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TigerImposter said:
What will interest me is if we will be able to maintain this intensity against more bigger bodied sides especially later in the game.
Our tackling and quality of it will be interesting to see when fatigue levels Increase.
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I'm hoping we can keep it up , this is the thing with footy it's an old saying but if you go off your intensity by a tiny % you get beaten , bring the same intensity every week and play like your life dependant goes along way to winning a flag , obviously other things along with that as well .
 
DrMike said:
Still the most tackles at the completion of the round
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_team_rankings?year=2017&type=TT&sby=6
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Wow yr 8 and the penny has finally dropped.
Cmon every man and his dog have been going on about this 88tackles is somewhere around the ball park maybe top end but when you think P/A had well over 100 tackles against us last yr somewhere around 65 90 should be the norm.
It is a positive and not before time now lets see if we keep it up.
 
This Is Anfield said:
It wasn't a tackle and some won't like it but Houli's chase on a much quicker Pickett epitomised the massively improved mindset of the group.
Last season he waltzes in and goals, or sets one up, Thursday night Bachar did enough to put him right off and no score.
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Houli has always been an extremely hard worker. Might be labelled as 'soft' but he will never give up on that chase.
 
mopsy said:
Wow yr 8 and the penny has finally dropped.
Cmon every man and his dog have been going on about this 88tackles is somewhere around the ball park maybe top end but when you think P/A had well over 100 tackles against us last yr somewhere around 65 90 should be the norm.
It is a positive and not before time now lets see if we keep it up.
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It's what us fans wanted, Mopsy ... more tackling! ;)
 
Goldust said:
Had a quiet chuckle when I heard Dimma in his presser saying something along the lines of it's what the fans wanted - more pressure and tackling - and it what we want.
So the fans are dictating the game plan.
I would have thought without fans, tackling and pressure are paramount in football and non-negotiables.
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Jesus thats drawing a long bow goldy...:rolleyes:
 
TigerImposter said:
What will interest me is if we will be able to maintain this intensity against more bigger bodied sides especially later in the game.
Our tackling and quality of it will be interesting to see when fatigue levels Increase.
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Fatigue levels get pretty bad on round 1.. they get fitter over the course of the year.

Oh and carlton took in a very tall team. So yea they were tackling big bodies
 

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tunksy said:
Fatigue levels get pretty bad on round 1.. they get fitter over the course of the year.

Oh and carlton took in a very tall team. So yea they were tackling big bodies
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Tackling a lot of undersized thin kids.Fatigue i meant by running hard for three quarters and then maintaining the same intensity as we have some pretty young and light on kids.
 
the forward line pressure was amazing! the trading of Vickery forces us to go smaller, Grif spent a lot in ruck or resting on bench forcing a smaller more mobile forward line for majority of match. Even dustys tackling and pressure was at a level i've never seen from him! In the past its been a zoning type pressure cutting off the next handball which teams just work through with numbers at the ball now its the ball user is number one priority!

only round 1 but keep that up all year and I'm happy!
 
tunksy said:
Jesus thats drawing a long bow goldy...:rolleyes:
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It's sarcastic I know, but it's an odd thing to say.
The fans wanted more tackling, so we are trying it???
It was as someone else said, the penny dropped that you can't win meaningful games by having 30 tackles.
It's astounding ... Dimma was renowned hard-nut and tackling beast yet his teams have played bruise free footy.
 
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/e6a0f1643361471b1670aa8d366a89c7
Richmond records its best tackle, pressure numbers in years against Carlton
IT’S been a thorn in the Richmond side for years.

In a trend that winds all the way back to the Terry Wallace era, the Tigers have always been one of the lowest-ranked tackling sides in the AFL.

Forward half pressure has been a dream more than a reality at Punt Rd.

But perhaps the bruise-free days are over now.

In one of the most significant tactical storylines to come out of the opening round was the new-found snarl in the Tigers’ front half. And the youthful exuberance behind it.

Speedsters Jason Castagna (20), Dan Butler (20) and Daniel Rioli (19) might all still be young enough to be on their P-plates, and have played only 25 AFL games combined, but their impact in the 43-point win over Carlton at the MCG would have been even more invigorating for the Tigers’ faithful than the Dustin Martin show on Thursday night.

In what has often been a safe zone for the opposition, Richmond applied the most forward-half pressure and created the most forward-half turnovers of any team in Round 1, sending a message to rivals the revamped Richmond had a speedy, ruthless edge to it in attack.

As ruck recruit Toby Nankervis said on 3AW after the match: “We have been encouraged to play on instinct”.

Pundits may say it was only against Carlton, one of the favourites for the wooden spoon. Clearly, a tougher test against Collingwood awaits in Thursday night’s MCG blockbuster.

But, when combined with the Tigers’ more direct and fast-paced ball movement, Richmond’s new forward line pressure means that the club has a clear and defined game style now. They want to go hunting, the Tigers.

Richmond’s 34 forward-half turnovers against the Blues was their most in a game since Round 22, 2012, according to Champion Data.

Their 72 points scored from this area was the most Richmond has scored under Hardwick.

Their 86 tackles was 10 more than their best effort last season.

And seemingly everyone was getting involved. Nick Vlastuin led the charge with a team high 61 pressure points, followed by skipper Trent Cotchin (46), Castagna (46) and Rioli (41). Even spearhead and new leadership group member Jack Riewoldt (41) was helping set the tone.

The Tigers slammed home a whopping 20 goals against the Blues and regular leading goalkickers Riewoldt and Sam Lloyd contributed only two of them.

While Martin booted four, and would have had six if it wasn’t for two unselfish giveaways to Butler and Shaun Grigg, ultimately it was the frenzied harassing and chasing that sparked Richmond to its biggest scoreline since the Tigers punished Brisbane at the Gabba two years ago.
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Well picked up KK - was going to say the same thing - our low tackle counts of recent years is not new phenomenon. I recall a game when we just ticked over 20, less than one per player. I would suggest without knowing the facts that we have been a low tackling side since perhaps 1983. I'm being silly but there might be a shred of truth in the silliness

I don't care that we are not getting rewarded with free kicks - not sure that is the purpose. It's more about creating rush and panic, surprise, surprise Doggies of 2015/2016. Dimma is anything but original. Perhaps Dimma is having a few cathartic moments:D

Like Goldy, I went to two games on the weekend, including the Doggies / Pies. The Pies still try and play possession football, chipping around the ball as the Tiges tried to do for many years. They seemed to get on top when they rushed the ball forward directly. I wonder whether Dimma will be tempted to stop the rush and panic game plan for that game and let Collingwood enjoy it's possession gameplan of back and sideways style..........?
 
Phar Ace said:
The Pies still try and play possession football, chipping around the ball as the Tiges tried to do for many years. They seemed to get on top when they rushed the ball forward directly. I wonder whether Dimma will be tempted to stop the rush and panic game plan for that game and let Collingwood enjoy it's possession gameplan of back and sideways style..........?
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We'll just tighten the noose defensively IMO, no change to how we play offensively

they wanna play a hand-break chip style then we'll make them regret it
 

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Phar Ace said:
Well picked up KK - was going to say the same thing - our low tackle counts of recent years is not new phenomenon. I recall a game when we just ticked over 20, less than one per player. I would suggest without knowing the facts that we have been a low tackling side since perhaps 1983. I'm being silly but there might be a shred of truth in the silliness

I don't care that we are not getting rewarded with free kicks - not sure that is the purpose. It's more about creating rush and panic, surprise, surprise Doggies of 2015/2016. Dimma is anything but original. Perhaps Dimma is having a few cathartic moments:D

Like Goldy, I went to two games on the weekend, including the Doggies / Pies. The Pies still try and play possession football, chipping around the ball as the Tiges tried to do for many years. They seemed to get on top when they rushed the ball forward directly. I wonder whether Dimma will be tempted to stop the rush and panic game plan for that game and let Collingwood enjoy it's possession gameplan of back and sideways style..........?
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All true mate .... I noticed it early in the first and second quarters while at the Collingwood-Bulldogs game. Collingwood were Richmond of recent years Mark II and, like us, didn't have the skills to pull it off when they eventually decided to go forward.
Once they started going direct - well your saw the results. They came hard and could easily have pulled off the win had they not been a little too far behind.
I would love for Collingwood to play thta same game style we employed against us.
 
Frank Grimes said:
It's not just about getting rewarded for holding the ball for the tackles. Tackling puts pressure on the opposition which means they may turn it over or force them to rush their disposal preventing them from hitting their targets or make a poor decision.
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I'm with you Frank. I'm there to watch the players and the football. Not the umpire. **** the umpire. If we get a free kick, it's a bonus. The focus should be the football and the players. Unless your a Carlton supporter, and then it's all about the umpy and the rules.

Tackling gives its own benefits without the holding the ball decisions. If you smash the ball carriers, like Simpson and Thomas, they stop carrying the football and start kicking the ball to our forwards.
 
SplintWhisky said:
I have banged on about this with mates and I think it would be a great marketing ploy by the club. CALL THE STORM AND ORGANISE A TACKLING SESSION. This would be a fantastic marketing exercise for the club, who has been the worst tackling side for the last 4 years or so.

How good would it be to see our players use rugby like aggression in their tackles. I wanna see that
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I'd like to subscribe to your program. Where do I pay my admission fee?
 
Tackling is important, and was great to see.

But, IMHO, our ability to apply structured pressure was poor Thursday. We let them kick goals by being too in their faces. At times we had that nice mix of direct and indirect pressure. Tackling and hitting bodies to physically cause pressure. And careful presses to force them to go sideways and backwards to open it up. When we went in too hard it opened up our defense if they got the ball.

I want us to continue to focus on tackling and physical pressure. but keep that disciplined structure going as well. Tackling is great if it works. If it doesn't then it opens up space and you can get killed on the fast break. Hard to do, but a lot better than just good defensive structures that allow the opposition to take control of the game and force us to chase tail all day.
 
Not having Tyrone in the forward line means that we don't simply have a guy pretending to chase....running extremely slowly but shaking side to side in an awful attempt to make it appear that he's working hard. In the AFL tackle numbers are always going to be better when it's 6 v 6 instead of 6 v 5. Simple as that.
 

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