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Tarkyn Lockyer = Hack

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Each week this fella is killed by his opponent. He is constantly miles off his opponent, and when he finally does stay with him, is about as soft as a tampon. Farmer killed him today, Davey Killed him, Brown killed him, Milne was very good on him.
He isnt even overly quick for a player of his size, and always gets suckered into letting his oppenent get free.

Surely this guy deserves a long run with Williamstown??

Thoughts?
 
where do we get the nerve?

seriously, tarkyn was slapped, belted, annihilated today by jeffrey.

But seirosuly, he has been pretty godo this year. Probably bene in our best 5-10 best players this year, and after a couple of bad games (melb, freo and rich) we get on his case. This guy has been a loyal servant of the pies and has represented the jumper with pride.

He leaves nothing on the track, and it shows how he could come back froma knee, then have to sit out a further 3 months with stress fractures from doing TOO MUCH rehab.

He's all character and we need a guy like him at our club.
 
Rozza44 said:
Each week this fella is killed by his opponent. He is constantly miles off his opponent, and when he finally does stay with him, is about as soft as a tampon. Farmer killed him today, Davey Killed him, Brown killed him, Milne was very good on him.
He isnt even overly quick for a player of his size, and always gets suckered into letting his oppenent get free.

Surely this guy deserves a long run with Williamstown??

Thoughts?
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Tarks hasn't been the same player he was before that Knee Injury he had several seasons ago.

Occasional glimpes of his old form, but thats about it.
 

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Not sure what people expect from a player like Tarkyn Lockyer. he was beaten today by a player who was redhot. He looked to make quite a few of the opportunities farmer got as difficult as he could. For me, I think he shows guts and character.
 
Up until today, I thought Tarks has had a pretty good year, there is only so much a defender can do against a player who suddenly becomes redhot. I agree with J_26 and theGav56, after one bad game we get on his case looking for a scape goat. Yes sure it wasn't good but you cant expect players to have a good game every single week and you cant really blame 1 player for a loss, maybe look at the whole team for starters before crucifying someone. To win a game you need the whole team working together and the past few weeks i havent seen that happen, players are getting loss, losing confidence and just look like they are trying to survive for themselves. The loss of cohesion and consistency as well as other factors such as 1 ruckmen, tired bodies have contributed to our poor efforts, not the fault of 1 player.
 
Tarks has had an indifferent year. Been good in games and been comprehensively beaten in others. Has been one of our better performers over the year the as a whole, but when it comes to holding the dangerous small forwards, I still cringe every time Tarkyn heads down to pick them up.

Small forwards know how to get front and square, they don't run to the back of the pack, expecting the easy one to spill over the back. They get to the front. Tarkyn for some unknown reason continually loses his touch on his opponent and drifts towards the back, his man stays at the front, crumbs fall to the front, gathers and goals.

This happens far too often. Farmer hasn't kicked a bag in Melbourne since god knows when (prob against us when he played for Melbourne and kicked 9 in a half!) He gave tarkyn a football lesson today, as did Davey, Pettifer and Milne (to some extent last week).

He needs to lift, but he is not the only one!

He should also be banned from kicking long from full back, short passes only.
 
Lockyer:

-rarely wins a one on one
-slow
-small
-though a good kick, because he's slow his disposal is often hurried and pressured, resulting in quite a few **** kicks
-vulnerable overhead

In short, I'm not a fan, though up until recently his year had been a big improvement on the previous couple.
 
johnson_26 said:
where do we get the nerve?

seriously, tarkyn was slapped, belted, annihilated today by jeffrey.

But seirosuly, he has been pretty godo this year. Probably bene in our best 5-10 best players this year, and after a couple of bad games (melb, freo and rich) we get on his case. This guy has been a loyal servant of the pies and has represented the jumper with pride.

He leaves nothing on the track, and it shows how he could come back froma knee, then have to sit out a further 3 months with stress fractures from doing TOO MUCH rehab.

He's all character and we need a guy like him at our club.
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May leave nothing on the track, but leaves plenty on the field. Anyone can do the hard yards at training with their mates, but he doesn't do it on gameday and never has. He's a complete and utter coward.

And that second part about needing guys like him is exactly what's wrong with our club - too bloody keen to reward players for being good blokes (which I don't doubt Tarkyn is) or blokes that apparently have "character". I'd prefer a team full of complete fcukwits that can actually play the game - Martin Pike has 4 premiership medallions - character is overrated when it comes to winning flags.
 
I think Lockyer should be traded at the end of the year. He's been reasonably good this season and he will never be worth more than he is now. IMO he isn't good enough and we should take what we can get but there is no need to abuse the bloke though or call him names. He has tried hard for a long time for our club. He is no star but he has played some good footy at times. Unfortunately he and a few others are front runners and IMO should go. Let's not hang him for not being good enough.
 

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I've never been a Lockyer fan. He is ok, not a great player, not a total hack. He cannot be played on a small forward that spends most of his time deep like Farmer. He is ok against the likes of Ablett, Chapman and even Davey (although he beat him this year) who all meander up field. However H.Shaw needs to play on one of those players so that he can get the ball. It's a real problem and we need a good shutdown back pocket player. Our last one was Swan last year and before that it was Cole who did a good job in 2004.
 
I wouldnt mind seeing him on the half forward line. With less pressure, good enougth kick to take set shots. I thin MM could experiment more with players.
 
jabso said:
I've never been a Lockyer fan. He is ok, not a great player, not a total hack. He cannot be played on a small forward that spends most of his time deep like Farmer. He is ok against the likes of Ablett, Chapman and even Davey (although he beat him this year) who all meander up field. However H.Shaw needs to play on one of those players so that he can get the ball. It's a real problem and we need a good shutdown back pocket player. Our last one was Swan last year and before that it was Cole who did a good job in 2004.
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I must say I have not been a fan of Lockyer for a long time. He is your typical loose backman who when his team is dominating, forever runs into space to get easy touches. When times are tough, he is the player you use to warm the pine. His close defensive skills are poor due to his strength/size, and he's not quick. His assest is his kicking, but when he can't get his hands on it (ie when someone doesn't give it to him) he is no good. In a nutshell defenders need to be harder... he's soft.

Hey, I just thought about a great idea for promoting butter!!! Lockyer and Didak's faces on the lid... :cool:
 
jabso said:
Also the only forwards he does beat are soft forwards that get easy touches, look at his touch up jobs on Ablett.
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Why is it usually Collingwood supporters who display a total lack of knowledge about not only their own team, but the game in general??? "G.Ablett - 43 Contested Ball Gets" (7th in the league), pro-stats.com.au. Get a clue sunshine, then come back and post something worth reading... pfft :confused:
 

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martyk said:
Yet another fanboy taken to the cleaners with factual stats. :thumbsu:
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Show us Simon Prestigiacomo's factual stats and then say he isn't an important player for Collingwood.

Facts aren't everything sunshine :)
 
PieLebo87 said:
Show us Simon Prestigiacomo's factual stats and then say he isn't an important player for Collingwood.

Facts aren't everything sunshine :)
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Stick with the topic, which is that Tarkyn Lockyer is a soft pansy boy HACK. Since you've made it clear that you love stats, hows this one for being related to the topic:
Contested Posessions - 2006
Lockyer + Didak = 25
G.Ablett = 47

I would doubt if Loney, Didak and Lockyer have a pair of balls between the 3 of them. :D
 
martyk said:
Stick with the topic, which is that Tarkyn Lockyer is a soft pansy boy HACK. Since you've made it clear that you love stats, hows this one for being related to the topic:
Contested Posessions - 2006
Lockyer + Didak = 25
G.Ablett = 47

I would doubt if Loney, Didak and Lockyer have a pair of balls between the 3 of them. :D
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As stats are so important to you and since Didak and Ablett are both forwards, lets see the goal assists stats :)
 
jabso said:
Here's some stats for ya, buddy, 102 points.
G.Ablett on that day, playing on Lockyer. 10 possies.
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True, and Lockyer had 18 touches of which all were uncontested, including marks. Collingwood controlled the play most of the game (Geelong were terrible!) and Lockyer ran around like the girl he is into space to get easy touches, which is what this thread is about.

Thankyou for giving me another chance to back up the topic - Lockyer is a HACK!!
 

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