Terry Wallace - is it inevitable?

[Jabso]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

 

[boodsyboy]

ok I will take the bait ask us again after Rnd 22

 

[sante]

I hope he is.

 

[Tigerdrive]

I'd like to think we've learnt from the past and we won't act to rashly if we get a few bad results next season. Hoping for stability.

 

[T I G E R M A N]

I think that Terry will do great things with the young and maturing squad which he know has, and his more senior players are injury free.

I have great faith in him.

Just be patient and allow it all to unfold.

Judge over a long period and not the moment!!!!

 

[Jisha]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

A troll mod? You are an idiot.

I for one have faith in Wallace, I have seen him do a great number of things to change how this club was heading, and that was merging.

Ok he got us a wooden spoon, but if it is going to be profitable in the long run, then I do not mind. I am sick of being a 9th place team full of hacks from other clubs and no hoper draft picks.

From what I have seen in the improvement of our list in the last 4 years I am delighted. I know Miller had some things to do with it, but as far as I am concerned, Wallace had some balls putting his own job on the line for the sake of breeding our own players from scratch.

We have a tight bunch of players with good head's on their shoulder's, that with a bit of bulking up, WILL be a force, and we WILL be in finals very soon.

I know some tigers supporters do not agree with me, but if I was to have one coach with us in this development period, it would be Wallace. I am excited by our list in the years to come, the most excited I have been in the last 15 years.

I think the main question is, will Dale Thomas become AFL quality in the next 3 years?

 

[tigers_of_old_08]

A troll mod? You are an idiot.

I for one have faith in Wallace, I have seen him do a great number of things to change how this club was heading, and that was merging.

Ok he got us a wooden spoon, but if it is going to be profitable in the long run, then I do not mind. I am sick of being a 9th place team full of hacks from other clubs and no hoper draft picks.

From what I have seen in the improvement of our list in the last 4 years I am delighted. I know Miller had some things to do with it, but as far as I am concerned, Wallace had some balls putting his own job on the line for the sake of breeding our own players from scratch.

We have a tight bunch of players with good head's on their shoulder's, that with a bit of bulking up, WILL be a force, and we WILL be in finals very soon.

I know some tigers supporters do not agree with me, but if I was to have one coach with us in this development period, it would be Wallace. I am excited by our list in the years to come, the most excited I have been in the last 15 years.

I think the main question is, will Dale Thomas become AFL quality in the next 3 years?

Great post Jisha.

Wallace and Miller are working at Richmond for the long-haul and as you said they are breeding players from scratch and they're prepared to cop criticism for the pain along the way.

It has been said that 90% of football is played above the shoulders, which includes every department at the club, coaches and football directors included.

As for Dale Thomas or "Daisy" as he's called by the Collingwood faithful, well rumor has it he will be announcing during the season that he is really a girl! Not having a shot or anything..

 

[GiveGasTheFlick]

He will be our next p'ship coach

 

[froars]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

In the words of Maggie Thatcher which Richmond supporters don't like him. We luv him lol - only the vocal minority like Terry Tan who don't like him and they don't rate, so Terry stays

You're a troll - can we have him banned Peejay? lol

 

[tugga]

Wallace is actually the first coach in ages who actually has a plan for the club. I agree that he needs to get some sort of results this year though.
If he does, then I believe what he has set the club up for, will see him coach for at least the next 5-6 years.
The problem is that wallace is so hated outside of the RFC that people want to see him fail but they themselves fail to see that he took over a basketcase and is slowly compiling a list of good young talent. That talent has yet to surface to non-RFC supporters, but we can see it, for the first time in a long time.

 

[acr2751]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

would you give me a card for posting this about your coach on your board?

wallace is taking the club in the right direction for the first time in many years we are developing from scratch and doing it in a way that our club is still financialy viable which was also very important when he started.

he will be with us for at least 2 more seasons and will be judged on the direction the club is heading.

07 spoon year was better for our club than the 10 years before that becouse if the young guys develop we will be set up for a long time.

short term pain long term gain.

what is inevitable is that all coachs will one day be sacked, even yours.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

The only question i have about Wallace is his ability to develop the kids.I dont expect us to make the 8 this year,However what im expecting is in the best Column is more of:Lids,Tambling,Patto,Jackson,Thirsty etc and less of Richo,Bowden etc.
08 has to be the year where our kids start stepping up.If not then questions have to be asked why havn,t they.

 

[Ruanaidh]

I'll take on face value that you aren't trolling and say this: There is a perception in the football 'community' that Terry isn't appreciated by RFC supporters. This is BS. I know a couple of dozen and they all agree that he is the man to take us up to and through our next period of success. However long it takes.

 

[SolidTiger]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

It comes down to how the list develops over the next few years. To put it simply, if the young players fail to take adequate steps to show they can play at the highest level then he should go but if they develop well and begin to take the next step then his contract should be extended.

 

[YellowandBlackBlood]

Take a look at the list and compare it to 2002. There are only five players left from that period: Richo, Bowden, Newman, Cogs and Pettifer.
I doubt many other teams have turned over their lists as much as Richmond. With that amount of turnover, it takes many years to build up a side that is both physically and mentally developed to AFL standard. People who really understood what sort of job TW had in front of him when he took on the coaching position, knew that success wasn't going to happen overnight. I for one, thought it would take him his full term of five years to pull us out of the mess we had got ourselves into.
Personally, I think that regardless of the results of this year, he should see out his contract. Injuries can be cruel to a team lacking in depth of experienced personnel. The only thing that would convince me to sack him is if the players played with no spirit. Motivation is obviously one of the head coaches most important jobs. However, this should be an indirect result of convincing players of their own ability and encouraging them to have pride in their own performance. The motivation should then come from within the player themselves. The sense of team spirit is also part of this. The young group must learn to play for each other and to sacrifice themselves for their team mate and thus for the team. That is all I want TW to do. He has done the hard yards with the team building and recruiting. The physical development has been left to the Fitness gurus at the club. The mental development is what needs to be worked on from here. To his credit TW has recognized this and has brought on board Jeff Bond to help out there.
All Tiger supporters should get behind the team and it's coaching staff and show positive encouragement. After his five years we can asses the impact that TW has had on the club.

 

[captain blood 17]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

Nah, he is on the right track. Majority do believe in him. 30k members in a spoon year would indicate we support what is happening at the club. So it's a non membership, bandwagon jumping minority your talking to. these supporters you talk to will be the first to roll out the carpet and openly declare love for Terry if we start winning a few.

 

[mhill]

I think it is a fair question to ask.
My view is this:-

1. We have stable leadership off field, board, admin and now coaching. This was a major issue until the late 90s. We were one of the last clubs to catch up from the turbulent times of the 70s and 80s. Look at WCE, Swans and now the Cats - their success starts off field. People who criticize our following of the Geelong model can't see the forest for the trees. It starts off field.
2. We have finally cast aside the quick fix recruiting methods that have plaqued the club - I think this peaked about 2002-2004, largely driven by an insecure coach and a desperate match committee.
3. Right now, we are taking our medicine to avoid points 1 and 2 again by gradually building a list from scratch - in many ways like a new club. Carlton are the same.
4. Improvement should be the theme for 2008 - and that should not just be measured in wins and losses. Winning 11 games in 2006 and getting beaten by over 100 points was not a trend into playing finals football. Being consistently competitive in games and having 3rd, 4th and 5th year players in our best week in week out will be a better gauge of both the coaching staff AND whether players can turn potential into performance than just winning games of football.
5. A bit of Luck. Injuries, a decent draw, winning close games will all play a part.

Based on the above logic, Wallace gets his 5th year because we need a stable club off the field. Any change should have method, not driven by d1ckhead opposition supporters or media (who quite often write like d1ckhead opposition supporters.

If, and only if, there is not a cycle of improvement by the end of next year, I am certain that Wallace and the club will engineer a much more professional transition that may or may not involve him at the club.

Otherwise, its onward and upward and at this time of year - I say lets get it on!!!

 

[red bean]

Hello All,

First time contributor...have to weigh in and add my voice to the case for Terry...should be there for several years to come...albeit, there should be some noticeable improvement this year.

 

[NQTIGER]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

Will micky still be there? , I hear the prseident has given him his full support

 

[Ruanaidh]

Hello All,

First time contributor...have to weigh in and add my voice to the case for Terry...should be there for several years to come...albeit, there should be some noticeable improvement this year.

Welcome 'RedBean' and oh what an auspicious start

 

[camsmith]

Most supporters just want us to keep a coach for 5 or so years, we're sick of continually sacking them after a couple.

Most see the plan Terry has, we see the kids he has brought to the club and look forward to the next few years with Terry coaching hopefully us to the finals and beyond.

 

[oxx]

The feeling I get from Richmond supporters is that Wallace is gone within the next year or 2 years tops. Are there any Richmond supporters that have faith that Wallace will be you coach for the next 3+ years? Not having a shot or anything, just not sure if I have the right perception and that I'm only hearing a vocal minority.

**** off Jabso up the arso.

Your board and the way it is run is deplorable.

Stay there,where all the little dicks can bond...in privacy......and u can police all the outside world thoughts you like.

Scum.

 

[Jabso]

would you give me a card for posting this about your coach on your board?

No.

It's just the feeling I get from Richmond supporters at least the most vocal ones on bigfooty and the radio and the couple of ones I know (who tbh aren't the most passionate or knowledgeable supporters). I thought surely most of you are behind him. I am surprised at the totally unreasonable response I got from this post from a few people but hey thats bigfooty.

 

[Jabso]

I'll take on face value that you aren't trolling and say this: There is a perception in the football 'community' that Terry isn't appreciated by RFC supporters. This is BS. I know a couple of dozen and they all agree that he is the man to take us up to and through our next period of success. However long it takes.

This is exactly what is behind my post. That's the perception I get not only from bigfooty but from a select few loudmouth Tigers who call SEN. I was just seeing what the real story was thank you for understanding my post and not just looking at what club I support and going ape. Although perhaps I did word it a bit bluntly saying "Surely some of you have faith" instead of "What is the real story surely this is not true."

As for Mick the perception may be that we universally think he is the savior and all that but there are a minority that absolutely hate the guy and think he's useless but you guys probably don't hear from them. I guess there is a anti-Wallace bias on bigfooty that does kind of skew that perception I had about Richmonds feelings towards him. I suppose you guys are so sick of the crap he cops you don't bother defending him any more which I can't blame you.

 

[deliberate!!]

No.

It's just the feeling I get from Richmond supporters at least the most vocal ones on bigfooty and the radio and the couple of ones I know (who tbh aren't the most passionate or knowledgeable supporters). I thought surely most of you are behind him. I am surprised at the totally unreasonable response I got from this post from a few people but hey thats bigfooty.

You just keep swinging the hook and the bait......don't you.
I know some Collingwood supporters who hate Eddie, think you will be rudderless this season without Buckley, that your Cheer Leader is an over exposed embarrassment, and YOUR coach can't get you over the line. Do I post that shit as a TROLL on your board?

Wallace may be a dud. Wallace may be great coach one day.
But he's OUR coach. Look at Malthouse before you start slinging muck.

We need a higher body then the absolute power some of these numb-nuts have.
Therefore, a simple question, who Moderates the Moderators?

This dude is a troll, baiting us with HIS 'feeling' for OUR club.

Who can warn him, who can card him?