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Has to much to say for a man in his first year as head coach, If I was Dwight I wouldn't be to happy, this dude is the future of the Orlando Magic.

Howard is bigger than SVG, he needs to know this, hell Howard is bigger than the Magic, keep the guy happy.
 
Borgsta said:
He isn't in his first year as Head coach.How was it wrong?
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At Orlando..

Said that he and Howard have a bit of a problem and dont see eye to eye on what he should be doing as a Basketballer, Howard is not happy with not getting more looks at the basket and wants to be more offensive, SVG wants the big guy to play D and rebound and let others worry about scoring.

He wasnt backwards in coming forward on their relationship, if you google the press conferance of the Cavs-Magic game you will probably see exactly what he said. I just saw it on ESPN and the dudes persona and the way he talks about his players is very ahhh hmmm forthright.
 

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Van Gundy doesnt bullshit anyone. Calls it as he sees it. Its sure to ruffle feathers but its refreshing.

Reading the quote as it was, "
"His focus is on the offensive end. He gets discouraged when he doesn't get the ball. We need him to focus on defense and rebounding and that's not what he wants to do. We got a little bit of a conflict."

I cant see how that is a problem. Dwight's rebounding numbers have fell dramaticly lately and I reckon he needs a wake up call. Stan did it on a public level.
 
He used stats to back up his argument though.

Things like, the Magic are 22-3 when Dwight has 3 or more blocks, he's only had 5 blocks in the last 6 games, he had 23 20+ rebound games in the first 41 games of the season, and has had only 1 in the last 12.

Don't quote those numbers exactly but they're around the mark.
 
Troy Wingate said:
Imagine Mike Brown saying that to LeBron James. Danny Ferry would sack Brown on the spot.
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you don't get any better do you troy?

If Mike Brown thought Lebron wasn't pulling his weight - which he wasn't for much of last season - do you think he's being paid to sit idly by?

don't answer that.
 
phoenix_rise_ said:
Van Gundy doesnt bullshit anyone. Calls it as he sees it. Its sure to ruffle feathers but its refreshing.

Reading the quote as it was, "
"His focus is on the offensive end. He gets discouraged when he doesn't get the ball. We need him to focus on defense and rebounding and that's not what he wants to do. We got a little bit of a conflict."

I cant see how that is a problem. Dwight's rebounding numbers have fell dramaticly lately and I reckon he needs a wake up call. Stan did it on a public level.
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I saw the interview, it was more about the way he talked about Dwight, he spoke as if the 2 where at the point of no return. I know for 1 thing Dwight looked might pissed after the Cavs game.
 
cookie33 said:
I saw the interview, it was more about the way he talked about Dwight, he spoke as if the 2 where at the point of no return. I know for 1 thing Dwight looked might pissed after the Cavs game.
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Probably coz Van Gundy benched him. He had got 6 rebounds in 3 quarters and he's our premier rebounder, it's not good enough, I know I dont want him to turn into Amare by neglecting defending to try and get a couple more points on the offensive end. The Guards had more rebounds. It's not how it works. I think I'm leaning towards Stan on this one.
 
Crow-mo said:
you don't get any better do you troy?

If Mike Brown thought Lebron wasn't pulling his weight - which he wasn't for much of last season - do you think he's being paid to sit idly by?

don't answer that.
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If it was any other coach, perhaps.

Mike Brown is Lebron's bitch.
 
Dwight also said someting at 3 QTR Time I believe that got him benched by SVG.

Personally, I'd like to see the likes of Rashard Lewis actually get some rebounds to take the pressure of Dwight, but we'll likely have to acquire Haslem or Chris Wilcox to do that.

I would trade Lewis for a quality defensive SG right now if I could.
 
DBAH0 said:
I would trade Lewis for a quality defensive SG right now if I could.
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lol and who's going to take the ridiculous contract we gave him?


BTW:

OrlandoSentinel.com
Van Gundy sits Dwight Howard after clash

Brian Schmitz

Sentinel Staff Writer

10:41 AM EST, February 12, 2008

Orlando Magic Coach Stan Van Gundy says he and superstar Dwight Howard have "a little bit of conflict" and it finally manifested itself into Van Gundy's benching and postgame blasting of his all-star center on Monday night.

The Magic's 118-111 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers at Amway Arena became a footnote after the Howard-Van Gundy dustup.

Van Gundy said he sat Howard for a two-minute stretch of a fairly tight game in the fourth quarter after Howard said something he didn't like.

Neither Van Gundy nor Howard would volunteer what was said.

"That's going to be between Dwight and I, but his focus isn't where it needs to be," Van Gundy said. "I don't think right now we're on the same page, to be quite honest."

Van Gundy added that Howard said nothing derogatory toward him. Howard's comment was likely in the context of the game -- perhaps not getting the ball enough -- but it set off Van Gundy, a disciple of the Pat Riley school of accountability, superstar or not.

Van Gundy said after the Magic fell to 32-21 that Howard has been concentrating too much on scoring and not enough on defense and rebounding -- the real effort departments.

"His focus is on the offensive end," Van Gundy said. "He gets discouraged when he doesn't get the ball. I think the numbers prove that what we need him to focus on to win is defensive rebounding, but that's not what he wants to do right now and we've got a little bit of a conflict."

The on-court controversy is a first in Howard's three-plus seasons in Orlando. Howard said he and Van Gundy are "fine."

"There are no problems with me and Stan Van Gundy," Howard said. "It's just like when families have problems. We're going to have fights and disappointments."

Howard, 22, said he has to play harder and provide what Van Gundy wants for the team. He grabbed just nine rebounds, losing the NBA rebounding lead to Denver's Marcus Camby, whom he faces Wednesday night.

"I got frustrated a little bit," he said. "I got to do what's right for my team. They need me to be focused on what I can do. . . . If I don't do those things we're going to be a mediocre team."

The star and the coach likely will downplay their mini-feud today. Van Gundy has proven to be emotional and bombastic after losses, but his other concerns are not exaggerated.

The story line before the Howard-Van Gundy tiff was how the Cavs exposed their defensive weakness at point guard -- a problem underscored by Chauncey Billups in last season's Detroit-Orlando playoff series. Cavs point guard Larry Hughes did a LeBron James impersonation, scoring a season-high 40 points, including 23 in the third quarter.

Keyon Dooling, a free agent-in-waiting, might have earned himself a contract extension. Dooling is the Magic's best perimeter defender but couldn't chase Hughes wearing a suit. He sat out (sprained left mid-foot) after being unable to participate in Monday's pregame shoot-around.

Van Gundy might have taken his point guards, Jameer Nelson and Carlos Arroyo, to task.

"We kind of lost [Hughes] in the second half -- myself included," Nelson said.

And what of Rashard Lewis? The Magic's $118 million man had just 15 points on a night the club needed him to at least match James' 29.

The Magic melted down in the fourth period, responding with a rare hangdog demeanor.

"Our guys -- you could see it in timeouts and stuff -- just really hung their heads," Van Gundy said. "I thought they quit competing. That hasn't happened much to us."

Van Gundy benched Howard after a timeout and the Magic trailing by seven with just under six minutes left. They lost ground, Howard returning two minutes later with the Cavs leading 109-97.

Van Gundy made his point to Howard even with the game on the line.

"It's nothing," Howard said. "Me and Stan are good. It's nothing. We're family."
 
phoenix_rise_ said:
Probably coz Van Gundy benched him. He had got 6 rebounds in 3 quarters and he's our premier rebounder, it's not good enough, I know I dont want him to turn into Amare by neglecting defending to try and get a couple more points on the offensive end. The Guards had more rebounds. It's not how it works. I think I'm leaning towards Stan on this one.
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Amen.

Dwight may be the franchise but he has to work harder on defence and play team ball.

Im with Stan on this.
 

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jerry springer said:
118 million for a outside shooter.....

Orlando will fall apart in 2 years becaue of this contract
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It's certainly going to make things tight but I dont know about fall apart.

Even with Shard and Dwight we are in the bottom 5 of NBA team Salaries.
 
Lewis just looks a little lazy this season, seems like he waits for others to do the little things, the dude doesnt like to get dirty. Last season he was creating his own shot, all he does now is sit on the perimeter and wait for easy looks, LAZY LAZY LAZY.
 

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phoenix_rise_ said:
Van Gundy doesnt bullshit anyone. Calls it as he sees it. Its sure to ruffle feathers but its refreshing.

Reading the quote as it was, "
"His focus is on the offensive end. He gets discouraged when he doesn't get the ball. We need him to focus on defense and rebounding and that's not what he wants to do. We got a little bit of a conflict."

I cant see how that is a problem. Dwight's rebounding numbers have fell dramaticly lately and I reckon he needs a wake up call. Stan did it on a public level.
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24 rebounds today. :)
 

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