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Rumour Stefan Martin?

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Mark_K said:
Position of need or not, Wellngham can net you a lot more than Stefan Martin, surely.
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Martin is actually a quality player especially when compared to Leroy Brown and Dawes as a 2nd ruck.

As has already been said he has had injuries this year and then fell out of favour with Neeld for what ever reason, maybe something as simple as they want to develop a younger ruck.

Melbourne aren't in the business to win games only better draft picks.;)

Also in our system I can only see his game improving, Melbournes development systems suck a massive wang.

You can't get as many top picks wrong like they have it has to fall back on development.
 
loki04 said:
Martin is actually a quality player especially when compared to Leroy Brown and Dawes as a 2nd ruck.

As has already been said he has had injuries this year and then fell out of favour with Neeld for what ever reason, maybe something as simple as they want to develop a younger ruck.

Melbourne aren't in the business to win games only better draft picks.;)
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Same can be said for us why would Melbourne help us get closer to a flag?
 

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Wellingham for Martin plus some draft pick-swapping is something I'd at least consider.

It's not just a matter of comparing the talents of the two players, it's about need- and we need a second ruckman (ie another Leigh Brown) in the worst possible way. Jolly needs help, and we need to have a Plan B with big bodies down forward. Ceglar and Witts are not ready yet, and they may or may not be able to function as a resting forward long-term.

Wellingham is a mature-bodied midfielder, which is something that Melbourne need badly too- IIRC, he played a blinder against them on one of the Queen's Birthday clashes. He was also famously on offer during the Luke Ball trade fiasco in 2009.

We can cover the midfield in terms of depth- but we have no cover in the ruck or KPF department. Wellingham may well be a 'better' player than Martin, but needs may dictate that they have equal trade value. Can't expect Melbourne to give something without getting something in return.. not sure how much a draft pick from the 3rd round on-wards would be of any use to them either, they need to start getting competitive.
 
To the guy that was saying Martin couldn't a game for us, that is blatantly wrong. Martin was always straight in when fit, but unfortunately like a lot of our list was injured a lot this season.

I'd prefer to keep him, but a trade for Wellingham seems tempting. Then we could pick up Grundy in the draft.
 

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LBJ6 said:
To the guy that was saying Martin couldn't a game for us, that is blatantly wrong. Martin was always straight in when fit, but unfortunately like a lot of our list was injured a lot this season.

I'd prefer to keep him, but a trade for Wellingham seems tempting. Then we could pick up Grundy in the draft.
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Wouldn't your 1st Rounder be for Viney.

We need a Another Mature Ruckman because Jolly is wearing Down and Dawes as a 2nd Ruckman is Usless
 
TradeDraft said:
Wouldn't your 1st Rounder be for Viney.

We need a Another Mature Ruckman because Jolly is wearing Down and Dawes as a 2nd Ruckman is Usless
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We have picks 3,4 and 13 if Viney goes in the second round, and picks 4 and 13 if Viney goes first round thanks to Scully compo picks.
 
Ron said:
Wellingham for Martin?

**** i'll even throw in a draft pick to make that happen.
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I agree wellingham is Overrated and we need another Ruckman as Dawes in that Posting is F**king Usless
 
LBJ6 said:
We have picks 3,4 and 13 if Viney goes in the second round, and picks 4 and 13 if Viney goes first round thanks to Scully compo picks.
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Only GC or GWS bidding Pick 1 or Pick 2 can make us decide if we use Pick 3 on Viney.

Martin is an interesting player. Showed good signs in 2011 as a ruck who can go also go forward. Exceptionally athletic for his size. Can do something freaky in general play but can also then not capitalise on his hard work. Was limited this year due to injury.

In terms of Dees list management if they decide he is behind Jamar as Nm 1 Ruck and behind Mitch Clark as Key Forward who can relieve in the ruck (aka the Leigh Brown role) then Dees have to make a decision in terms of both list management and salary cap management. We might keep him and play as Forward along side Clark with Jamar as First Ruck.

Certainly won't be given away 'cheaply'. There'd be a few clubs interested because of his flexibilty. The Maggies would be one definitely given their problems trying to replace the Brown role.
 
demoniac said:
Only GC or GWS bidding Pick 1 or Pick 2 can make us decide if we use Pick 3 on Viney.

Martin is an interesting player. Showed good signs in 2011 as a ruck who can go also go forward. Exceptionally athletic for his size. Can do something freaky in general play but can also then not capitalise on his hard work. Was limited this year due to injury.

In terms of Dees list management if they decide he is behind Jamar as Nm 1 Ruck and behind Mitch Clark as Key Forward who can relieve in the ruck (aka the Leigh Brown role) then Dees have to make a decision in terms of both list management and salary cap management. We might keep him and play as Forward along side Clark with Jamar as First Ruck.

Certainly won't be given away 'cheaply'. There'd be a few clubs interested because of his flexibilty. The Maggies would be one definitely given their problems trying to replace the Brown role.
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Would you take Wellingham for him?
 

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Martin, good player. At 25 still a bit of a speculative tall. Wellingham, premiership player, can go the Swan role and get mega touches, or defensive mid, or kick goals. No trade. Not even in a blizzard.

If Wellers really does wish to get back to his Western roots, guess there is Zac Clarke or the Q-Stick from over there. Yet wasn't the last we heard that Wellers wanted to re-sign here and that he was one of a couple of 'sacrificial lambs' left till the end of the interminable Cloke machinations?
 
twaters said:
Martin, good player. At 25 still a bit of a speculative tall. Wellingham, premiership player, can go the Swan role and get mega touches, or defensive mid, or kick goals. No trade. Not even in a blizzard.

If Wellers really does wish to get back to his Western roots, guess there is Zac Clarke or the Q-Stick from over there. Yet wasn't the last we heard that Wellers wanted to re-sign here and that he was one of a couple of 'sacrificial lambs' left till the end of the interminable Cloke machinations?
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Freo would want more then Wellingham for Clarke.

I see Seedsman being as good or even better then Wellingham
 
Wellingham is to busy worrying about his fringe getting in his way from seeing the ball and play. He was good in 2010 and we could see him becoming a star. Well that hasn't happened, infact he has gone down hill. We already have alot of midfielders, losing Wellingham will not hurt the club.

I don't think I would be keen to do that trade with Martin because I think they will come much better from it. I would rather try and get Gumbledon, 197cm tall with a great grab and looks like he is gone past his injury woes an upgrade on Dawes.

Personally, no to Martin but would also be happy as well if he came to us.
 
TradeDraft said:
Freo would want more then Wellingham for Clarke.

I see Seedsman being as good or even better then Wellingham
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Get off the grass Dave. He may be, but that's just wacky talk. No-one will give over anything for someone who went very late in the draft and has potential.
 
Old Spice said:
Get off the grass Dave. He may be, but that's just wacky talk. No-one will give over anything for someone who went very late in the draft and has potential.
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Well if the Need is Big Enough and the People at the Club believe in the Player then Overs can be Paid,

You could say we over paid for Wood
 

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