Sam Hunt

[Jimmy Gwilt]

keep as rookie - delist - or upgrade
what needs to be done

 

[cats2rise]

I think upgrade, and delist Spencer.

 

[costanza23]

I think upgrade, and delist Spencer.

Spot on.

 

[Cats!!]

Delist, Spencers contract still has a year on it. We don't need any more tall defenders. espesially if we try to groom playfair into a defender.

 

[cats2rise]

But what if Playfair does not work?!

Hunt showed something in the VFL in the last 5-6 games. Well I thought so anyway.

 

[Cats!!]

But what if Playfair does not work?!

Hunt showed something in the VFL in the last 5-6 games. Well I thought so anyway.

Then we have as key backmen Harley, Scarlett, Egan, Lonergan (if he decides to play on), Mooney can go back. It may be worth keeping him if Lonergan doesn't play on.

 

[Turbocat]

Hunt has more of what I want as an option across half back. Mobility with size that can deliver the ball without looking likely to muff the kick or looking like they are running in quicksand . We currently have a man thought by some as the best FB in the AFL , another who has just been appointed Captain and another who has come in and shown himself capable of covering a key position forward. What we are talking about is our 4th tall defender.

So…choose..

One can be nice , be friendly and continue to be mediocre or be willing to be thought of as bastards , willing to be hard and strive to improve.

Honour MS his contract in the VFL. If he doesn’t like that , make an arrangement and pay him out , obviously if a trade can be arranged then fine but otherwise it time to be mentally tough..There are only so many spots and we need less potential talls and more potential smalls. Mathew may well be a fine bloke and a great bloke around the club but IMO he is at least one decade late with his body shape and athletic mobility. I really do wish him well , I’d love to see go on and play 100 AFL games with someone but for us its time to move on

 

[Big Nasty]

Keep Hunt, get rid of Spencer

 

[jim boy]

I don't think we can pay Spencer out, while I'm far from certain, if we delist him then next year's salary will be added to this year's salary cap. As we are at 100% already, then that we would tip us over and the penalty could be severe for a premeditated breach, stripping us of a first pick for example.

 

[JUBJUB]

I think upgrade, and delist Spencer.

Duck !!!!
There's a spanner headed in your direction.

 

[Turbocat]

I don't think we can pay Spencer out, while I'm far from certain, if we delist him then next year's salary will be added to this year's salary cap. As we are at 100% already, then that we would tip us over and the penalty could be severe for a premeditated breach, stripping us of a first pick for example.

Jim surely a guy who has played as little MS cant be on a huge contract. The 100% changes from year to year , Riccardi and Kingsley going would change it as would new contracts. With a new batch of first year kids this year I'd be suprised if we could afford to pay his contract out.

 

[jim boy]

Jim surely a guy who has played as little MS cant be on a huge contract. The 100% changes from year to year , Riccardi and Kingsley going would change it as would new contracts. With a new batch of first year kids this year I'd be suprised if we could afford to pay his contract out.

The point I'm making is that if we delist him, then next year's salary for MS will be added to this year's salary cap because it is still 2006. We have already reached 100% for this year and if we terminate MS's contract with a year left to run, then the amount owing, even if only $100, will go onto this year's Salary Cap, pushing us over the 100% mark. The retirements of Riccardi and Kingsley are irrelevant as that does not affect the Salary Cap this year.

 

[mckinale]

The point I'm making is that if we delist him, then next year's salary for MS will be added to this year's salary cap because it is still 2006. We have already reached 100% for this year and if we terminate MS's contract with a year left to run, then the amount owing, even if only $100, will go onto this year's Salary Cap, pushing us over the 100% mark. The retirements of Riccardi and Kingsley are irrelevant as that does not affect the Salary Cap this year.

So what you're saying is we can't delist anyone in contract for next year without being over Last Years salary cap

 

[Turbocat]

The point I'm making is that if we delist him, then next year's salary for MS will be added to this year's salary cap because it is still 2006. We have already reached 100% for this year and if we terminate MS's contract with a year left to run, then the amount owing, even if only $100, will go onto this year's Salary Cap, pushing us over the 100% mark. The retirements of Riccardi and Kingsley are irrelevant as that does not affect the Salary Cap this year.

I think you will find any pay outs will go into next years cap. As with Voss in Brisbane , even when he is not on their list in 07 the payout figure goes into the 07 cap.

 

[Seb]

I think you will find any pay outs will go into next years cap. As with Voss in Brisbane , even when he is not on their list in 07 the payout figure goes into the 07 cap.

That was my understanding as well.

Seems ludicrous to suggest delisting him would be part of the 2006 salaries.

 

[jim boy]

That was my understanding as well.

Seems ludicrous to suggest delisting him would be part of the 2006 salaries.

It could be that way to prevent clubs from coming to arrangements with highly paid players to effectively spread out their payments to the year beyond their life as a footballer. Eg we could have come to an arrangement with Riccardi this year for a two year contract at half rate. At the end of the first year we delist him and defer half the payment to the next year.

Voss isn't really relevant as he willingly retired and presumably is happy to forego next year's salary. MS, if he goes, is getting pushed.

 

[Turbocat]

Voss isn't really relevant as he willingly retired and presumably is happy to forego next year's salary. MS, if he goes, is getting pushed.

Voss is happy to go ..after coming to an agreement on the payment on his last year of a very backended contract. He was due close to 1.0M for 07 and if he and the Lions couldnt come to an agreement then Im sure he would of stayed around. Make no mistake Michael Voss will be Brisbanes highest paid player in 07 even when he isnt on their list

 

[ablettthegun]

That was my understanding as well.

Seems ludicrous to suggest delisting him would be part of the 2006 salaries.

If spencer is on more than the minimum and a hotdog and a coke we need help. This guy is slower than a wet week and rivals charlie gardner as the biggest dud on our list.
Im praying McCarthy, Spencer, Koula, Gardner, Kingsley are gone.
Chances to hunt grima and slade and keep big tom on the list.

 

[Tim_#8]

I think if Lonergan retires then Sam Hunt will take his place if he doesnt then he will unfortuantly get the chop. I'd prefer him over Spencer by a country mile also over Henry

 

[Gazzajr is god]

Tom would of got delisted if he hadn't got hurt.

Spence MUST be axed regardless of the consequences to salary cap. He has not chance of getting a game next year so theres no point keeping him.
Hunt reads the game well and with abit more development could challenge Eags for a spot. (plus improve disposal)
Hopefully now bomber has been released of some duties, we may see abit more variety. Maybe try Egan up forward for a quarter if things don't go to plan.

 

[jim boy]

I think you will find any pay outs will go into next years cap. As with Voss in Brisbane , even when he is not on their list in 07 the payout figure goes into the 07 cap.

From what I understand Voss will be on the 07 list for this reason, otherwise his payout of 900,000 would be added on to this years cap pushing the Lions over.