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Make no mistake Chris Tarrent is on the market unlike Bradshaw who the Lions are desperate to keep. Just like troubled souls such as Hall, Gehrig and Fevola, Taz will mature and has a massive upside

We unfortunately don't need a FF. We are stuck with Ottens/King and Hawkins will be started deep just like Nathan was. Taz is a HFF who the figures show kicks at least 40. 20 or so more if he get's it together. He also provides a link and a HF option which is something we clearly don't have. Perfect

We already have Hawkins so we can afford to trade our early 2nd round pick for a ready made

We also need to turn some players over

I'll be disappointed if the club doesn't put in a bid. It seems like the perfect time for us. We won't have to be over the odds.

Pick 25 + Player like Kelly, Wojc, Mackie and Tenace seems about the mark.

Play Hawkins and Ablett next year and develop them. Sack off McCarthy,Henry, Charlie & Kent. Pick up another tall at pick 7 like Thorp or Riewoldt

Tarrant, N. Ablett, P. Chapman
Hawkins*, Ottens (with a preseason), G. Ablett

*swapping with Johnson on the bench.

Get the games into them to take us to the flag. Get something tangible from this review. Get some excitement back into this club!!
 
BigCat1 said:
Make no mistake Chris Tarrent is on the market unlike Bradshaw who the Lions are desperate to keep. Just like troubled souls such as Hall, Gehrig and Fevola, Taz will mature and has a massive upside

We unfortunately don't need a FF. We are stuck with Ottens/King and Hawkins will be started deep just like Nathan was. Taz is a HFF who the figures show kicks at least 40. 20 or so more if he get's it together. He also provides a link and a HF option which is something we clearly don't have. Perfect

We already have Hawkins so we can afford to trade our early 2nd round pick for a ready made

We also need to turn some players over

I'll be disappointed if the club doesn't put in a bid. It seems like the perfect time for us. We won't have to be over the odds.

Pick 25 + Player like Kelly, Wojc, Mackie and Tenace seems about the mark.

Play Hawkins and Ablett next year and develop them. Sack off McCarthy,Henry, Charlie & Kent. Pick up another tall at pick 7 like Thorp or Riewoldt

Tarrant, N. Ablett, P. Chapman
Hawkins*, Ottens (with a preseason), G. Ablett

*swapping with Johnson on the bench.

Get the games into them to take us to the flag. Get something tangible from this review. Get some excitement back into this club!!

If we recruited Tarrant I'd give up AFL....the type of player Geelong Does not need...
 
whats with all the trade talk about tarrant, his not going anywhere (i hope), most people think tarrant is rubbish and "knows" their club don't need him, then whats with all the rumours

ps. collingwood would be asking for a hell of a lot more
 
The way people talk about Tarrant is similar to the way that Geelong people talked about Kingsley, kind of...

I dunno if Tazza would fit at Geelong. He's certainly got a heap of talent, but doesn't quite seem to be able to cope when the pressure's on him. Maybe the change would do him good, but still... I just have the feeling that he wouldn't be right for Geelong.
 

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The asking price is going to go through the roof, and I'm still unsure if I want another fragile forward who doesn't perform in big games when the pressure is on.

He has a heap of ability though...
 
Budda 230 said:
Tarrant is not needed at Geelong. Collingwood will want too much, its not worth it. Its too risky. Too inconsistent.

I agree totally, any more forwards coming through will be too much. What geelong desperately needs is quick in and under midfielders who have good disposal
 
JUBJUB said:
Kingsley >>>>>>>>>>> Tarrant

End of thread ;)

Personally I think Tarrant was actually the better footballer, however I think it would be crazy for Geelong to chase him.

Like Kingsley he is far to inconsistent and only plays well every now and then. Add this to his tendany to go missing under pressure and his off field indiscretions then consider how much Collingwood are going to ask for their starting full forward and it's just not worth it.
 
For the type of player he is, the asking price will be ridiculous. We're probably better off playing Charlie or Henry in that role (yes, I'm serious), and keep whatever assets we stand to lose.
 
GeeCat said:
For the type of player he is, the asking price will be ridiculous. We're probably better off playing Charlie or Henry in that role (yes, I'm serious), and keep whatever assets we stand to lose.

I know what you mean. Tarrants cost is more damaging than buying a bucket of chips at Telstra Dome!

They would probably demand our first round pick and maybe something else as a minimum. If Geelong did that, I would....... I don't really know what I'd do, but it would be filled with anger!
 
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chapmanmagic35 said:
Guess who had a better goal per match ratio as well mid way through 2006 (and i assume still now)?

Hint: It wasn't Tazza

Correct, however Kent plays from the goalsquare, while Tarrant plays as the lead up forward, so you would expect KK to average more.

BigCat was right about one thing - we haven't had a decent lead up forward since Derek Hall. A guy that can lead up to the HFF-wing as a link man, and we've tried numerous guys in this position, so it has some merit.

Besides - the guy can take a serious hanger!

Having said all that, I agree it is risky - he really needs to clean up off the field and get his attitude right. And we don't want to trade the earth for him.

How's that for sitting on the fence! :)
 
Guys,

Can I just ask who on this forum saw anything from Chris Tarrant this year to suggest we want him at Geelong? How many goals did this 'specialist forward' kick? Someone remind me, please ...

We want pace thru the middle people. Not another dud forward who, if I had my life riding on a goal having to be kicked from 40 out in front, I'd prefer my mum instead of him.

Why are people simply attracted to big names?

And surely we've learnt something from the Mitchell White fiasco.
 
Gary Junior said:
Can I just ask who on this forum saw anything from Chris Tarrant this year to suggest we want him at Geelong?

Kangaroos and WC games weren't too bad.

He kicked 36 goals in a bad year - more than any Geelong player.

Not too sure about the specialist forward tag either. As I mentioned earlier he plays alot up the ground, giving the ball to Tarrant, Didak etc. - he averaged 3.4 'inside 50's' per game.

Not saying it's right or wrong, just putting some stats out there.

Anyone that says the guy can't play is kidding themselves.
 
spanna050 said:
Kangaroos and WC games weren't too bad.

He kicked 36 goals in a bad year - more than any Geelong player.

Not too sure about the specialist forward tag either. As I mentioned earlier he plays alot up the ground, giving the ball to Tarrant, Didak etc. - he averaged 3.4 'inside 50's' per game.

Not saying it's right or wrong, just putting some stats out there.

Anyone that says the guy can't play is kidding themselves.

He is a good player. But We don't need him as much as others teams do. I would much rather a player like Nicoski/Butler than Tarrant. Our forward line suffers from bad delivery. If that is fixed our forward line will perform.
 
DanA said:
He is a good player. But We don't need him as much as others teams do. I would much rather a player like Nicoski/Butler than Tarrant. Our forward line suffers from bad delivery. If that is fixed our forward line will perform.

Agree as long as our forwards can kick straight!
 

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spanna050 said:
Kangaroos and WC games weren't too bad.

He kicked 36 goals in a bad year - more than any Geelong player.

Not too sure about the specialist forward tag either. As I mentioned earlier he plays alot up the ground, giving the ball to Tarrant, Didak etc. - he averaged 3.4 'inside 50's' per game.

Not saying it's right or wrong, just putting some stats out there.

Anyone that says the guy can't play is kidding themselves.

I know ya just putting the stats out there but I think this proves my point superbly.

For a start you've mentioned two games ... you've also mentioned he's averaging less than 2 goals a game ... in a 'bad'(?) year (Collingwood finished 5th. I'd hate him to have a bad year w us finishing 10th)

I know he works up the ground, but getting it inside 50 aint our problem.

Sorry Taz. Now please, people of Geelong, forget the guy and let's concentrate on trying to grab either (a) some proven goalkickers or (b) and most importantly, some pace.
 
O.K. Im going to go against most peoples opinion and say we should get him.
Our track record of trading for players hasn't been great in the past but his 25, 6'4", could outrun 99% of our midfielders and can mark. Combine Henry and Charlie and you get Tarrant. Henry can mark but can't kick, Charlie can kick but cant mark.
Tarrant is a country boy (bendigo) Maybe the big smoke is the problem.
Maybe trade Charlie + Kelly + Byrnes. How long before these 3 live up to potential. You can only hang on to dead wood for so long b4 it breaks in your hand and becomes useless.
Thought Kelly is the least I want to cull out of the 3 as he does have abit of "class", to trade you must give up something.
Our trade fortunes are bound to turn around soon. Have alook at a few duds in the last 10 years.
Ill rattle off a few so called "big name" recruits we have recieved. Mitchell White, Jason Mooney, Brett Spinks to name 3.
Bamford, T. Lynch, Arnott to name some more. And who can forget the Lord for Tim Hargraves deal.

I guess everyone can read my comments and say im contradicting myself alittle bit but everyone thought Ottens was the best thing since sliced bread when he left Richmond. Though I think he has been good mostly for us, what form did he show at Richmond which gave us hope.

Lastly, who says we would use him at FF or CHF. What about a Scarlett, Egan and Tazz backline.

just a thought
 
Gary Junior said:
Sorry Taz. Now please, people of Geelong, forget the guy and let's concentrate on trying to grab either (a) some proven goalkickers or (b) and most importantly, some pace.


I know pace is important but lets remember, the Crows and Swans aren't a team of road runners. Both are well drilled, skillful and each and everyone one of them seem to enjoy doing the 1 percenters.

Sydney are the "classic team". There 5th best is not much better than there 22nd best. There so even and enjoy playing together.

Maybe having half your side living in Melb and travelling back and forwards to training isnt great on team morale. who knows.
 
Gary Junior said:
I know ya just putting the stats out there but I think this proves my point superbly.

For a start you've mentioned two games ... you've also mentioned he's averaging less than 2 goals a game ... in a 'bad'(?) year (Collingwood finished 5th. I'd hate him to have a bad year w us finishing 10th)

I know he works up the ground, but getting it inside 50 aint our problem.

Sorry Taz. Now please, people of Geelong, forget the guy and let's concentrate on trying to grab either (a) some proven goalkickers or (b) and most importantly, some pace.

Inconsistant high priced forward with a trouble making past doesn't really fill my wish list either. Yes he has talent and is very quick to burst out and take a mark on the wing but thats not what we need. If we really want to be a force we need to get Bradshaw. Kicked around 60 goals in a struggling Brisbane side and is a bloke who demands the ball and gives a contest , no matter how the ball is delivered.

Half Forward : N Ablett C Mooney G Ablett

Forward : B Ottens D Bradshaw P Chapman

Rotate Gaz & Chappy through the middle and throw Stokes & Dog as the small forwards. Tommy Hawkins could also ease his way in when Otto rests or goes into the ruck.

If Nathan Ablett proves that he is capable of holding down CHF then you could have the luxury of playing Mooney off half back or pinch hit him onball as well as half forward. Something we missed this year.

If we were to get Bradshaw's services it would mean that Charlie, Macca and possibly Hank would basically be vying for the one spot and I would think that all 3 names would be put up come trade week. If Vossy & big Mal decide to play on Bradshaw will leave (due to salary cap pressure) with Geelong being high on his list being a Warnambool boy. We need a goal kicker and Charlie, Macca and Hank will never develop into what we need so the time has come to bite the bullet and bring Bradshaw back home, regardless of the cost.
 
Rosso said:
If we were to get Bradshaw's services it would mean that Charlie, Macca and possibly Hank would basically be vying for the one spot and I would think that all 3 names would be put up come trade week. If Vossy & big Mal decide to play on Bradshaw will leave (due to salary cap pressure) with Geelong being high on his list being a Warnambool boy. We need a goal kicker and Charlie, Macca and Hank will never develop into what we need so the time has come to bite the bullet and bring Bradshaw back home, regardless of the cost.


I agree with you and hope Nath continues to develop. Only query on Bradshaw is age. Maybe we should of got him 3 years ago when we had the chance. He just wanted more money than Geelong thought he was worth.
Could someone like Aaron Edwards from Frankston (100 goals this year for those who don't know) hold down FF in an AFL side. Could he be worth a punt. Personally, I doubt it. Could end up like Scott Hodges. Kicks bags at the second level but just the right size for the top notch level.
 

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