Team vs Geelong

[George Washington]

Essendon
B: Henry SLattery, Tayte Pears, Bachar Houli
HB: Brent Stanton, Adam McPhee, Cale Hooker
C: Ricky Dyson, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis
HF: Angus Monfries, Jay Neagle, Andrew Lovett
F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Jason Winderlich
I/C (from): David Myers, Jay Nash, Leroy Jetta, Mark McVeigh, Hayden Skipworth, Tom Bellchambers, Scott Lucas

In: Skipworth, Myers, Nash, McVeigh, Lucas
Out: Courtenay Dempsey (ankle), Nathan Lovett-Murray (susp)


I can't see Skipworth, Nash or Lucas playing tbh, my guess is Myers and McVeigh.


Ninja edit...

 

[dave_27]

Dempsey is a really bad loss.

I guess no injuries for more than a week or 2 was too much too ask when it comes to Essendon!

 

[EFL Boy]

Just noticed then, where is our ruck line?

 

[Skeeta Olly]

Dempsey > Myers
NLM > McVeigh/Skipworth

That's what I'm guessing.

 

[EFL Boy]

That line would be Ryder, Watson, Winderlich

 

[warney7]

Putting Nash in the side to play Geelong will be disasterous.

If he plays and turns the ball over as much as he has in the past, Hooker and Pears are going to have a really tough afternoon.

I think Skipworth will play, he's been out of the side for 5 weeks now, and I think Myers is more likely than McVeigh, given the fact that Mark has only had 1 game in the VFL.

 

[lamaros]

Skipworth, McVeigh and Myers all chances I expect.

Lucas isn't back, doubt Nash is ahead of anyone. Question if Jetta is dropped or not, that's all.

 

[dave_27]

Mcveigh IS playing, Knights confirmed it in his preview.

 

[Lotch]

Good to see Lucas atleast on the extended bench. Hopefully he gets some form and battles for his spot.

 

[just jetta]

Good to see Skippy back up and about..... McVeigh should add some toughness here and there.
We've been doing well without Lucas, but why not bring him back? It'll be good to have another tall marking forward too exploit Geelong's defence line.

Hopefully we get big games from Lovett and Monfries!
A nice little run through the middle should do us good.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

No brainer - McVeigh and Skipworth in.

 

[Charliebrow 16]

I'd really like to see Lucas back in the squad but we might be a little top heavy with Lloyd, Neagle and Lucas all playing in the forward line at various stages.

McVeigh and Skipworth would be nice inclusions.

 

[bomberstomake8]

No brainer - McVeigh and Skipworth in.

thats probably the likely scenario however i think myers is also a decent shot because he would be the one most likely to fill dempsey's position. would he be a suitable match up for SJ? myers can match him i feel for height and pace and generally myers has kept his opponents quiet all year although none of them would have been of the quality of SJ.

as for the lucas inclusion i think bringing in lucas would be playing into geelongs hands they have quite a few tall defenders in scarlett milburn mackie taylor, i dont think having another tall forward in the team would really trouble them. players like taylor and lately milburn seem to struggle playing on small forwards so i think a smaller set up could work well.

i think dempsey is a massive loss, he has been our best defender, so creative and very clean hands..

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

thats probably the likely scenario however i think myers is also a decent shot because he would be the one most likely to fill dempsey's position. would he be a suitable match up for SJ? myers can match him i feel for height and pace and generally myers has kept his opponents quiet all year although none of them would have been of the quality of SJ.

Myers ain't fit to carry Dempsey's boots at the moment. Defensively he's been taken to the cleaners so I'm not sure what your on about.

If anyone we'd have to go with Nash as he can get the ball and run and carry but I'll think we'll see Dyson/Stanton playing a lot more of that role.

 

[Kong]

Myers ain't fit to carry Dempsey's boots at the moment. Defensively he's been taken to the cleaners so I'm not sure what your on about.

No he hasn't. He hasn't played well, but with the exception of the Carlton game he hasn't been 'taken to the cleaners' defensively by any stretch.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Myers ain't fit to carry Dempsey's boots at the moment. Defensively he's been taken to the cleaners so I'm not sure what your on about.

If anyone we'd have to go with Nash as he can get the ball and run and carry but I'll think we'll see Dyson/Stanton playing a lot more of that role.

not sure what im on about? im not sure what you are on about?

any examples where myers direct opponent has had a big influence on the game? myers has always held his opponent and at least broken even, i havent had any problemswith his defensive ability, he has had problems offensively which is a reason why dempsey is a lot better but against SJ i wouldnt want him to be trying to play off him and provide a target up the ground, give him a strictly lock down role.

with the exception of maybe one match i dont think myers has ever been taken to the cleaners by his direct opponent

 

[Daytripper]

No he hasn't. He hasn't played well, but with the exception of the Carlton game he hasn't been 'taken to the cleaners' defensively by any stretch.

If Myers has that 'deer in the headlights' look about him now what's he going to be like under the pressure of Geelong.

I don't know which match up from Geelong is good for him to be honest which just leaves his offensive game left. That is basically zero so at least Nash has him covered there.

That said, would have thought McVeigh and Skipwoorth are logical inclusions here.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

No he hasn't. He hasn't played well, but with the exception of the Carlton game he hasn't been 'taken to the cleaners' defensively by any stretch.

Every game he's been poor defensively. Why are people trying to spread a myth about him being good defensively? It's mind boggling.

Go and have a look at all the games and see his opponents waltz around, lead him to the ball, run away from him, etc, etc.

The Geary mark and goal pretty much sums him up. I can't go through every game and every incident but there's been very few contests where he has won out against his opponent... very few. And in most cases he's been playing against no names so you don't expect those guys to come out and have 25+ and 5 goals.

 

[james_omahoney]

Every game he's been poor defensively. Why are people trying to spread a myth about him being good defensively? It's mind boggling.

Go and have a look at all the games and see his opponents waltz around, lead him to the ball, run away from him, etc, etc.

The Geary mark and goal pretty much sums him up. I can't go through every game and every incident but there's been very few contests where he has won out against his opponent... very few. And in most cases he's been playing against no names so you don't expect those guys to come out and have 25+ and 5 goals.

Not saying you are right or wrong, but at least list his opponents and goals conceded as a starting point.

 

[AndyLesPaul]

Essendon
B: Henry SLattery, Tayte Pears, Bachar Houli
HB: Brent Stanton, Adam McPhee, Cale Hooker
C: Ricky Dyson, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis
HF: Angus Monfries, Jay Neagle, Andrew Lovett
F: Alwyn Davey, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Jason Winderlich
I/C (from): David Myers, Jay Nash, Leroy Jetta, Mark McVeigh, Hayden Skipworth, Tom Bellchambers, Scott Lucas

In: Skipworth, Myers, Nash, McVeigh, Lucas
Out: Courtenay Dempsey (ankle), Nathan Lovett-Murray (susp)


I can't see Skipworth, Nash or Lucas playing tbh, my guess is Myers and McVeigh.


Ninja edit...

Bendigo Bombers


B Quinn Daniher Flaherty

HB Nash T. Slattery Atkinson

C Myers Prismall Reimers

HF Welsh S. Crameri J. Bowe

F Redpath Lucas Bock

R Laycock Scanlon German

Int Bristow Holmes Weekley
C. Slattery Davies Delahunty
R. Taylor B. Taylor Stroobants
Hackett Fiske Klemke

Looks like Skippy and Spike are in

 

[Boucks09]

I'm not a fan of losing two fit running type players who have been playing all year and had full pre seasons and replacing them with two solid 'in and under types' who are not 100% match fit.

It's a massive risk IMHO.

The only think I can think is that Skippy and McVeigh are going to play predominantly forward with one of Stanton or Dyson to move to the back flank. That could work in playing small down forward and forcing the Geelong defence to play one on one.

 

[Darealrath]

I'm not a fan of losing two fit running type players who have been playing all year and had full pre seasons and replacing them with two solid 'in and under types' who are not 100% match fit.

It's a massive risk IMHO.

Agreed. We'd have no changes if Dempsey and NLM weren't forced out. I'd be tempted to go with Nash ahead of Skipworth, but it probably won't make much difference.

 

[dave_27]

Not a fan of skipwoth in for Dempsey at all.

Would have liked to have seen Atkinson get a go.

 

[Daytripper]

Agreed. We'd have no changes if Dempsey and NLM weren't forced out. I'd be tempted to go with Nash ahead of Skipworth, but it probably won't make much difference.

McVeigh had to come in. Can't have a player of his calibre playing twos.

People forget how good a player he is. Is an automatic upgrade on NLM (and he's had a good season) whilst Skippy is a slight downgrade on Dempsey.

Overall, positives outweigh negatives IMO.

We're going to have the same issues for the next 3 weeks with squeezing Fletcher, Welsh, Reimers and Prismall into the side.

 

[Kong]

If Myers has that 'deer in the headlights' look about him now what's he going to be like under the pressure of Geelong.

I don't know which match up from Geelong is good for him to be honest which just leaves his offensive game left. That is basically zero so at least Nash has him covered there.

That said, would have thought McVeigh and Skipwoorth are logical inclusions here.

I agree that he hasn't offered a whole lot offensively. But my comment was in response to Kelvin's "taken to the cleaners defensively" rubbish.

Every game he's been poor defensively. Why are people trying to spread a myth about him being good defensively? It's mind boggling.

He hasn't been Milburn, Jason Blake, or even Henry Slattery; but he has been OK defensively. I CBF digging it up, but I'm sure Ant posted a list of his direct opponents throughout games, which showed your 'taken to the cleaners' comment to be incorrect. That and the fact that I watch games before commenting on them, have helped me to suggest that Myers has stifled his direct opponents' influence on the game.

I can't go through every game and every incident but there's been very few contests where he has won out against his opponent... very few. And in most cases he's been playing against no names so you don't expect those guys to come out and have 25+ and 5 goals.

So? You play whoever's put in front of you; Myers has done that, and kept his opponents quiet, which is his job. I'm not saying he should be picked this week, and I'm not even saying he'll be a great player, but for you to say he's been irrelevant defensively, is tripe.