So How Dangerous is COVID Really?

[madmug]

Essentially everything. When your business model depends on fraudulent statistics, you are going to lie for extra funding, aren't you?

You don't think closing borders, limiting personal exposure, messages of masking, washing, vaccine had a protective benefit against Covid? The world wide post covid excess deaths surely shows the Australia did relatively well?
Maybe compare this to the effect of the world influenza pandemic post 1918?

 

[the_interloper]

Essentially everything. When your business model depends on fraudulent statistics, you are going to lie for extra funding, aren't you?

How do you know this? And does this extend to the public health system?

 

[No SPIN]

And that's the strange part. Younger people are showing flu like symptoms, while older people are remaining asymptomatic.


The fact that we are having very little actual covid deaths has shown that it's been pretty much a false alarm.

Shutting ourselves away from the world meant that when people started getting infected, the mutated virus seemed to be weaker which is why it had little to no effect

A 7% death rate in march 2020 was NOT a false alarm.
Lockdowns at the time given this death rate were justified.
Both are indisputable FACTS.

Anything else?

 

[Puddy]

How do you know this? And does this extend to the public health system?

Plug yourself into the industry. You will be fraudulently filling out paperwork to save your job.

 

[Puddy]

You don't think closing borders, limiting personal exposure, messages of masking, washing, vaccine had a protective benefit against Covid? The world wide post covid excess deaths surely shows the Australia did relatively well?
Maybe compare this to the effect of the world influenza pandemic post 1918?

We 'saved' elderly people to let them starve while dying in their own excrement.

 

[the_interloper]

Plug yourself into the industry. You will be fraudulently filling out paperwork to save your job.

"Do your own research?"

 

[rank and file]

I completely forgot all about it.

 

[Chief]

The Florida surgeon general is an anti-vax whack job who thinks 98% of DNA is "known only to God", among other things.





Maybe this is the wrong thread. It's the one that pops up in search though.

 

[Back2backJack]

I'd say fairly dangerous for all the people that died from it but I'm no Doctor.

 

[CD Xbow]

Recent paper in the Lancets describes a drop in the worlds average life expectancy of 1.6 years over the Covid years. You have to shorten a lot of peoples lives to drop the average life expectancy that much. This was very much against global trends in previous years. In Oz our life expectancy went up a little but in the years after has dipped. ABC has an article about it here

Global life expectancy fell by 1.6 years during the COVID-19 pandemic but Australia bucked the trend

Australia was one of the only countries to record an increase in life expectancy from 2019 to 2021, demonstrating the "relative success" of Australia's handling of the pandemic, an infectious diseases expert says.

www.abc.net.au

The authors make an estimate of 15.9 million total deaths related to Covid19 in 2020 and 2021

'An estimated 131 million (126–137) people died globally from all causes in 2020 and 2021 combined, of which 15·9 million (14·7–17·2) were due to the COVID-19 pandemic (measured by excess mortality, which includes deaths directly due to SARS-CoV-2 infection and those indirectly due to other social, economic, or behavioural changes associated with the pandemic).'

The original article is here, it's rather dense.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)00476-8/fulltext

 

[1970crow]

"Long covid" now defunct as any more meaningful than any other virus. Guess we're back to worrying about the 83 year olds.

 

[Chief]

"Long covid" now defunct as any more meaningful than any other virus. Guess we're back to worrying about the 83 year olds.

Can you explain what you mean?

 

[Del203211]

Can you explain what you mean?

I think they are talking about this, from QLDs CHO:

Queensland's Chief Health Officer says it's time to stop using the term 'long COVID'

The state's chief health officer says the description wrongly implied long-term post-COVID viral symptoms were "somehow unique and exceptional" to other viral infections.

amp.abc.net.au

Time to stop using term ‘long Covid’ as symptoms no worse than those after flu, Queensland’s chief health officer says

Researchers compared the symptoms and impairment of Covid and influenza patients a year after they tested positive

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Chief]

The lead author of the study, the state’s chief health officer Dr John Gerrard, said it was “time to stop using terms like ‘long Covid’” because they imply there is something unique about the longer-term symptoms associated with the virus, and in some cases create hypervigilance.

Yes the similarities between post-viral syndromes have been discussed for years, as well as the need for more study to get good data on them.

If this brings the knowledge of post-influenza up to a better level that's a good thing.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Seems the latest cooker narrative is to link Princess Kate's cancer to the Covid vaccine.

So stand by for a rapid goal-post shift from "The vaccine causes heart attacks!!" to "The vaccine causes cancer!!" in 3, 2, 1......

 

[Chief]

Yeah they are going mental on that in the Twitters.

Changed from the general anti-vac belief that "the royals won't have been vaccinated, but they give it to us!"

 

[Chamber JJJ]

Can you explain what you mean?

Yeah they are going mental on that in the Twitters.

Changed from the general anti-vac belief that "the royals won't have been vaccinated, but they give it to us!"

Have you Read the latest Australian Journal of General Practice latest publishing
Volume 4, Issue 53, April 2024 Long COVID: Sufferers can take heart. They slowly admitting some truth they can't hide anymore. I recently read Dr Geert Vanden Bossche a respected Belgian Virologist Issued Dire Warning ''Massive, Massive Tsunami of Death Among Highly Vaccinated is Imminent. He is a Veterinarian also so don't know the reason for that and think it too much scaremongering like Dr Fauci did with Covid. I hope he is wrong some people i know have had 7 of that mRNA type Vaccine.

​

 

[Chief]

Volume 4, Issue 53, April 2024 Long COVID: Sufferers can take heart.

Skimmed it. What are "they" admitting that "they" were hiding?

 

[MisterMarcus]

Have you Read the latest Australian Journal of General Practice latest publishing
Volume 4, Issue 53, April 2024 Long COVID: Sufferers can take heart. They slowly admitting some truth they can't hide anymore. I recently read Dr Geert Vanden Bossche a respected Belgian Virologist Issued Dire Warning ''Massive, Massive Tsunami of Death Among Highly Vaccinated is Imminent. He is a Veterinarian also so don't know the reason for that and think it too much scaremongering like Dr Fauci did with Covid. I hope he is wrong some people i know have had 7 of that mRNA type Vaccine.

​

You do realise this guy has been debunked so comprehensively years ago that not even anti-Covid vax people are trying to quote him anymore.

You're like 3 years out of date.

 

[Chief]

Have you Read the latest Australian Journal of General Practice latest publishing
Volume 4, Issue 53, April 2024 Long COVID: Sufferers can take heart. They slowly admitting some truth they can't hide anymore.

I looked at that - it's not saying what you think it is saying.

I recently read Dr Geert Vanden Bossche a respected Belgian Virologist Issued Dire Warning ''Massive, Massive Tsunami of Death Among Highly Vaccinated is Imminent. He is a Veterinarian also so don't know the reason for that and think it too much scaremongering like Dr Fauci did with Covid. I hope he is wrong some people i know have had 7 of that mRNA type Vaccine.

This is cookery.

No "tsunami" of vaccine deaths has been recorded.

People who are not vaccinated are many more times likely to get severe Covid 19 and many more times likely to require hospitalisation and many more times likely to die from Covid 19.

This is hard data from around the planet.

 

[darcytiger]

You dorks still talking about this?

 

[Chief]

You dorks still talking about this?

No.

 

[Bucking Bronco]

I looked at that - it's not saying what you think it is saying.



This is cookery.

No "tsunami" of vaccine deaths has been recorded.

People who are not vaccinated are many more times likely to get severe Covid 19 and many more times likely to require hospitalisation and many more times likely to die from Covid 19.

This is hard data from around the planet.

Would love to know your explanation about this:

 

[Chief]

Would love to know your explanation about this:

I'm not a statistician so I'd probably need to do the same Googling you would.

 

[Triggering Tiger]

I caught it two months ago but i don't know which strain it was. I was sick for more than 6 weeks and i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.