Scott Stevens

DaveW · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by Russian
Perrie and 14 for pick 6 ... I think that works for both. Perrie plays his best football when he's the #1 target. Crows need good quality youth

Stevens for Perrie - Why would Sydney want another forward - their lineup at the moment:
F: Davis, Hall, O'Loughlin
HF: Schneider, Goodes, ???
Can't see Perrie fitting in to this team
Stevens may be as good as Perrie, but its not clear cut so no need 4 change

If that's their line up, why wouldn't they want another tall forward? CHF is hardly the best place for Goodes.

But I don't think Perrie is really what they need either.

Stiffy_18 · Oct 16, 2003

I don't think Perrie is going anywhere

liz · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by DaveW
If that's their line up, why wouldn't they want another tall forward? CHF is hardly the best place for Goodes.

But I don't think Perrie is really what they need either.

Hall at CHF, Doyle or Ball at FF, stick O'Keefe in there or one of the youngsters in the reserves who have been kicking plenty of goals and you have a more than decent forward line. Not really room for Stevens - and I agree I don't really see that Perrie would fit in.

But you guys aren't really interested in Sydney's forward line so...

What do you reckon Bode is worth? I heard he was looking for more opportunities at another club. I've been impressed with his ball winning ability at stoppages the few times I've seen him play and that is exactly what Sydney needs. Would he and Stevens be a fair swap? Have to confess I don't really have a feel for Bode's value, but he probably has more runs on the board than Stevens.

DaveW · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by liz
What do you reckon Bode is worth? I heard he was looking for more opportunities at another club. I've been impressed with his ball winning ability at stoppages the few times I've seen him play and that is exactly what Sydney needs. Would he and Stevens be a fair swap? Have to confess I don't really have a feel for Bode's value, but he probably has more runs on the board than Stevens.

I figured Bode might interest Swans fans - a lot of whom want to go after an inside midfielder. But we're just as light on for genuine in-and-under types. Especially with the retirement of Bickley.

So Bode is very much a required player. We'd want something decent in return if we were going to give him up.

A fringe tall doesn't really cut it in my opinion.

DaveW · Oct 16, 2003

One more thing. Where did you hear Bode was looking for opportunities with another club?

Perhaps he's resentful about spending a lot of time on the bench this year. He'll probably get a lot more ground time next year though.

liz · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by DaveW
One more thing. Where did you hear Bode was looking for opportunities with another club?

His name was mentioned in the papers a couple of weeks ago as someone who had asked to be traded, unless my memory is playing tricks on me. Of course, you can't believe everything you read.

I saw that the HS had him down as possible trade bait, suggesting a trade with the Dees. They rarely hit the mark with these things, but if his suggested value in that trade is about OK, then I'd be happy with Stevens and, say, a second round pick for Bode? But then again, I'd be surprised if Adelaide were prepared to lose him.

Stiffy_18 · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by liz
His name was mentioned in the papers a couple of weeks ago as someone who had asked to be traded, unless my memory is playing tricks on me. Of course, you can't believe everything you read.

I saw that the HS had him down as possible trade bait, suggesting a trade with the Dees. They rarely hit the mark with these things, but if his suggested value in that trade is about OK, then I'd be happy with Stevens and, say, a second round pick for Bode? But then again, I'd be surprised if Adelaide were prepared to lose him.

I don't think we will trade him we are light on his types

DaveW · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by liz
I saw that the HS had him down as possible trade bait, suggesting a trade with the Dees.

Fair enough.

They rarely hit the mark with these things, but if his suggested value in that trade is about OK, then I'd be happy with Stevens and, say, a second round pick for Bode?

That's probably closer to the mark in terms of what Bode's worth. But I still wouldn't do that trade.

Stevens would be far from a certain selection in a current Adelaide line up; he isn't one with the Swans at the moment either. And a pick late in the 2nd round is fairly hit and miss.

Bode had an up and down year. But in form he walks into our best line up. It was only three years ago we gave up a first round pick to get him from Port.

But then again, I'd be surprised if Adelaide were prepared to lose him.

Same. Bode's a required player. I wouldn't mind trading him if we were given an offer we couldn't refuse but otherwise I'd rather keep him.

What do you see Stevens' worth? He's shown a bit at times but seems to remain a rather maligned player. I think he's got some promise. Is a third round pick too little? I'd be annoyed if we gave up our second round pick.

macca23 · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by DaveW

What do you see Stevens' worth? He's shown a bit at times but seems to remain a rather maligned player. I think he's got some promise. Is a third round pick too little? I'd be annoyed if we gave up our second round pick.

As you should be - surely that won't happen. He's a 3rd rounder or nothing.

Mego Red · Oct 16, 2003

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I am not all that convinced. Granted I haven't seen much of him.

I WANT A BLOODY RUCKMAN

Sure, we're going to need a ruckman, but mobile size is a need NOW, a ruckman (which we have become obsessed by) is a need for 2005 or 2006 ...

Mego Red · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think the problem this year will be that a LOT of trades will fall through because the Fax machine at AFL will get jammed.

I don't see the point of having a 5 day trade period when deals don't get done until day 4. Better off having a 3 day trade period to begin with.

No - best off having a trade period that is ten months long, stopping eight weeks before the finals. Like most large sports have.

It certainly gives you more to talk about - and there are often sides that realize half way through the season that they're only a player or two away from reallly competing, and yet they have to sit still, effectivly throwing away the season and millions of dollars. But it won't happen, because footy is such a sentimental sport ...

liz · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by DaveW

What do you see Stevens' worth? He's shown a bit at times but seems to remain a rather maligned player. I think he's got some promise. Is a third round pick too little? I'd be annoyed if we gave up our second round pick.

Hard to say really. He was an earlyish 2nd round pick in his time (I think we took him at 21 or so) but that was four years ago so isn't really relevant now I guess. He seems to be the kind of player who dominates at reserves level - in the VFL last year as well as the Canberra comp this year - but can't put it together with any regularity in the seniors. He'll play one good game but then go missing the following week.

He is a pretty good mark, especially for his weight, and if he could bulk up he could be a force up forward. His problem seems to be a lack of foot speed - or at least, an inability to get to enough contests. Playing as the 3rd or 4th tall in the Sydney team where the likes of Hall and O'Loughlin are the main targets, this is a bit of a problem. But until he bulks up he's not going to be a key forward for any AFL team.

He may be one of those players who makes a successful switch to the back half. He did quite well in the Port final back there, but Sydney already have a lot of light bodied tall defenders so he wouldn't get a regular gig for us. Not sure if the Crows need that kind of player.

I'd be pretty happy if we got a 3rd round pick for him.

Stiffy_18 · Oct 17, 2003

Stevens and Pick 31 to Adelaide
Picks 29 and 45 to Sydney.

This really gives me the sh|ts. We don't have a pick in the 20s

. Unless we get a pick in the 20s in the next 10 minutes I will be one p|ssed off chap

Jars458 · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Stevens and Pick 31 to Adelaide
Picks 29 and 45 to Sydney.

This really gives me the sh|ts. We don't have a pick in the 20s . Unless we get a pick in the 20s in the next 10 minutes I will be one p|ssed off chap

what a stupid statment

There is very little difference between 29 and 31 given by that stage it is a lottery whether a player will develop or not

That's a good deal I reckon for a 21 year old guy who is 194 cm

He has potential.

We havn't lost much for that.

Stiffy_18 · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by Jars458
what a stupid statment

There is very little difference between 29 and 31 given by that stage it is a lottery whether a player will develop or not

That's a good deal I reckon for a 21 year old guy who is 194 cm

He has potential.

We havn't lost much for that.

IN this years draft its a difference between getting a tall or a small. We need to use our 1st 2 picks to get TALLS. We can kiss goodbye one of Hall or Gayfer. I am not happy.

If there is no much difference why didn't Swans give him up for pick 45 alone??????

maccas_no1 · Oct 17, 2003

Welcome to the AFC Scott Stevens, goodluck to you, may you have alot of success @ the Adelaide Footy Club

Jars458 · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
IN this years draft its a difference between getting a tall or a small. We need to use our 1st 2 picks to get TALLS. We can kiss goodbye one of Hall or Gayfer. I am not happy.

If there is no much difference why didn't Swans give him up for pick 45 alone??????

I am so glad you know exactly how the draft will pan out right down to pick 31. The AFL should hire you.

I would imagine our boys owuld have thought about that.

Anyway its done now - we should just support Stevo #2 and hope he plays well

The great thing about trade week is that Port got shafted on Stevens and Guerra. You have to laugh.

Mong · Oct 17, 2003

Generally the Crows would get the same player for pick 31 as they would if they had pick 29.

By that stage in the draft there are so many variables we would be very unlucky if the player we eventually want with pick 31 goes with pick 29 or 30.

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Mong · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by Jars458
The great thing about trade week is that Port got shafted on Stevens and Guerra. You have to laugh.

Guerra too??

What are they doing over there? Why couldn't they find a trade for Guerra? Their performances in trade week are usually good but those are huge blows. Oh well, who cares? We lost out on Angwin so I guess it's someone else's turn.

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Stiffy_18 · Oct 17, 2003

I thought Guerra went to Saints for Pick 39

lozstar · Oct 17, 2003

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I thought Guerra went to Saints for Pick 39

Yep he did..

Port Adelaide has completed two trades that earned it two draft selections in exchange for Brent Guerra and Adam Morgan. Guerra is now a St Kilda player in exchange for selection 39 and Morgan will join the Western Bulldogs in exchange for selection 34.

Stiffy_18 · Oct 17, 2003

I swear, Sheedy is a genius. Pick 6 for Jacobs. We could have done better in the trading period. Be a bit more agressive for a ruckman we desperately need.

Mong · Oct 17, 2003

Sorry, I thought when Jars said they got shafted by Guerra he went for nothing. Still, in their fans minds they probably think they still got shafted by getting only pick 39. Or maybe their fans were seriously overating the value of a guy who couldn't even get a game with them. They were talking a player and second round draft picks for Guerra. I guess they were dreaming.

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Stiffy_18 · Oct 17, 2003

I think Saints got a bargain. Pick 39 for Guerra is a deadset bargain.

Pick 34 for Morgan was a very good get IMHO.

PrideOf · Oct 17, 2003

Welcome aboard Scott Stevens.

You're already a cross between Scott Welsh and Mark Stevens, let's hope you play like it.

Port only got #39 for Guerra? Looks like their September form is creeping into October.

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