AFLW Autopsy Swans v. GWS - Round 06 - 21 Sep 1:05 PM at Henson Park

[SwansProudly]

 

[Voula]

Really disappointing to lose 2 games in a row that we should have won.

And I HATE losing to GWS.

 

[Voula]

Missing Hurley is making a huge difference although they seem to have become a bit complacent in the last couple of weeks since the good start to the season.
Very messy and fumbly.

Yeah we haven't been clean with the ball. And it really hurts when we drop marks and turn it over by foot/hand. They seem to have lost confidence.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

2nd bad performance.

The blueprint for defeating us is pretty simple. Give no space, bring the pressure and run hard out the back. I hate to single out a player but I thought Darcy Moloney was completely off today. She gave up multiple turn overs and then struggled to chase and run. Her performance was in complete contrast to her earlier efforts this year.

But she was not alone with the rest of the team poor. We were fumbly, and had poor execution. We were constantly caught out the back with GWS running harder. I think Scotty has a few problems and it is time to make a few changes to try and spark the team.

Good for us were Kennedy, Gardiner, Morphett and Fish. The rest were OK at best, poor at worst.

 

[Ticky009]

Poor performance in front of a great crowd. Gave us very little to cheer about bar that 10 minutes burst in the 2nd quarter.

Overshot our kicks, behind the ball all day, couldn't take a mark to save ourselves but nail in the coffin was poor decision making under pressure. We'd deliver the ball back into traffic or turn it over without a player in sight.

Gowans and the coaches have some work to do.

 

[Jack Lord]

The worst thing is the media built us up to be this incredible team after four rounds when all we'd beaten were the cats and rubbish. Bit of a reality check to where we are at. Like to see the girls scrap a place for finals - we're still fifth after all - but we're not looking like it at the moment.

 

[Jack Lord]

The AFLW team reminds me a bit of the men's team. Just not enough class or mongrel.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

The worst thing is the media built us up to be this incredible team after four rounds when all we'd beaten were the cats and rubbish. Bit of a reality check to where we are at. Like to see the girls scrap a place for finals - we're still fifth after all - but we're not looking like it at the moment.

To be fair, we were playing some cracking footy in the first 4 rounds. Yes, it was against some pretty average teams, other then the Cats but I think we adapted very quickly to the new HTB rule and were playing with good pressure. For whatever reason, we have dropped our intensity but at the same time, GWS and Pies really brought theirs.

 

[Mister B]

So Mr B and I are right near the microphones. We apologise for the noise

I apologise for nothing.

 

[Mister B]

Sadly with how we are playing we will lose 6 in a row and may win the final 2 to be 6-6 for the season. This one club thing is great and all but we are losing the same way in the men’s and women’s. AND CAN WE PLEASE STOP USING THE ****ING ZONE DEFENCE!!!

 

[joeykanga]

Tanya the standout by a mile. Sofia is a big hole to fill. She delivers so well inside 50 and offers that spread that we need. I feel like the Chloe show the first few rounds was a lot to do with the delivery from Sofia.
Tanya was outstanding

 

[joeykanga]

Tanya the standout by a mile. Sofia is a big hole to fill. She delivers so well inside 50 and offers that spread that we need. I feel like the Chloe show the first few rounds was a lot to do with the delivery from Sofia.
Tanya was outstanding

Sarah Grunden and Lara Hausseger were not too bad and Ally saved us a few times with her marks. Why arent we changing the midfield up a little more and perhaps getting Cynthia in or Chloe earlier. Its like their talent is being wasted. The ball was being delivered poorly into the 50 and those 2 became bystanders playing up forward when gws were doing so well intercepting in their back half. I also think that Paris is not of the standard of the Irish players most other teams have...just doesnt have that star quality or the skills of the Irish girls in the other teams

 

[RnR from RWO]

The worst thing is the media built us up to be this incredible team after four rounds when all we'd beaten were the cats and rubbish. Bit of a reality check to where we are at. Like to see the girls scrap a place for finals - we're still fifth after all - but we're not looking like it at the moment.

It wasn't just the media that was talking us up. There were more than a few Swan supporters on BF that had unrealistic expectations too.

 

[Magbrix]

I was at the game yesterday- gorgeous day at the footy, not so much the swans. Aside from agreeing with all of the above- the inaccurate kicks, handballs and marking- was the complete lack of forward pressure - ugh!!

 

[Aardvark]

Well at least Scotty won't have to worry about planning for a 16 week season!

 

[SwansProudly]

VOTES PLAYER (CLUB)

10 Zarlie Goldsworthy GWS
4 Katherine Smith GWS
4 Laura Gardiner SYD
3 Zippy Fish SYD
3 Tanya Kennedy SYD
2 Brodee Mowbray GWS
2 Sara Howley GWS
1 Tarni Evans GWS
1 Mikayla Pauga GWS

Coaches Votes: Swans midfielders poll in Round 6

One Swan has polled votes from the coaches for the third week in a row.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

Leaderboard​

Votes	Player	Club
51	Ash Riddell	NMFC
49	Georgie Prespakis	GEEL
38	Tyla Hanks	MELB
35	Kate Hore	MELB
35	Ella Roberts	WCE
32	Brittany Bonnici	COLL
32	Jasmine Garner	NMFC
29	Kiara Bowers	FRE
29	Georgia Nanscawen	ESS
26	Laura Gardiner	SYD
26	Eliza West	HAW
24	Monique Conti	RICH
24	Erone Fitzpatrick	CARL
24	Chloe Molloy	SYD

AFLW Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

aflcoaches.com.au

 

[Voula]

VOTES PLAYER (CLUB)

10 Zarlie Goldsworthy GWS
4 Katherine Smith GWS
4 Laura Gardiner SYD
3 Zippy Fish SYD
3 Tanya Kennedy SYD
2 Brodee Mowbray GWS
2 Sara Howley GWS
1 Tarni Evans GWS
1 Mikayla Pauga GWS

Coaches Votes: Swans midfielders poll in Round 6

One Swan has polled votes from the coaches for the third week in a row.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

Leaderboard​

Votes	Player	Club
51	Ash Riddell	NMFC
49	Georgie Prespakis	GEEL
38	Tyla Hanks	MELB
35	Kate Hore	MELB
35	Ella Roberts	WCE
32	Brittany Bonnici	COLL
32	Jasmine Garner	NMFC
29	Kiara Bowers	FRE
29	Georgia Nanscawen	ESS
26	Laura Gardiner	SYD
26	Eliza West	HAW
24	Monique Conti	RICH
24	Erone Fitzpatrick	CARL
24	Chloe Molloy	SYD

AFLW Champion Player of the Year - AFL Coaches Association Awards - AFL Coaches Association

aflcoaches.com.au

Interesting that the coaches could only agree on Zarli.

 

[Callipygian]

It wasn't just the media that was talking us up. There were more than a few Swan supporters on BF that had unrealistic expectations too.

I confess I was one of them. I think I got ahead of where we're at after that impressive performance against the Suns.

However I don't at all agree, Jack Lord that we lack class and mongrel. I think it's mostly our inexperience showing. I think we have plenty of classy players and also ample mongrel (Cynthia comes immediately to mind, Chloe is as ruthless as she needs to be, Ham can be ferocious (but is a bit inconsistent), Kennedy lacks for nothing, Darcy Moloney actually has a bit of mongrel and class but possibly needs some more discipline and focus).

I also think we still need to improve our list. We lack depth, height and experience. Each year our list is going to improve (but so will the competition) and I'm optimistic we will build season on season. I'm not ready to draw parallels with the men's team yet. I'm also not writing the season off but it's going to be tough with the fixture in front of us.

I'm backing us to bounce back strongly this week and, to be honest, I would willingly cop these last two losses if we can knock off Adelaide, which is not out of the question.

****

As to this GWS game more specifically, Gowans outlined the issue very clearly: we weren't playing to our structures. He didn't question our effort or intent but said that in our desire to help out our teammates we were abandoning our role and the structures and getting sucked towards the contest which meant that afterwards we either had nobody to kick to or couldn't defend depending on whether we had won or lost the contest. He also connected that issue to our being the least experienced team in the comp (and the second youngest by just a month or two on average age).

Another point that has been made is that our game plan has been found out: Collingwood said they felt really confident coming to play us because they believed that if they could take our kicking game away from us they would win, and so it proved. GWS seem to have followed that blueprint and we haven't stood up to the pressure.

 

[Callipygian]

My comments above also go some way to explaining the discrepancy in the coaches votes. I'm pretty confident, based on Gowans' press conference, that we gave 3 votes to Tanya Kennedy and no other votes to our own players. I think Giants gave Zippy votes because she was so damaging with the ball in hand (she really was!); and we didn't because she didn't do what she was meant to when we didn't have possession (Gowans pretty much says this in his post-match presser). I also think that Gardiner is absolute workhorse and gives so much effort but her ball use is not the best and perhaps she was another that was guilty of not sticking to our structures hence why we would not have rewarded her with votes. Conversely Gowans was asked about Tanya's performance and he pointedly said she did everything that was asked of her and wished she was younger so we would have her for more years to come.

 

[Kiama Chris]

I confess I was one of them. I think I got ahead of where we're at after that impressive performance against the Suns.

However I don't at all agree, Jack Lord that we lack class and mongrel. I think it's mostly our inexperience showing. I think we have plenty of classy players and also ample mongrel (Cynthia comes immediately to mind, Chloe is as ruthless as she needs to be, Ham can be ferocious (but is a bit inconsistent), Kennedy lacks for nothing, Darcy Moloney actually has a bit of mongrel and class but possibly needs some more discipline and focus).

I also think we still need to improve our list. We lack depth, height and experience. Each year our list is going to improve (but so will the competition) and I'm optimistic we will build season on season. I'm not ready to draw parallels with the men's team yet. I'm also not writing the season off but it's going to be tough with the fixture in front of us.

I'm backing us to bounce back strongly this week and, to be honest, I would willingly cop these last two losses if we can knock off Adelaide, which is not out of the question.

****

As to this GWS game more specifically, Gowans outlined the issue very clearly: we weren't playing to our structures. He didn't question our effort or intent but said that in our desire to help out our teammates we were abandoning our role and the structures and getting sucked towards the contest which meant that afterwards we either had nobody to kick to or couldn't defend depending on whether we had won or lost the contest. He also connected that issue to our being the least experienced team in the comp (and the second youngest by just a month or two on average age).

Another point that has been made is that our game plan has been found out: Collingwood said they felt really confident coming to play us because they believed that if they could take our kicking game away from us they would win, and so it proved. GWS seem to have followed that blueprint and we haven't stood up to the pressure.

 

[SwansProudly]

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Loving watching the girls this season and Zippy is awesome a crowd favourite already.

Boy we need to not start the lazy kicks that's what cost the game on the weekend it happens as a youngish team it can.

 

[Jack Lord]

I confess I was one of them. I think I got ahead of where we're at after that impressive performance against the Suns.

However I don't at all agree, Jack Lord that we lack class and mongrel. I think it's mostly our inexperience showing. I think we have plenty of classy players and also ample mongrel (Cynthia comes immediately to mind, Chloe is as ruthless as she needs to be, Ham can be ferocious (but is a bit inconsistent), Kennedy lacks for nothing, Darcy Moloney actually has a bit of mongrel and class but possibly needs some more discipline and focus).

I also think we still need to improve our list. We lack depth, height and experience. Each year our list is going to improve (but so will the competition) and I'm optimistic we will build season on season. I'm not ready to draw parallels with the men's team yet. I'm also not writing the season off but it's going to be tough with the fixture in front of us.

I'm backing us to bounce back strongly this week and, to be honest, I would willingly cop these last two losses if we can knock off Adelaide, which is not out of the question.

****

As to this GWS game more specifically, Gowans outlined the issue very clearly: we weren't playing to our structures. He didn't question our effort or intent but said that in our desire to help out our teammates we were abandoning our role and the structures and getting sucked towards the contest which meant that afterwards we either had nobody to kick to or couldn't defend depending on whether we had won or lost the contest. He also connected that issue to our being the least experienced team in the comp (and the second youngest by just a month or two on average age).

Another point that has been made is that our game plan has been found out: Collingwood said they felt really confident coming to play us because they believed that if they could take our kicking game away from us they would win, and so it proved. GWS seem to have followed that blueprint and we haven't stood up to the pressure.

Good post and convincing points about class & mongrel. Happy to stand corrected, Callipygian