MRP / Trib. Sam Wicks

[demondavey]

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Ryan Lester

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tonight.

If the AFL is that serious about the head then they’ll give him 5 weeks. The big issue for me is Pickett got 2 for something very similar.

Where do they go with this? Will Sydney be appealing if he gets more than what Pickett got? Through the concept of precedent, should he only get 2?

Discuss.

 

[HairyO]

Will be 1 week or 2 if he is very unlucky.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Picketts was completely different.
Pickett was front on.

Wicks hit was just as bad though. Action needs to be worth more than injury

 

[demondavey]

Picketts was completely different.
Pickett was front on.

Wicks hit was just as bad though. Action needs to be worth more than injury

Correct. But we know it doesn’t work that way. Big chance for the AFL to make a statement, but they simply can’t because they haven’t all year.

They’re in a corner.

 

[demondavey]

Will be 1 week or 2 if he is very unlucky.

Yes, but I look at that and think it was so much worse than Sicily.

 

[HairyO]

Yes, but I look at that and think it was so much worse than Sicily.

But less damage. Its all they care about.

Pickett's was one of the nastiest looking hits since the 1990s but only 2 weeks because no injury. Should have been a month simply on intent.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

How many for Cameron on Blakey?
Looks at him, then falls on his head, propels him into point post....

Hyperbole post, but if things completely accidental are going to be suspended

 

[BF Tiger]

How many for Cameron on Blakey?
Looks at him, then falls on his head, propels him into point post....

Hyperbole post, but if things completely accidental are going to be suspended

Danger with cracked ribs and a lung injury… surely someone gets suspended.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

How many for Cameron on Blakey?
Looks at him, then falls on his head, propels him into point post....

Hyperbole post, but if things completely accidental are going to be suspended

Post kept its eye on the ball, Blakey is gone.

 

[Stumpy Pete]

Most recent precedent is DeGoey and this is later and higher - at least 3 weeks you’d think.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Rusty Brookes]

I thought the action was terrible. Off the ground when he hit, flush on the jaw with the elbow. But the AFL punishes outcome - commentators have already got it down to a week due to the impact.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

From recent examples, should be more than 3 weeks. Will likely not even get that, considering outcome, which annoys everyone.

Kozzy is a golden child, so no point comparing to that incident.

 

[The Jet From Poowong]

Potential to cause brain injury with the point of his elbow
Thuggish action
10 weeks suspension

our resident MRP swan expert wouldn’t dare disagree

 

[Flog_Toolist]

Elbow to Head. Minimum 4 weeks.

 

[HairyO]

From recent examples, should be more than 3 weeks. Will likely not even get that, considering outcome, which annoys everyone.

Kozzy is a golden child, so no point comparing to that incident.

How can it be more when DeGoey knocked someone out and got 3.

 

[Grockadoc]

This is a worse action than Mansell's who copped 3. This should be 4, but will only be 2...

 

[Magma]

it's a trip to the tribunal at least i would've thought. absolute brainfart.

 

[maskmcgee]

Picketts was completely different.

Correct. But we know it doesn’t work that way.

If the AFL is that serious about the head then they’ll give him 5 weeks. The big issue for me is Pickett got 2 for something very similar.

So wait, are you saying the incidents were "very similar" and therefore the AFL will give the same penalty, or the incidents are "completely different" and because the AFL hands out random penalties he'll get 2?

 

[Maddo11]

Careless medium high is two weeks right?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Careless medium high is two weeks right?

It's low impact (no injury)

It's why so many people want the grading changed to intent over injury

 

[demondavey]

So wait, are you saying the incidents were "very similar" and therefore the AFL will give the same penalty, or the incidents are "completely different" and because the AFL hands out random penalties he'll get 2?

I am saying the Pickett incident and Wicks incident weren’t dissimilar. Both after the ball hits, both high, both avoidable. Using precedent as a principle, it’s probably appropriate to give him 2 weeks.

Is that right? No. Pickett should have got 4 but he didn’t because Smith wasn’t injured, which is ridiculous. Wicks should get 4 because his action was dangerous and unnecessary. In comparison to the Sicily incident, both Wicks and Pickett hits were far worse.

 

[HairyO]

It's low impact (no injury)

It's why so many people want the grading changed to intent over injury

Low is a fine isnt it? It will be upgraded to medium or high for one or 2 weeks.

 

[Reginald Perrin]

How can it be more when DeGoey knocked someone out and got 3.

Again with the false information. Do you even watch the incidents you comment on?

Wicks had more time to consider his action, left the ground, targeted the head and used a forearm, and I said should be more.

 

[Maddo11]

Again with the false information. Do you even watch the incidents you comment on?

Wicks had more time to consider his action, left the ground, targeted the head and used a forearm, and I said should be more.

It was late and careless, but not targeted. No chance this is graded intentional

 

[Reginald Perrin]

It was late and careless, but not targeted. No chance this is graded intentional

It was quite a weird action. More than careless, less than deliberate, but is there a grading of stupid?