring midfielder with a huge left foot - also has a quality stopping game. In our midfield and back home he'd be a real asset. Would easily make the SA Origin side if that concept was still alive.

I don't understand why so many people here don't rate him - he's everything we expect of Matthew "Look at my hair!" Bode but loads more - quality disposal, consistency, hardness and with a much greater workrate.
Excuse me if I have the wrong person, but didn't you say we should not recruit anyone over 25 (or was that SD?)
Eagleton nearly was delisted at the end of 2002, is 27 next year, and would not be considered by the AFC under any circumstances.
;)
 
Stiffy_18 said:
I agree.

Just put yourself in Richmonds shoes and ask will you expect Biglands and 2nd rounder for Ottens

The answer would be a big fat no.
Or Ottens could go to Hawthorn by goung into the draft.
And that is a definite possibility (pick 3 for Ottens?) given Everitt is getting on, no Ruckman in the wings, shortage of Quality KPP? - Definite possibility.
 
RooDog said:
even though we are getting ottens in this deal there is no way we can afford to lose biglands, we need to hold onto him for ruck, clarke has one more season, then you are left with hudson, ottens and possibly andrews....

it is all right to say we are gonig to draft someone like wood in the draft but wood will need more time than andrews to develop into an afl standard ruckmen.

but the bottom line is richmond although they are crap traders wont take biglands for ottens and a 2nd round pick as DT n stiffy said
Point of correction guys - I said Biglands and draft pick from Stenglein, I didn't say 2 nd round.
With the first round going so deep due to priority picks, I would say a late first round for Stenglein.

Having said that I begrudgingly agree with holding Biglands.
But I also have difficulty understanding why we would use our 1st round pick (#7) on Wood or any Ruckman given it'll be 3 years min b4 we see a return.
IMO the first pick has to be a midfielder!
 
Wayne's-World said:
Or Ottens could go to Hawthorn by goung into the draft.
And that is a definite possibility (pick 3 for Ottens?) given Everitt is getting on, no Ruckman in the wings, shortage of Quality KPP? - Definite possibility.
If you are thinking Richmond will fall for that trick then I think you are very mistaken.

The chances of Ottens doing a Stevens are non-existant
 

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Wayne's-World said:
Point of correction guys - I said Biglands and draft pick from Stenglein, I didn't say 2 nd round.
With the first round going so deep due to priority picks, I would say a late first round for Stenglein.

Having said that I begrudgingly agree with holding Biglands.
But I also have difficulty understanding why we would use our 1st round pick (#7) on Wood or any Ruckman given it'll be 3 years min b4 we see a return.
IMO the first pick has to be a midfielder!


i owe you an apology then... i was just asuming we would get a 2nd rounder for stinger and i didnt realise we shared the same opinion on drafting a ruckman either :D so yeah its all cool then :p
 
Stiffy_18 said:
If you are thinking Richmond will fall for that trick then I think you are very mistaken.

The chances of Ottens doing a Stevens are non-existant
Never say never, particularly in the AFL business where emotion often overules good judgement.

If the cheque is big enough, Ottens may just say he needs a trade.

BTW I don't think he has any intention of returning to SA ;)
 
Stiffy_18 said:
I will try and get to one fo the games before the season is out.

Macca19, you watch a fair bit of SANFL footy and I was wondering how would you compare Cooney last year for Westies and Griffen this year for the Panthers.

I get the feeling that Griffen has been more impresive this year for the Panthers than Cooney was for the Bloods last year.

Thoughts??????

Id rate Griffen higher. Hes been mor consistent, shown more maturity in his football. Cooney was alright in the SANFL last year but was inconsistent and pulled off a few freaky things. Griffen is a different sort of player but he does seem to go in and get the ball a lot more than Cooney did.

Overall...id rate Griffen higher than Cooney.
 
Macca and Stiffy, I saw Griffen yesterday and he looks very good. I'd agree that he is developing quicker than Cooney, who only played a few SANFL league games last year. I think we saw yesterday that Cooney will get better and finish up being a very good player and I think Griffen will be as well. I also heard that the Bulldogs are very interested in one of Westies Under 17 players.
 
Macca19 said:
Id rate Griffen higher. Hes been mor consistent, shown more maturity in his football. Cooney was alright in the SANFL last year but was inconsistent and pulled off a few freaky things. Griffen is a different sort of player but he does seem to go in and get the ball a lot more than Cooney did.

Overall...id rate Griffen higher than Cooney.
Thanks for that.

I thought that would be your answer. Speaking to a few people and looking at his stats, it would appear that he is more consistent than Cooney was Last year.

Its freaky when you think Griffen made his senior debut as a 16 year old and is now an integral part of South Adelaide team
 
Wayne's-World said:
Do not want Eagleton!

Perrie & Burton for Cooney, hell yes.
Ottens for Biglands & draft pick received from Stenglein trade

I'd keep Macleod a season under the new coach - no change then trade.
Folks in SA mightn't see as much of the bulldogs as we Vics but Eagleton has had a super season in an average side. Good last year as well. Hard at it,tackles well,aweome long left foot and has really worked on his engine over the last 2-3 seasons. Still reasonably young and if he wants to go home,you should grab him,much better player than when he left.
 

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