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You’d hope the club would’ve learnt from the Tony shaw experiment, but they didn’t.

Now you’d hope they’d learn from that in addition with the Buckley experiment.

(Haven’t bothered to mention the bob rose experiment)

But too often emotion gets in the way of logic at collingwood.

The 3 most ruthless and best decisions at collingwood in the last 40 years.

- Leigh Matthew’s propelled into head coach early taking over from bob rose

- Move on from shaw, headhunt a proven winner and culture setter in Mick Malthouse

- Move on Buckley and conduct a process to find a proven winner and culture setter in Craig McRae
 
Masked Magician said:
You’d hope the club would’ve learnt from the Tony shaw experiment, but they didn’t.

Now you’d hope they’d learn from that in addition with the Buckley experiment.

(Haven’t bothered to mention the bob rose experiment)

But too often emotion gets in the way of logic at collingwood.

The 3 most ruthless and best decisions at collingwood in the last 40 years.

- Leigh Matthew’s propelled into head coach early taking over from bob rose

- Move on from shaw, headhunt a proven winner and culture setter in Mick Malthouse

- Move on Buckley and conduct a process to find a proven winner and culture setter in Craig McRae
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Agreed. The only conflict here is the possible inference that Matthew's demonstrated champion players/leaders can virtually step into head coach position. I believe football has moved a long way since then, that a champion head coach is more likely going to come from someone who has years of experience in the coaching game at AFL level. The Hird/Voss/Buckley experiment failed and I think in all three cases the outcome might have been different if they had some years under their belt.
 

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noideaatall said:
Agreed. The only conflict here is the possible inference that Matthew's demonstrated champion players/leaders can virtually step into head coach position. I believe football has moved a long way since then, that a champion head coach is more likely going to come from someone who has years of experience in the coaching game at AFL level. The Hird/Voss/Buckley experiment failed and I think in all three cases the outcome might have been different if they had some years under their belt.
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Both Voss and Buckley definitely were appointed way too soon. They needed experience from outside their own clubs, and probably suffered for it. Voss at least has been given a second chance, but not without a lot of hard work along the way.
 
Jen2310 said:
Both Voss and Buckley definitely were appointed way too soon. They needed experience from outside their own clubs, and probably suffered for it. Voss at least has been given a second chance, but not without a lot of hard work along the way.
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In Hird's case I would assume more experience and he wouldn't have let the supplement saga happen. Experience counts for something - look at the change in training which I assume is at least partly coming from McCrae's experience.
 
Yep, i love this move.

Pendles has a superb footy brain as well as being universally loved and admired. He will ALWAYS be a Collingwood man deep down; if he goes out into the wider world to learn the intricacies of the coaching caper for 10 years (or whatever), and finds that coaching really is for him and he is good at it, he will always hope to make it back to the Pies. It's in his blood.
 
Pendles has made some offhand comments recently regarding multi-year deals for his playing future. He made a comment in his speech accepting the life membership at the AGM, and he said it in the Roaming Bolts video at training.

I wonder if those comments belie a bit of a standoff with Wrighty on re-signing? There seemed to be a little bit of tension at his last re-signing when he eventually got his way with a two-year deal.

Obviously I don't think there's a risk he goes to play for any other club, but maybe if he is just offered a one-year deal and the club doesn't budge, he'll just retire and move into coaching straight away?
 
Pragmatic Shill said:
Pendles has made some offhand comments recently regarding multi-year deals for his playing future. He made a comment in his speech accepting the life membership at the AGM, and he said it in the Roaming Bolts video at training.

I wonder if those comments belie a bit of a standoff with Wrighty on re-signing? There seemed to be a little bit of tension at his last re-signing when he eventually got his way with a two-year deal.

Obviously I don't think there's a risk he goes to play for any other club, but maybe if he is just offered a one-year deal and the club doesn't budge, he'll just retire and move into coaching straight away?
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Hopefully he is happy just to play another year and that trend continues for 3 more years. He has over 350 games. He cant really expect to sign multi year deals this late into his career. He is still above league standard and I hope the club is happy for him to play until he isnt AFL quality any more or his body fails him.
 
Pleasedontfail11 said:
Hopefully he is happy just to play another year and that trend continues for 3 more years. He has over 350 games. He cant really expect to sign multi year deals this late into his career. He is still above league standard and I hope the club is happy for him to play until he isnt AFL quality any more or his body fails him.
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I agree with you but I was a little miffed that he held out for the two-year deal at the end of 2021 and even made public comments about the negotiations when he was happy to take a one-year deal for 2021 before the 2020 season even started.
 
Schraderbrau said:
he was a solid trier ( i think he may even have won a best and fairest). The problem is he is one of the two blokes (Jason Wild being the other) that defined the Tony Shaw era and I can never forget that :(
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A trier but solid is debatable. wouldn’t have lasted on a better list.

eg, Blair was a solid trier.
 

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Finnishpie said:
Last year for Pendles?

Last year for Howe and Steele too?

legends but time marches on.
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I reckon Howe is one injury from retirement. sidey likely to also retire at the end of the year.

Pendles has at least two years left, he showed last year that playing half back and coming in to centre clearances when needed is very effective.
 
Masked Magician said:
You’d hope the club would’ve learnt from the Tony shaw experiment, but they didn’t.

Now you’d hope they’d learn from that in addition with the Buckley experiment.

(Haven’t bothered to mention the bob rose experiment)

But too often emotion gets in the way of logic at collingwood.

The 3 most ruthless and best decisions at collingwood in the last 40 years.

- Leigh Matthew’s propelled into head coach early taking over from bob rose

- Move on from shaw, headhunt a proven winner and culture setter in Mick Malthouse

- Move on Buckley and conduct a process to find a proven winner and culture setter in Craig McRae
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Buckley was a lucky free kick away from being a Collingwood premiership coach.
Malthouse was a lucky bounce away from not being a Collingwood premiership coach.
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
Buckley was a lucky free kick away from being a Collingwood premiership coach.
Malthouse was a lucky bounce away from not being a Collingwood premiership coach.
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Bob Rose was an unlucky bounce away from being a Collingwood premiership coach.
Tom Hafey was an idiot away from being a Collingwood premiership coach.
 

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Doc1763 said:
Bob Rose was an unlucky bounce away from being a Collingwood premiership coach.
Tom Hafey was an idiot away from being a Collingwood premiership coach.
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Two idiots… you forgot the the boundary umpire

And another unlucky bounce for Rose…. If Tuddy hadn’t “ bounced” into McKenna in 1970 then maybe we’d have won that flag.
 
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Fat Jesus said:
Yes I'm thinking he will as well.
Fit and has at least 2 to 3 years left.
Doesn't get injured often.
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I wonder if Pendles becomes the ultimate 23rd player - he's the guy you want fit at the end of the game (he was significant in a lot of our close wins this year). Not playing 100% game time might also help extend his career.
 
Masked Magician said:
You’d hope the club would’ve learnt from the Tony shaw experiment, but they didn’t.

Now you’d hope they’d learn from that in addition with the Buckley experiment.

(Haven’t bothered to mention the bob rose experiment)

But too often emotion gets in the way of logic at collingwood.

The 3 most ruthless and best decisions at collingwood in the last 40 years.

- Leigh Matthew’s propelled into head coach early taking over from bob rose

- Move on from shaw, headhunt a proven winner and culture setter in Mick Malthouse

- Move on Buckley and conduct a process to find a proven winner and culture setter in Craig McRae
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Not sure you can describe Rose to Matthews as ruthless. Rose rang Matthews after the 3rd round in 1986 and told him it was time for Matthews to take over. Rose was the architect of that change.

Malthouse was a great appointment.

Buckley was a good coach whose time was up, he knew it and accepted it. Not a ruthless decision. Fly had a great 1st season and things look promising but we are potentially a few seasons off knowing if it has worked.
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
Two idiots… you forgot the the boundary umpire

And another unlucky bounce for Rose…. If Tuddy hadn’t “ bounced” into McKenna in 1970 then maybe we’d have won that flag.
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No maybes about that. McKenna was on fire in the GF and kicked 40% of our goals that season. Him getting concussed in the 2nd q was the difference. He had 5 goals to that point
 

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