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Tall Poppy syndrome

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kickazz said:
Aussies love a winner and a success story, but generally within certain domains, particularly sport. It was endemic in the school system for years where a lot of effort was put into helping struggling kids, but very little for the bright ones, leaving them a bit poorly adjusted sometimes
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!?!!??!?!?!?!!?

You should help the kids who struggle! They're the marginalised ones with the most to lose and most to gain!?

Wow.
 
The fact no one can even nail a definition, and seems to be applying it to all these different scenarios, proves it doesn't exist. Australians love successful pricks (Ponting's a campaigner, Bradman too, Ted Whitten beat women and was a homophobe and a nasty, vindictive prick). But then Australians also hate people who fault on a mass scale, show entitlement, or are genuine twats. If anything, I would say Australia has an issue of being far too fawning over our success stories (usually sporting) than wanting to cut them down when they're too good.

It's a load of horseshit and reeks terribly of people ashamed to be Australian, or people who think they're edgy.
 

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Put it this way, in America when a great sportsman is interviewed and they say "I'm the greatest this sport has ever seen" or something to that extent, in the AFL the best players would just say "awh yeah nah just try and help the team out play my role etc." see Fyfe brownlow speech. If someone in the AFL carried on like a cocky NBA player they would be cut down pretty quickly.

Anthony Mundine is one Australian athlete who acts like a lot of the American ones and he's probably one of the most hated athletes in Australia.

It's not limited to those countries, like Messi is incredibly quiet, reserved, humble while Ronaldo is a showoff, loud and not afraid to say how he thinks of himself, but I don't see that being a big factor in how fans see the two.

Steph Curry the best NBA player atm seems like a pretty humble guy from what I've seen, so they're not all like that.

But that's the crux of it, in my opinion. Sports-wise anyway
 
JoseMourinho said:
I'd advise watching her entire video and not read cherry picked quotes off an article. She is also another one that is constantly cherry picked to make her look bad (like most tall poppies).
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Wait, you're serious? Thought you were joking. Regret my like now...
 
It's difficult to define, but I think a good example is our two most recent prime ministers.

People don't like Tony Abbott because he's a massive dickhead and is views don't resonate with the majority of the population. Intelligent as he may be he's just not likable. I wouldn't call him the victim of tall poppy syndrome, just a massive knob.

More people (but not all) like Malcolm Turnbull. He's more moderate and his views resonate with a higher percentage of the population. He is well spoken, charismatic and presents publicly as a good statesman. He still has his detractors though (including the opposition, obviously) and it always boils down to hating on the richers and wanting to burn a lower case t for 'time to leave'... definite tall poppy syndrome.
 

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milhouse1 said:
I think it mostly comes with seeing a successful Aussie having some arrogance, mixed in with the perception they moved away from Australia once they achieved success and "forgot where they came from". Greg Norman is a prime example, people see him with his millions of dollars living in a mansion in Florida (or wherever), and are turned off by that. More likeable characters (eg Hugh Jackman) get more latitude, but with someone with a bit of arrogance to them does not.
What is sometimes perceived as the tall poppy syndrome can be just a response to Aussie media going overboard with Australians that are succcessful, especially overseas. As recent examples, I was initially hoping Dellavedova and Jarryd Hayne would do well in their sporting endeavors in the US, but after some great performances the saturation of Aussie media coverage had me wishing they would do poorly just to stop the media onslaught. I don't really see this as tall poppy syndrome, but I think it can come across that way.
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Yes , Norman is a perfect example.
 
Silent Alarm said:
The fact no one can even nail a definition, and seems to be applying it to all these different scenarios, proves it doesn't exist. Australians love successful pricks (Ponting's a campaigner, Bradman too, Ted Whitten beat women and was a homophobe and a nasty, vindictive prick). But then Australians also hate people who fault on a mass scale, show entitlement, or are genuine twats. If anything, I would say Australia has an issue of being far too fawning over our success stories (usually sporting) than wanting to cut them down when they're too good.

It's a load of horseshit and reeks terribly of people ashamed to be Australian, or people who think they're edgy.
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Whitten was a wife basher?

I didn't know that. I'm really sad by that news.
 
Catastic82 said:
Well her kids refusal to have anything to do with her and the court cases would show her kids thinks she's a shit human being .
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Could be the other way around aswell.

Kids could have got a bit greedy and found out they could demand everything from the trust as beneficiaries through their beneficiary loans (which they did and Gina denied it hence they used their powers to remove her as trustee (since it was a discretionary trust) and that's why she went to court.)

They could have also realised the amount of money that Gina was making through the trust and hoped to oust her so they could distribute it all to themselves and none to Gina since it is a discretionary trust.

You have to realise that people do things for money and power. The trust has a partial ownership of Gina's Roy Hill project in it.
 
JoseMourinho said:
Could be the other way around aswell.

Kids could have got a bit greedy and found out they could demand everything from the trust as beneficiaries through their beneficiary loans (which they did and Gina denied it hence they used their powers to remove her as trustee (since it was a discretionary trust) and that's why she went to court.)

They could have also realised the amount of money that Gina was making through the trust and hoped to oust her so they could distribute it all to themselves and none to Gina since it is a discretionary trust.

You have to realise that people do things for money and power. The trust has a partial ownership of Gina's Roy Hill project in it.
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She a fat campaigner that has a superiority complex

**** her and anyone that thinks she's a decent human being
 
JoseMourinho wants to be an aristocrat or has read **** all about Gina Rinehart.

Richest person in Australia who inherited her job of being her father's only child is the victim. Bloody hell...

Unless.... Hi Gina! Didn't know you're a Freo supporter!
 

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