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Langford4FBOTC said:
Was talking to a mate today with contacts into one of the state teams. The prevailing view amongst coaches and players is that beyond 50 overs the ball is very difficult to pick up. Obvious solution is to change the ball over every 50 overs regardless of its condition.... fair for both sides then. Might seem radical, but so is a pink ball and a day/night 4/5day game.
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It would seem like we are then creating another form of the game. How would you compare stats from a day/night test for example with a normal test match?

And as for it being an attempt to draw bigger crowds, I will not be going to a day/night test as I don't like watching sport at night.
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
It would seem like we are then creating another form of the game. How would you compare stats from a day/night test for example with a normal test match?

And as for it being an attempt to draw bigger crowds, I will not be going to a day/night test as I don't like watching sport at night.
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I hear what you're saying, but the game is full of inconsistencies. Pitches, continents, duke vs kookaburra balls, roped in boundaries, bottle tops and lollies, bat making. The game evolves. It seems the only consistent things are two teams, four innings and 5 days play ( although this last one hasn't always been the case). All of that hasn't stopped us from comparing players and eras.
 
Langford4FBOTC said:
I hear what you're saying, but the game is full of inconsistencies. Pitches, continents, duke vs kookaburra balls, roped in boundaries, bottle tops and lollies, bat making. The game evolves. It seems the only consistent things are two teams, four innings and 5 days play ( although this last one hasn't always been the case). All of that hasn't stopped us from comparing players and eras.
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Different continents and different balls is not the same as changing something like the number of overs before the new ball is taken, not to mention we would have inconsistency between two types of tests (day versus day/night) within the one era (80 balls for normal tests, and 50 for the day/night tests).
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
Different continents and different balls is not the same as changing something like the number of overs before the new ball is taken, not to mention we would have inconsistency between two types of tests (day versus day/night) within the one era (80 balls for normal tests, and 50 for the day/night tests).
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It is if you think about the affect various grounds and pitches have on the condition of said ball and the durability of balls across manufactures.
Still boils down to a contest between bat and ball.
 

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Langford4FBOTC said:
Was talking to a mate today with contacts into one of the state teams. The prevailing view amongst coaches and players is that beyond 50 overs the ball is very difficult to pick up. Obvious solution is to change the ball over every 50 overs regardless of its condition.... fair for both sides then. Might seem radical, but so is a pink ball and a day/night 4/5day game.
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Trouble is, changing the ball after 50 overs for a new ball is not in the playing conditions. If they change a ball after 50 overs, it must be replaced by a ball in similar condition. All I can say is, I'd hate to be a player such as Khawaja walking in to resurrect his Test career and having to adjust to a 50 over old pink ball that looks green in artificial light.
 
Adelaide Hawk said:
Trouble is, changing the ball after 50 overs for a new ball is not in the playing conditions. If they change a ball after 50 overs, it must be replaced by a ball in similar condition. All I can say is, I'd hate to be a player such as Khawaja walking in to resurrect his Test career and having to adjust to a 50 over old pink ball that looks green in artificial light.
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Players don't like it but are resigned to the fact that CA are pushing ahead no matter what. You'd think common sense would prevail though.
 
Langford4FBOTC said:
Players don't like it but are resigned to the fact that CA are pushing ahead no matter what. You'd think common sense would prevail though.
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The problem with "common sense" is that it is a little less common than you would think ..... especially when there are $$$$$$ to be made.

Sports administration couldn't give a toss what players want.
 
Adelaide Hawk said:
Trouble is, changing the ball after 50 overs for a new ball is not in the playing conditions. If they change a ball after 50 overs, it must be replaced by a ball in similar condition. All I can say is, I'd hate to be a player such as Khawaja walking in to resurrect his Test career and having to adjust to a 50 over old pink ball that looks green in artificial light.
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Changing the ball changes everything. As you point out, you can't just give the bowling team twice as many new balls so you now need to produce old balls that still have the right colour to enable batsman to see the ball. I don't understand why day/night first class cricket wasn't trialed in order to see if it is viable at international level. They seem to have just decided to go in blind. Crazy administration.
 
Burns scored two half centuries in his last match before getting dropped. I think he is a super talent and will come to be a very good test player.

Khawaja has been extremely good since returning from a knee and deserves his chance now. The next best behind them are generally journeymen and young guns who are yet to master their game.
 
Well they have both justified their selection now. Good on them. I like Joe Burns, I know he has a bit of talent, but like most of the batsmen in this particular generation, they just don't seem to know how to translate it.

I get the feeling that this shield season is going to expose a few younger talents. Sensational debut the other day from that Dean guy, and Bancroft is shaping to be another player with that little bit extra.
 

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So, which of the mitches pitches the six stitches on the pitches with the least glitches?
 
I think it's going rather well, don't you? :)

Seriously, I've been following the score while at work the past 2 days ... plenty of runs, no wickets. I get home tonight and see 4 wickets in about half an hour. Amazing stuff. Just proves what Dennis Lillee fans have known for decades. Doesn't matter how flat and unresponsive a wicket seems to be, if you bend the back, work hard, and bowl the correct balls, the wickets will come.
 
NZ vs AUS rivalry is probably one of the dumbest rivalries in the world, we are not really in completely the same circle. We smash them in our national sport, hardly anyone over there cares, we get beaten by them in their national sport, they go ballistic sending you annoying messages, but apart from that, you don't really care.
 

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Brishawk said:
Warner. He's so hot right now. Warner.
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Though if you were approaching 200 you'd be loving the fact that you were facing the vicious bowling of Guptill & McCullum. The Kiwi's certainly haven't had any luck go their way.

And to give Khawaja not out when he was on 40 was a bt sht. Them bowlers were a bt pssd ff.
 

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