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Recommitted Sam Walsh [Signed until 2026]

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The 747 said:
Good signing for Carlton - and one they had to make. Cripps, Walsh, McKay all locked away. Is Wietering locked as well?
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Mckay is not locked away at all.

He's a free agent at the end of next season.

Someone is getting tipped out at Carlton, thats for sure.

North make the most sense for Mckay, especially considering Goldstein and Cunnington will be gone by then.
 
EBERT THE KING said:
Mckay is not locked away at all.

He's a free agent at the end of next season.

Someone is getting tipped out at Carlton, thats for sure.

North make the most sense for Mckay, especially considering Goldstein and Cunnington will be gone by then.
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Should free up a million dollars for Carlton to take Serong
 
EBERT THE KING said:
Mckay is not locked away at all.

He's a free agent at the end of next season.

Someone is getting tipped out at Carlton, thats for sure.

North make the most sense for Mckay, especially considering Goldstein and Cunnington will be gone by then.
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Lol. That's not going to happen.
 

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HereComesJuddy said:
Not sure this is anything to do with Sam Walsh. Feel free to create another thread though
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Has everything to do with Walsh.

In my opinion, on current trajectory, Sam Walsh deserves to be rewarded with the most lucrative contract ($ per season) of all time, once this four year contract expires, so in a salary capped league, that has significant ramifications.

Carlton have notoriously overpaid players (Williams, Curnow, Martin, McGovern) so something needs to change in the current list, in order to accomodate the very good players coming up for renewal over the next four years.
 
juss said:
He could be, what I'm saying is he'll still get a big pay day even with staying. He's not likely to accept 800k a year a again for a long term deal if he wins a few AAs, a Brownlow, etc.

The Blues will need to pay more to keep him which is fine. There's taking unders, and then there's low balling players.

Dusty took unders to stay at Richmond compared with what he could have got from North, but it doesn't mean we didn't have to pay up a good offer to respect his standing in the game.

Whereever he plays, it's his 25-30 year old contract that is probably his big pay day. His manager will make sure he knows this, and he'd be illadvised to throw away money given AFL players have about 15 years to capitalise.
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Very few players get paid over a million a year.

We probably said similar about Cripps when we signed him on his previous contract. You always expect some linear progression, but it doesn't always come and a players contract value doesn't necessarily line up perfectly with their actual or market value.

I'm actually a little surprised it is as much as 800k - it's not as though he isn't worth it, but few players of his age would be earning anywhere near what he is. I expected maybe 650k-700k and his next contract would then sit at 800k-850k pa.

If the Blues improve through the duration of this contract I doubt his contract will increase much at all.
 
EBERT THE KING said:
Has everything to do with Walsh.

In my opinion, on current trajectory, Sam Walsh deserves to be rewarded with the most lucrative contract ($ per season) of all time, once this four year contract expires, so in a salary capped league, that has significant ramifications.

Carlton have notoriously overpaid players (Williams, Curnow, Martin, McGovern) so something needs to change in the current list, in order to accomodate the very good players coming up for renewal over the next four years.
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Walsh, McKay and Weitering are all signed up. The guys you mentioned (besides Williams) don't have contracts that extend beyond Sam Walsh's current deal.

The only player who needs to be signed up in the next couple of years is McKay, who is OOC in 2023 - at the exact time McGovern's contract comes off our books.

Now Walsh has extended long term the Blues are sitting pretty in the next few years.
 
La Dispute said:
Very few players get paid over a million a year.

We probably said similar about Cripps when we signed him on his previous contract. You always expect some linear progression, but it doesn't always come and a players contract value doesn't necessarily line up perfectly with their actual or market value.

I'm actually a little surprised it is as much as 800k - it's not as though he isn't worth it, but few players of his age would be earning anywhere near what he is. I expected maybe 650k-700k and his next contract would then sit at 800k-850k pa.

If the Blues improve through the duration of this contract I doubt his contract will increase much at all.
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I guess we are basing predictions on his expected level at his peak. Sure if he becomes just a good - very good mid then he might not be on a million a year, but if he follows a progressive path, who's to say he's not a 3x AA and Brownlow medallist, maybe at a big stretch a league MVP by 26?

That's best case scenario and the Blues would actually want that, but if it does happen, he's not signing anywhere for $800k a year as his next contract.
 
EBERT THE KING said:
Has everything to do with Walsh.

In my opinion, on current trajectory, Sam Walsh deserves to be rewarded with the most lucrative contract ($ per season) of all time, once this four year contract expires, so in a salary capped league, that has significant ramifications.

Carlton have notoriously overpaid players (Williams, Curnow, Martin, McGovern) so something needs to change in the current list, in order to accomodate the very good players coming up for renewal over the next four years.
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Having players like Cerra willing to come and get less money helps
 

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EBERT THE KING said:
Well there you go. A bloke Carlton made the highest paid player in the comp in 2020 is on the scrapheap by 2024.

They will also get nothing for Mcgovern, so a first round compo pick for Mckay might be attractive.
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Well, both of those signings were poor decisions. That doesn't mean that Carlton has to continue making poor decisions....
 
juss said:
I guess we are basing predictions on his expected level at his peak. Sure if he becomes just a good - very good mid then he might not be on a million a year, but if he follows a progressive path, who's to say he's not a 3x AA and Brownlow medallist, maybe at a big stretch a league MVP by 26?

That's best case scenario and the Blues would actually want that, but if it does happen, he's not signing anywhere for $800k a year as his next contract.
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I'm not sure how many more gears he's got to go.

He's already dragging the Blues over the line by himself, has clocked up a Top 5 Brownlow finish and is comfortably the best Carlton player. Will he just continue to improve to something like GAJ or end up having a career like Robert Harvey's?

As others improve around him he wont be as relied on as heavily, despite being a critical component. Someone like Cotchin was a better player (individually) in his 4th year than he was 8 years in - the same thing could happen to Walsh.
 
EBERT THE KING said:
Has everything to do with Walsh.

In my opinion, on current trajectory, Sam Walsh deserves to be rewarded with the most lucrative contract ($ per season) of all time, once this four year contract expires, so in a salary capped league, that has significant ramifications.

Carlton have notoriously overpaid players (Williams, Curnow, Martin, McGovern) so something needs to change in the current list, in order to accomodate the very good players coming up for renewal over the next four years.
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Hilarious stuff
 

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La Dispute said:
I'm not sure how many more gears he's got to go.

He's already dragging the Blues over the line by himself, has clocked up a Top 5 Brownlow finish and is comfortably the best Carlton player. Will he just continue to improve to something like GAJ or end up having a career like Robert Harvey's?

As others improve around him he wont be as relied on as heavily, despite being a critical component. Someone like Cotchin was a better player (individually) in his 4th year than he was 8 years in - the same thing could happen to Walsh.
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Hes got the potential to be top 3 mid in the game, which would put him on over a million a year.

GAJ imo is the greatest mid of the modern era, so he doesn't need to reach that heights to still be worth a big contract.
 
juss said:
Hes got the potential to be top 3 mid in the game, which would put him on over a million a year.

GAJ imo is the greatest mid of the modern era, so he doesn't need to reach that heights to still be worth a big contract.
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Neale, Mitchell have been top 3 mids in the game at some point in time but have never earned a million a year. Petracca's current deal will be the biggest of his career and he isn't earning above 1 mil pa.

McGovern is currently earning over a million per year but has never been a Top 5 player. Cameron at GWS in the same bucket. Scully at GWS etc.

Contracts rarely match up to a players exact worth and loyal clubmen will usually accept unders or take a pay cut for the betterment of the team.
 
La Dispute said:
I'm not sure how many more gears he's got to go.

He's already dragging the Blues over the line by himself, has clocked up a Top 5 Brownlow finish and is comfortably the best Carlton player. Will he just continue to improve to something like GAJ or end up having a career like Robert Harvey's?

As others improve around him he wont be as relied on as heavily, despite being a critical component. Someone like Cotchin was a better player (individually) in his 4th year than he was 8 years in - the same thing could happen to Walsh.
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Cotchin had a leg injury vs freo which forced him to change his style. Hopefully Walsh has some good injury luck
 
halfback dasher said:
Club has form .....guess its always gunna create discussion.
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Meanwhile the Eagles had 7 players receiving over 700k a year or so ago including paying Jack Darling 700k, Andrew Gaff 750k and Jeremy McGovern 1.2 million (!) pa. I can't recall a lot of critical comment on those kinds of deals.

Even more unusual is Cerra's contract has been reported as under 600k and posters are still inflating it to 750k. Other posters are still quoting Jack Martin's contract at 1 million (currently 300k), McKay at 800k (600k) or Cripps at 750k (600k). McGovern's contract also continues to be highlighted at 800k, yet he didn't make the Top 50 earners for 2020, AND his contract was frontloaded - what does that say about the accuracy of reporting on his contract? Plenty of lemmings happy to take Riccuito's word for it.

No club's cap is as heavily scrutinised and misreported on Bigfooty as the Blues despite having very few top end contracts on our books. Some we'd like to take back, but that is the case for every club in the league.
 
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