Terrorist attack in Paris

[Ford Fairlane]

Three masked gunmen wielding assault rifles have stormed the offices of a French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, shot 12 people dead and injured 11 more, four of them critically.

Gunmen attack French satirical magazine headquarters

 

[Garibaldi Red]

Absolutely terrible what has happened.

Here are some of the things of Twitter that I have liked (excuse the language in the first one)

 

[Port81]

The religion of peace

 

[I Dont Care]

The religion of peace

Or the religion of people in pieces. This just going to draw so much hatred from all sides. Hatred is the hardest of emotions to control and we humans have it in spades

 

[ozph1870]

 

[Port81]

The 'I behead you' fairy tale.

 

[ozph1870]

the you will burn in hell for eternity if you dont believe / follow my religion fairy tale

 

[raman]

Lost two Facebook friends over this today. A good day's work.

 

[I Dont Care]

Lost two Facebook friends over this today. A good day's work.

There'll be more

 

[raman]

There'll be more

Nah, doubt it.

Christopher Hitchens often referred to certain sections of the Left having a latent, masochistic love and desire for totalitarianism and for years I couldn't quite work out what he meant.

But to see otherwise sane people pretzel their own values absurdly to defend the indefensible in the name of cultural/religious sensitivity, as I've seen in the past couple of months and especially today... that's exactly it.

 

[I Dont Care]

Nah, doubt it.

Christopher Hitchens often referred to certain sections of the Left having a latent, masochistic love and desire for totalitarianism and for years I couldn't quite work out what he meant.

But to see otherwise sane people pretzel their own values absurdly to defend the indefensible in the name of cultural/religious sensitivity, as I've seen in the past couple of months and especially today... that's exactly it.

There'll be more. They never end

 

[1954]

If the information I heard on tv last night was correct, one of the perpetrators of the atrocity in Paris was sent to prison in 2005 for plotting a terrorist attack, and both have recently returned from Syria ( obviously they weren't there to see the sights ), so putting 2 and 2 together once again it unfortunately appears a western country has been asleep at the wheel when dealing with a potential threat.

It's not that long ago ( the 60's and 70's ) the french were the most brutal at dealing with any `perceived ' threat to law and order.
Police in full riot gear would just wade into what we would describe as a peaceful street march and literally smash the f*** out of everybody in the general vicinity.

Where will it end? who knows, but there is no doubt turning the other cheek simply doesn't work.

 

[philreich]

These people are SCUM!!!!!!

 

[Port81]

It will never end... its too late, these Islamic extremists have infiltrated the west and our piss weak laws let them get away with murder in fear of being labelled a 'racist'....6 degrees of separation and Islamic terrorism, and its counting down....

 

[dinger]

If the information I heard on tv last night was correct, one of the perpetrators of the atrocity in Paris was sent to prison in 2005 for plotting a terrorist attack, and both have recently returned from Syria ( obviously they weren't there to see the sights ), so putting 2 and 2 together once again it unfortunately appears a western country has been asleep at the wheel when dealing with a potential threat.

It's not that long ago ( the 60's and 70's ) the french were the most brutal at dealing with any `perceived ' threat to law and order.
Police in full riot gear would just wade into what we would describe as a peaceful street march and literally smash the f*** out of everybody in the general vicinity.

Where will it end? who knows, but there is no doubt turning the other cheek simply doesn't work.

With the sheer amount of information that these organizations receive and attempting to determine what parts are true and false, as well as defining what information they are allowed to monitor (ie: What countries people visit) it doesn't surprise me. Not trying to justify it, we've had some pretty massive blunders in the past - the hostage situation a few weeks back is the perfect example.

Deadset though, if someone has been thrown in prison for a terrorist attack in the past there should almost definitely be a watchlist and/or effort in either preventing them leaving for Syria (or any place with a notoriously high perceived terrorist threat), or coming back into France without excessive screening of the individual. Ensuring personal liberties and freedoms remain intact is important, but I think there's a certain point the police etc can act when there's a high risk to the general population.

 

[dinger]

It will never end... its too late, these Islamic extremists have infiltrated the west and our piss weak laws let them get away with murder in fear of being labelled a 'racist'....6 degrees of separation and Islamic terrorism, and its counting down....

And I don't even know where to begin with this, I don't think anyone is scared of being labelled a racist or any of that other rubbish, its just that there's a ridiculous amount of perfectly normal Muslims who hate these groups as much, if not more than anyone else (they kill more Muslims than anything, and the way they do it is ****ing awful) who don't deserve to be chucked into these broad groups as a terrorist simply because they believe in X God. I mean, when Catholic priests were being outed as pedophiles, I didn't assume that all Catholic priests = pedophiles, so why would I do the same here?

 

[Grave Danger]

 

[Port81]

And I don't even know where to begin with this, I don't think anyone is scared of being labelled a racist or any of that other rubbish, its just that there's a ridiculous amount of perfectly normal Muslims who hate these groups as much, if not more than anyone else (they kill more Muslims than anything, and the way they do it is ******* awful) who don't deserve to be chucked into these broad groups as a terrorist simply because they believe in X God. I mean, when Catholic priests were being outed as pedophiles, I didn't assume that all Catholic priests = pedophiles, so why would I do the same here?

You can begin with learning the difference between and Muslim and an 'Islamic extremist', quote the word 'Muslim' in that reply...

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Both sieges in Paris (at the printing firm in Dammartin-en-Goële and supermarket in Paris) have ended with police storming the buildings and killing the alleged gunmen.

All remaining hostages were freed unharmed but it is reported four more people were killed when the Paris supermarket was taken under siege.



Charlie Hebdo attacks

 

[CharlieKelly]

here's the thing about Charlie Hebdo: nothing is sacred

not only did they republish the infamous Danish cartoons depicting Mohammed, they added more of their own, plus they'd regularly skewer the shit out of the Catholic Church, Jews, Le Pen and the far-right, the far left, everyone

Charlie is something I would've read, were I more fluent in French

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/11/1357057/-The-Charlie-Hebdo-cartoons-no-one-is-showing-you

 

[CharlieKelly]

aaaaaand I feel this is unfortunately relevant

NSFW