starting 22

[Crumden]

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Bowden Polak McMahon
C: Raines Tuck Tivendale
HF: Pettifer Pattison Edwards
F: Brown Richo Deledio
R: Simmonds Johnson Foley
I: Tambling Coughlan Riewoldt Polo
E: (from) Cotchin Connors Schulz Morton King

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Whether people like it or not, Johnson is still our second best midfielder and Tiv still our best wingman. But with that line-up we would be swinging the changes through the midfield pretty regularly with Deledio, Tambling, Coughlan, Edwards, Brown, Polo all rotating through.

The centreline remains our biggest weakness lacking a bit of class, but there are plenty of young blokes who, over time, could step into the breach.

Been thinking about this a bit more and I reckon we'll be seeing McMahon up on a wing and through the midfield a fair bit, the receiver on the end of the inside work from Cogs, Foley,Johnson, Tuck, Tambling etc, who can get into some space and get it long into the forward line.

 

[lids_tiger_army]

Raines - Thursty - McGaune

McMahon - Polak - Bowden

Tambling - Tucky - Newman

Petts - Riewoldt - Morton

Brown - Richo - Deledio

Simmo - Foley - Cogs


Polo - Patto - Johnson (C) - Edwards/Connors

Emerg: Cotchin - Tivva - Jackson - king

there is quite alot of ppl on here that have morton ahead of a few of the tiger regulars such as king for example..
how is this justified?? he may be a gun in the future but at the moment he needs to prove himself first, as for kingy he has the heart and soul our club needs to move forward.. we need him in the 22 any day of the week..

 

[richoatthedisco]

Quite easily:
1) He will be coming of a somewhat limited pre season due to his recovery from his blood clot. As such he might not have the tank to play a majority of the time in the ruck.
2) Lets not forget that in his final year at Freo he kicked 35 playing primarily at CHF.
3) He knows how to take a grab, is a pretty reliable kick so why not utilise that while also getting more development into Pattison in the ruck.
4) Who would you suggest gets played at CHF considering the other choices are: Pattison(coaching panel have talked about him playing there), Richo(getting a bit long in the tooth to expect the big lug to play CHF 22 weeks), Schulz, Hughes, Riewoldt(none of these 3 have really shown they are ready for the hardest position on the park), Polak(was recruited to play CHB) and while we may have recruited Gourdis with a view to the future he is still a couple of years away at least.

You need a bigger tank to play CHF than ruck, so if Simmo has limited fitness he has no hope. It is the hardest position on the ground to play and a ruckman has never succeeded at it. Ignore his age, Richo is still running like few others. The only other option is Polak, if he can get the wheels. Schulz is a FF (interested to see if he can play CHB - easiest position), Hughes is no good and Riewoldt a flanker. Patto might get the tank and the strength one day to be a workmanlike Earl Spalding type CHF. Otherwise, cross your fingers for Gourdis.

 

[TigerGlory]

B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Chris Newman
HB: Daniel Conners, Joel Bowden, Jordan McMahon
C: Andrew Raines, Kane Johnson, Mark Coughlan
HF: Nathan Brown, Graham Polak, Richard Tambling
F: Kayne Pettifer, Matthew Richardson, Jack Riewoldt
R: Troy Simmonds, Nathan Foley, Brett Deledio
I: Adam Pattison, Mitch Morton, Shane Tuck, Shane Edwards

 

[richoatthedisco]

there is quite alot of ppl on here that have morton ahead of a few of the tiger regulars such as king for example..
how is this justified?? he may be a gun in the future but at the moment he needs to prove himself first, as for kingy he has the heart and soul our club needs to move forward.. we need him in the 22 any day of the week..

Watched a fair bit of the game against North on Foxtel last night. King was our 2nd leading possession winner to 3/4 time. The only problem was his man (Grant) was the leading possession winner on the ground and had been involved in quite a few goals. That I see as the problem with King - he might have aggression, pace and know how to get the ball, BUT HE DOESN'T STOP HIS MAN! Any talk of him being a Libba-like scragger-tagger is crap if he can't do that. Frankly, you only ever get so far with those types anyway - anyone remember Libba or Steven Baker winning a flag?

 

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You need a bigger tank to play CHF than ruck, so if Simmo has limited fitness he has no hope. It is the hardest position on the ground to play and a ruckman has never succeeded at it. Ignore his age, Richo is still running like few others. The only other option is Polak, if he can get the wheels. Schulz is a FF (interested to see if he can play CHB - easiest position), Hughes is no good and Riewoldt a flanker. Patto might get the tank and the strength one day to be a workmanlike Earl Spalding type CHF. Otherwise, cross your fingers for Gourdis.

The issue these days though is that positions on the ground mean nothing. Simmonds could be named CHF but in reality spend the entire game playing out of a FP. When you're at the game next watch the forward line of both sides and see if anyone actually lines up in a traditional position. With the exception of FF/FB and the 4 in the middle (ruck/RR/rover/centre) everyone else pretty much heads off to whereever they feel like.

I named Simmonds up forward for the simple reason that I don't want to take Polak from down back where I think his marking can be a bigger asset than up forward mainly to his poor conversion rate (17.24 for his career). While players like Riewoldt(don't think he'll be an AFL CHF), Hughes(probably our best option at present to become CHF) or Schulz(think he is best suited to playing FF) are not quite ready to take the key forward positions I think it would be a better structured forward line with experienced heads like Richo, Brown, Pettifer and Simmonds (all 4 require a quality opponent) playing along side kids like the 3 above as well as Edwards/Cotchin/Morton. Takes the heat of them to a degree and allows them to gain experience without feeling like they need to be the foacl point all the time.

 

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I'm surprised that so many people want Newman to move into the centre of the ground... very surprised.

He's been in the system for 7-8 years now, he's had every chance in the world to grab a midfield spot but just has not come on. He's skills are brilliant, but he doesnt possess the midfield engine.

Too late for mine.

I for one will hope that Deledio, Tambling, Polo and Co take the chance that he has missed. If they dont, then we're in strife.

Newman was being groomed for it a couple of years back and then due to retirements and injuries had to go back and cover spots in the backline. In 06 I believe he was spending more time up the ground in a run with role and then suffered the broken leg. Watching the last few games of this season when he had been back for practically the whole season I saw him moving through the midfield more often. If given the chance I think Newy could be a very good rotation type who would give others a 5 minute breather in the middle of a quarter and we would not lose anything by that happening.

 

[LuKe2428]

SImilar to Realistic Tiger's with a few changes to positions and 22.

B: Newman Thursfield McGuane
HB: Bowden Polak McMahon
C: Raines Tuck Tivendale
HF: Pettifer Pattison Edwards
F: Brown Richo Deledio
R: Simmonds Johnson Foley
I: Tambling Coughlan Riewoldt Polo
E: (from) Cotchin Connors Schulz Morton King

It is a bit of a toss-up for me between Reiwoldt and Schulz. Also King, Cotchin, Connors, Morton and probably half a dozen others are not far behind Raines, Polo, Edwards, Tiv at the moment. Performances in the pre-season will determine who fills the last few spots. McGuane might also come under some pressure from new boys like Rance but should have the edge to begin with.

Whether people like it or not, Johnson is still our second best midfielder and Tiv still our best wingman. But with that line-up we would be swinging the changes through the midfield pretty regularly with Deledio, Tambling, Coughlan, Edwards, Brown, Polo all rotating through.

The centreline remains our biggest weakness lacking a bit of class, but there are plenty of young blokes who, over time, could step into the breach. I originally had Tambling in the middle, but that left Tuck, Cogs and Polo all starting on the bench. We probably need the grunt of at least one of those at the first centre bounce. I went with Tuck because Cogs and Polo are returning from injury, but any of the three would do. Tambling would give some fresh pace off the bench and would come on pretty soon after the intial hurly burly.

Not sure if Cogs will be starting 22 for round 1 or play a few at Coburg. Cotchin or Connors would be good replacements.

I'd prefer to see Tambling move into the guts this year because I think he is more effective there than out on a flank or wing, and I'd like to see Raines given a shot on a wing because I reckon its a more natural position for him. Polo, Connors, Morton, Edwards, Cotchin, JON or Meyer could also step up for a spot across the centreline if they can show they are good enough.

The other current weakness is support for Simmonds at ruck/CHF, though Patto will fill that with a bit more experience. As much as Patto improved last year, he went from being a long way from AFL to being almost good enough for second ruckman duties. Maybe a big off-season will be enough because he wasn't too far away by the end of last season and still improving. The ruckmen would at various times in a game rest up forward or on the bench, when Reiwoldt would go forward (or back and Polak could be the swingman).

the toss up would have to go riewoldt he is like 4 years younger if you dnt play him he wont get expiriance swap newman with rains newman>>>rains in foot skills

 

[I love DELEDIO]

B: Kingy Thursfield Rance
HB:Mcmahon Polak Bowden
C: Tambling Cogs Polo
HF:Morton Richo Pettifer
F: Brown Deledio Edwards

Followers
Simmo Cotchin Foley

Interchange
Tiv Newman Tuck Moore Graham

Emergencies
JON
Schultz
Riewoldt
Mcguane

 

[rocklovelive]

B: C Newman, W Thursfield, L McGuane
HB: A Raines, G Polak, J Bowden
C: G Tivendale, S Tuck, D Polo
HF: B Deledio, M Richardson, K Pettifer
F: N Brown J Schulz, R Tambling
R: T Simmonds, K Johnson, N Foley

INT:A Pattison, J King, J McMahon, T Cotchin
EMG:C Hughes, D Connors, S Edwards

 

[TIGER ROCKET]

my best 22(25 actually i am adding three emergencies

b mcguane thursfield raines

hb mcmahon polak newman

c meyer coughlan connors

hf j king pettifer j bowden

f deledio richardson brown

rucks simmonds tuck
rover foley

inter cotchin,k johnson,edwards and pattison

emergencies polo,m morton and tambling

i didn't pick any new recruits except for cotchin and mcmahon as mcmahon's reputation deserves a best 22 spot and a number two draft pick should also be in our best 22.
i haven't seen snything of morton,putt,and rance to place them in the side.
i picked meyer on blind faith that he may just have a breakout year.
put bowden on a half forward line as he can take a mark and jake would be a good defensive pressure forward.bit like aaron davey.
obviously certain positions are interchangeable like bowden back to the backline and i almost considered connors for the back pocket as i believe he would be a good choice for kick outs.

 

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B: C Newman, W Thursfield, L McGuane
HB: A Raines, G Polak, J Bowden
C: G Tivendale, S Tuck, D Polo
HF: B Deledio, M Richardson, K Pettifer
F: N Brown J Schulz, R Tambling
R: T Simmonds, K Johnson, N Foley

INT:A Pattison, J King, J McMahon, T Cotchin
EMG:C Hughes, D Connors, S Edwards

Not a bad line up at all, just wondering where the likes of Coughlan & Morton fit into your plans.

 

[lids_tiger_army]

my best 22(25 actually i am adding three emergencies

b mcguane thursfield raines

hb mcmahon polak newman

c meyer coughlan connors

hf j king pettifer j bowden

f deledio richardson brown

rucks simmonds tuck
rover foley

inter cotchin,k johnson,edwards and pattison

emergencies polo,m morton and tambling

i didn't pick any new recruits except for cotchin and mcmahon as mcmahon's reputation deserves a best 22 spot and a number two draft pick should also be in our best 22.
i haven't seen snything of morton,putt,and rance to place them in the side.
i picked meyer on blind faith that he may just have a breakout year.
put bowden on a half forward line as he can take a mark and jake would be a good defensive pressure forward.bit like aaron davey.
obviously certain positions are interchangeable like bowden back to the backline and i almost considered connors for the back pocket as i believe he would be a good choice for kick outs.

might wanna swap those around.. meyer ahead of tambling and polo... no way