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It's Spider-man. ;)

Went to see it tonight. Loved the wet t-Shirt scene! Hehe.

Pretty good flick. The first half of the movie was the best, before it turned into a bit of a cornball fest for the last half, but it was still entertaining.

You can tell Raimi ripped off the "warmth" of the 1978 Superman film. He tried to make it more like Superman than 1989's Batman, which was good, because Superman was the best comic-book adaption movie ever made.

From the father figure lecturing Peter about how, "great power brings great responsibliy" before his eventual death, to the vulnerablity of the lead charatcer, the film had the "feel " of Superman all over it.

I could never get used to the Green Goblin though. The mask really needed to move to simulate his voice movements.

Overall, well worth seeing. Unilke many popcorn flicks, there is a certain honesty about the movie, especially dealing with the relationship between MJ and Peter.
 
Yeah I really liked it. Kirsten Dunst is unbelievable as a red-head, they scene were her top gets wet deserves an oscar.

I thought Toby McGuire did a great job as Spiderman. The guy is perfect for the role and it looks like he will be playing the role at least one more time.

Went in with great expectations and wasn't disappointed.
 

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Well it isn't my type of movie & I won't be seeing it even when it is on video, was just amazed when they said they thought it would overtake Star Wars as the biggest money making movie.
 
Originally posted by mantis
They were saying on the news that it might overtake Star Wars as the biggest money maker ever.
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Without adjusting for inflation, Titanic is the biggest movie ever. Star Wars is second. When adjusting for inflation, Spider-Man will not come close to Star Wars.

The first set of figures below are USA figures only and they are NOT adjusted for inflation. This makes the figues for Star Wars (1977) and Jaws (1975) remarkable.

1 Titanic 1997 $600,787,052
2 Star Wars 1977 $460,935,665
3 E.T. 1982 $434,949,459
4 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 1999 $431,065,444
5 Jurassic Park 1993 $357,067,947
6 Spider-Man 2002 $353,823,544-------------and counting
7 Forrest Gump 1994 $329,690,974
8 Harry Potter 2001 $317,557,891
9 The Lion King 1994 $312,855,561
10 The Lord of the Rings 2001 $311,053,126
11 Return of the Jedi 1983 $309,125,409
12 Independence Day 1996 $306,052,958
13 The Sixth Sense 1999 $293,476,912
14 The Empire Strikes Back 1980 $290,158,751
15 Home Alone 1990 $285,761,243
16 Shrek 2001 $267,652,016
17 How The Grinch Stole Christmas 2000 $260,031,035
18 Jaws 1975 $260,000,000
19 Monsters, Inc. 2001 $254,252,781
20 Batman 1989 $251,188
21 Men in Black 1997 $250,147
22 Toy Story 2 1999 $245,823,397
23 Raiders of the Lost Ark 1981 $242,374,454
24 Twister 1996 $241,688,385
25 Ghostbusters 1984 $238,632,124
26 Beverly Hills Cop 1984 $234,760,478
27 Cast Away 2000 $233,630,478
28 Star Wars: Attack of the Clones 2002 $232,324,344------and counting
29 The Lost World 1997 $229,086
30 Rush Hour 2 2001 $226,164,286

When adjusting for inflation, the figures are obviously different. Adjusting all ticket prices to 2002 dollars, the below figures are the TRUE representations. These are the true box-office champions of all time:

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.
1 Gone With the Wind 1939 $1,001.69 million (i.e one billion)
2 Star Wars 1977 $865.91 million
3 The Sound of Music 1965 $694.99 million
4 E.T. 1982 $687.3 million
5 Titanic 1997 $639.83 million
6 The Ten Commandments 1956 $639.32
7 Jaws 1975 $625.05
8 Doctor Zhivago 1965 $590.96
9 The Jungle Book 1967 $528.65
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1937 $518.85
11 Ben-Hur 1959 $512.64
12 101 Dalmatians 1961 $500.87
13 The Exorcist 1973 $491.1
14 The Empire Strikes Back 1980 $468.62
15 Return of the Jedi 1983 $449.66
16 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 1999 $442.15
17 The Sting 1973 $434.20
18 Mary Poppins 1964 $416.56
19 Raiders of the Lost Ark 1981 $415.03
20 Jurassic Park 1993 $410.35
21 The Graduate 1967 $407.30
22 Fantasia 1940 $395.32
23 The Godfather 1972 $378.21
24 Forrest Gump 1994 $375.49
25 The Lion King 1994 $356.32
26 Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1977 $354.36
27 Spider-Man 2002 $353.8
28 Sleeping Beauty 1959 $345.97
29 Grease 1978 $341.21
30 Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid 1969 $335.84

As you can see, Spider-Man (currently at 354 million) has no hope of catching the original Star Wars. Spider-Man will probably end up with about 410 million, which is less tha half of what Star Wars made when adjusted for inflation.
 
Originally posted by Dan26
You can tell Raimi ripped off the "warmth" of the 1978 Superman film. He tried to make it more like Superman than 1989's Batman, which was good, because Superman was the best comic-book adaption movie ever made.
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Obviously you never saw the Captain America movie! :D
But yea, it stuck better to the comic 'feel' than many other adaptions have in the past. Btw (imo) the 2nd Superman is much like Star Wars in that the 2nd film is the best of the series.

From the father figure lecturing Peter about how, "great power brings great responsibliy" before his eventual death, to the vulnerablity of the lead charatcer, the film had the "feel " of Superman all over it.
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Ahh, you never read the comic then! That line is straight out of Amazing Fantasy 15 (first SpiderMan appearance 1962). Superman.... phhttt. ;)

I could never get used to the Green Goblin though. The mask really needed to move to simulate his voice movements.
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They should have just painted Dafoe's face green! He looks like a pale goblin at the best of times!

Overall, well worth seeing. Unilke many popcorn flicks, there is a certain honesty about the movie, especially dealing with the relationship between MJ and Peter.
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MJ is okay but where was Gwen?.... :(

Our resident Thunder God knows who I mean! :)
 
Originally posted by Dan26

As you can see, Spider-Man (currently at 354 million) has no hope of catching the original Star Wars. Spider-Man will probably end up with about 410 million, which is less tha half of what Star Wars made when adjusted for inflation.
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As I have said before there are too many variables to just do a CPI calculation and then compare the money made

For example is the price of cinema tickets even included in the CPi figures and secondly even if it is has the chagne in ticket prics been more or less than the CPI adjustment

How many moveis were avialable

How many cinemas were they showing in

What was marketing like

How popular was the cinema relatively in the days the movie was made

These days there are many mor things for poeple to chose from

Cleary the CPI adjusted figure can give you an indication, but certainly not an answer.
 
Pure ratio of cost to make to profit achieved the greatest grossing (emphasis on gross) movie ever is DEEP THROAT.

Cost something like $8,000 dollars to make, returned over a hundred million and now with the DVD release is still raking it in.
 
I saw spider-man about 2 weeks ago on VCD (DVD quality). It was good, but not my 'type'. Entertaining, but not in the league of "The Rock", "Forrest Gump", etc.

Probably the best comic-to-movie transition though, spruced it up to make it look modern. Superman was just crap (blue outfit and red tights? What were they thinking?? At least make it look semi-realistic!!) and Batman was just goofy (some of the gadgets just made me wanna laugh).
 
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
Superman was just crap (blue outfit and red tights? What were they thinking?? At least make it look semi-realistic!!)
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What do you want Superman to be dressed up like? Last time I checked he wear a blue outfit with red tights, and he has done for 60 years. Any move by Richard Donner to dress him any differently back in 1978 would have been farcical. He HAS to be dressed like that, because that is what he looks like.
 
Originally posted by Grendel
Pure ratio of cost to make to profit achieved the greatest grossing (emphasis on gross) movie ever is DEEP THROAT.

Cost something like $8,000 dollars to make, returned over a hundred million and now with the DVD release is still raking it in.
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I heard that the first Mad Max (screening tonight at the Astor with Mad Max II) was the highest 'grossing' film. Cost like $20,000 and grossed 30,000,000. Maybe it's the most grossing Australian film. :confused: :)
 

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Originally posted by Grendel
Pure ratio of cost to make to profit achieved the greatest grossing (emphasis on gross) movie ever is DEEP THROAT.

Cost something like $8,000 dollars to make, returned over a hundred million and now with the DVD release is still raking it in.
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Yep grendel. Spot on. :)
 
Originally posted by Dan26


Without adjusting for inflation, Titanic is the biggest movie ever. Star Wars is second. When adjusting for inflation, Spider-Man will not come close to Star Wars.

The first set of figures below are USA figures only and they are NOT adjusted for inflation. This makes the figues for Star Wars (1977) and Jaws (1975) remarkable.

1 Titanic 1997 $600,787,052
2 Star Wars 1977 $460,935,665
3 E.T. 1982 $434,949,459
4 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 1999 $431,065,444
5 Jurassic Park 1993 $357,067,947
6 Spider-Man 2002 $353,823,544-------------and counting
7 Forrest Gump 1994 $329,690,974
8 Harry Potter 2001 $317,557,891
9 The Lion King 1994 $312,855,561
10 The Lord of the Rings 2001 $311,053,126
11 Return of the Jedi 1983 $309,125,409
12 Independence Day 1996 $306,052,958
13 The Sixth Sense 1999 $293,476,912
14 The Empire Strikes Back 1980 $290,158,751
15 Home Alone 1990 $285,761,243
16 Shrek 2001 $267,652,016
17 How The Grinch Stole Christmas 2000 $260,031,035
18 Jaws 1975 $260,000,000
19 Monsters, Inc. 2001 $254,252,781
20 Batman 1989 $251,188
21 Men in Black 1997 $250,147
22 Toy Story 2 1999 $245,823,397
23 Raiders of the Lost Ark 1981 $242,374,454
24 Twister 1996 $241,688,385
25 Ghostbusters 1984 $238,632,124
26 Beverly Hills Cop 1984 $234,760,478
27 Cast Away 2000 $233,630,478
28 Star Wars: Attack of the Clones 2002 $232,324,344------and counting
29 The Lost World 1997 $229,086
30 Rush Hour 2 2001 $226,164,286

When adjusting for inflation, the figures are obviously different. Adjusting all ticket prices to 2002 dollars, the below figures are the TRUE representations. These are the true box-office champions of all time:

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.
1 Gone With the Wind 1939 $1,001.69 million (i.e one billion)
2 Star Wars 1977 $865.91 million
3 The Sound of Music 1965 $694.99 million
4 E.T. 1982 $687.3 million
5 Titanic 1997 $639.83 million
6 The Ten Commandments 1956 $639.32
7 Jaws 1975 $625.05
8 Doctor Zhivago 1965 $590.96
9 The Jungle Book 1967 $528.65
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 1937 $518.85
11 Ben-Hur 1959 $512.64
12 101 Dalmatians 1961 $500.87
13 The Exorcist 1973 $491.1
14 The Empire Strikes Back 1980 $468.62
15 Return of the Jedi 1983 $449.66
16 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace 1999 $442.15
17 The Sting 1973 $434.20
18 Mary Poppins 1964 $416.56
19 Raiders of the Lost Ark 1981 $415.03
20 Jurassic Park 1993 $410.35
21 The Graduate 1967 $407.30
22 Fantasia 1940 $395.32
23 The Godfather 1972 $378.21
24 Forrest Gump 1994 $375.49
25 The Lion King 1994 $356.32
26 Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1977 $354.36
27 Spider-Man 2002 $353.8
28 Sleeping Beauty 1959 $345.97
29 Grease 1978 $341.21
30 Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid 1969 $335.84

As you can see, Spider-Man (currently at 354 million) has no hope of catching the original Star Wars. Spider-Man will probably end up with about 410 million, which is less tha half of what Star Wars made when adjusted for inflation.
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Wheres Deuce Bigalow - Male Gigolo...... what a disgrace
 
Originally posted by Dan26


What do you want Superman to be dressed up like? Last time I checked he wear a blue outfit with red tights, and he has done for 60 years. Any move by Richard Donner to dress him any differently back in 1978 would have been farcical. He HAS to be dressed like that, because that is what he looks like.
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Look what they did with Spider-mans outfit. Took the ordinary look and made it a bit more dynamic. Compare the original Batman outfit from the 'Batman and Robin' series with the outfits from the '90s. They were all made to look good, the superman outfit is totally unimaginative and dull. It was surprising that criminals didn't just p*ss themselves laughing when they saw a guy with a cape and undies worn on the outside approaching them.
 
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
Superman was just crap (blue outfit and red tights? What were they thinking?? At least make it look semi-realistic!!) and Batman was just goofy (some of the gadgets just made me wanna laugh).
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the outfits they had were in direct coralation with the comic strips, they were taken from the comic books... :) This goes for Batman, Spiderman, The Hulk, Superman, etc......
 
Originally posted by mantis
Well it isn't my type of movie & I won't be seeing it even when it is on video, was just amazed when they said they thought it would overtake Star Wars as the biggest money making movie.
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Just speculation too get attention. Bit like your post. :p
 

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It was very good.

But they seriously stuffed the Green Goblins costume. The robotic mask was not a patch on the one I used to love in the comics.
It didn't even have ears for christs sake.

It'll be interesting to see which villain they'll use in the sequel.
Rhino used to my favourite. And the Venom story would also be good.
 
Originally posted by TheRealBuzz
It was very good.

But they seriously stuffed the Green Goblins costume. The robotic mask was not a patch on the one I used to love in the comics.
It didn't even have ears for christs sake.
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Yeah, the goblin costume was pretty much the only thing you could criticise along with his flying thingo (its capabilities was way to advanced and something a little more cumbersome would have been better).

Also if you wanted to be really picky, I think spideys physical capabilities were a little over the top aswell.

I think the most important thing about creating a movie from a comic book is making it as realistic and believable as possible. This was always going to be very difficult with Spiderman but they almost pulled it off.

Thumbs up to Spiderman but X-men is still the best comic-book-to-movie adaption.
 
Just saw it and i thought it was great...nothing on Episode 2 and i dont understand how it is beating Episode 2 at the box office but it was still fantastic.

Tobey Maguire is perfect for the role....instead of using DiCaprio with glasses??? Always was stupid, the whole Clark Kent, throw some glasses on him and nobody can see that its the same person. Maguire looks geeky but he can also be cool.

Dunst was freaking hot, ive always been a fan but now perhaps she can finally break away from teen comedies. If this movie had come out a couple of weeks ago i dare say she would be the winner of my little 100 Sexiest ive got going.

Superman needs to be revamped, when you see such great films like Batman, Batman Returns, Spider-Man, X-Men and soon Hulk...these are the new age movies taking advantage of todays special effects. Superman are classic movies but with todays special effects and lets face it, someone cooler than Chistopher Reeve as Superman, the movie would rock. There has been rumors for years that Superman 2000 was gonna be made with Nicolas Cage in the role but then you hear its off...then on...then off.

I think the best comic to movie adaptation was by far the original Batman. Batman Returns was also fantastic, when Keaton went so did the series. X-Men was fun but not serious enough, will see how the second movie pans out, the Hulk looks really good, a small preview at the start of Spidey but enough to suggest it will rock. Then there is Spider-Man, a fantastic movie, full of action, special effects, a hot chick...goodies and baddies. A real guy flick i thought...and lets face it Spider-Man is one cool dude.

One thing though for those Spider-Man fans, im not a comic reader so i wouldnt know, now that the Green Goblin is dead does his son become a baddie and like a second coming of Green Goblin as suggested at the end of the film? Also what other bad guys are there in Spider-Man world? Rhino....who's he? I know who Venom is, he is like a black version of Spidey....is that Octopuss guy in Spideys world...Dr Octopuss? Octopussy? Whats his name? Who is Spider-Man's arch nemesis? I always thought it was Green Goblin but now he's already dead. Superman had Lex Luthor, Batman had the Joker, who is Spideys?
 
Originally posted by jod23


One thing though for those Spider-Man fans, im not a comic reader so i wouldnt know, now that the Green Goblin is dead does his son become a baddie and like a second coming of Green Goblin as suggested at the end of the film? Also what other bad guys are there in Spider-Man world? Rhino....who's he? I know who Venom is, he is like a black version of Spidey....is that Octopuss guy in Spideys world...Dr Octopuss? Octopussy? Whats his name? Who is Spider-Man's arch nemesis? I always thought it was Green Goblin but now he's already dead. Superman had Lex Luthor, Batman had the Joker, who is Spideys?
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Hi Jod,

Please follow the link below to the Marvel website, it lists bio's of all the major Spidey villians (except Kingpin?).

http://www.marvel.com/comics/bios/bios_family_spiderman.htm

I thought it was an excellent movie, I should go and see it again soon. gotta love Kirsten Dunst!

Jerome
 
best comic to film movie to date......

i'm a hardcore spidey collector and have collected varuiopus titles over the past 15 years, the movie really captured what spidey was all about and stayed true to the comic (minus a few subtle changes) I'd been waiting for this film for about 5 years and it did not dissapoint. 5 stars.

As for Xmen being better, I thought Spidey was better simply because of the storyline and the general pace of the movie. Xmen was great but lacked a bit of intenisty IMO.
 

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