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It is just a number on a jumper.

Brett Stanton can not disgrace it by playing a poor game in it. It is a number on a jumper.

It does not possess magical powers that make the player play better when wearing the number 5, players do not become Hird-like when they wear the number 5. It is just a number on a jumper.

So can you guys please stop crapping on about how "stanton is a disgrace to the 5!!!!!" and expecting him to play Hird-like games? It is really annoying. Thank you.
 
Did you watch the first half? So he missed a few shots on goal. If he was'nt there (moreso Fletcher, but Stanton too) we'd have been more troubled.

Get off his back just because you expect him to win the god damngame off his own back. There were many many many many players out there who didn't give us half as much as Stanton.
 
I realise his workrate is good week in week out and his heart is good but his crucial mistakes in many games at important times is so heartbreaking. Look at Prismall in the last 10 minutes today, he played very well. Didn't try anything special but played smart footy.

Still, i rate Stanton, just annoyed at today's result.
 

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Stanton is an ok-good player. Should never have been given the number 5, it should have been retired until we found a player worthy. This is my opinion. Some people think the number means nothing but i disagree. It is steeped in history and players feel privelaged to wear certain numbers.
 
I realise his workrate is good week in week out and his heart is good but his crucial mistakes in many games at important times is so heartbreaking. Look at Prismall in the last 10 minutes today, he played very well. Didn't try anything special but played smart footy.

Look at Stanton in the last 5 mins of the game. Kicked a goal, passed to Reimers who kicked a goal, etc...

Jesus christ you have no clue do you?
 
Look at Stanton in the last 5 mins of the game. Kicked a goal, passed to Reimers who kicked a goal, etc...

Jesus christ you have no clue do you?

Listen mate, i have said Stanton does a lot of good hard work but makes crucial mistakes at crucial times. How about you stop making excuses for a player of his experience and supposed "elite status" and start expecting these skill errors be eradicated.

If his career continues as it is now, he will be remembered as a good, hard-working, serviceable player, without being anything special.
 
Stanton is an ok-good player. Should never have been given the number 5, it should have been retired until we found a player worthy. This is my opinion. Some people think the number means nothing but i disagree. It is steeped in history and players feel privelaged to wear certain numbers.

Totally agree
 
Look at Stanton in the last 5 mins of the game. Kicked a goal, passed to Reimers who kicked a goal, etc...

Jesus christ you have no clue do you?

What part of what he said is wrong? Stanton is a clanger king and makes a lot of stupid errors. He is a pure outside player but does not have great skills. His defensive skills are also quite ordinary. This is what makes him a good player and not very good. THe goal he missed from 15m directly in front was very costly.
 
If you want to complain about a player then it should be McVeigh. He was absolutely useless today on top of being an ass off the field in recent times. Stanton may make some errors, but he does not act like a douche off the field and then just expect to slip back into the team (like McViegh). Back to BB for McVeigh.
 
FFS do people watch games.

These were the people who were worse than Stants today and there were a lot of them.

Pears - terrible
Hurley - ordinary
Welsh - shocking, gave away 4 goals
Davey - ineffective
Lovett - in and out
Lovett-Murray - ineffective
Lucas - slow
Lloyd - injured but still largely iuneffective
McVeigh - no good today
Monfries - ineffectiive
McPhee - just okay
Reimers - in and out

Stanton was probably the best in the first half. Sick of him being the scapegoat. Have alook at how Pears and co got towelled up by the Richmond forwards today and there's your problem.
 
FFS do people watch games.

These were the people who were worse than Stants today and there were a lot of them.

Pears - terrible
Hurley - ordinary
Welsh - shocking, gave away 4 goals
Davey - ineffective
Lovett - in and out
Lovett-Murray - ineffective
Lucas - slow
Lloyd - injured but still largely iuneffective
McVeigh - no good today
Monfries - ineffectiive
McPhee - just okay
Reimers - in and out

Stanton was probably the best in the first half. Sick of him being the scapegoat. Have alook at how Pears and co got towelled up by the Richmond forwards today and there's your problem.

Spot on Daytripper. If it is not already obvious, I have just about had it with Mcveigh.
 
Get off his back. People are very harsh on Stanton. He has been one of our best this year. Expect him to finish in the top 3 again.
 

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Wtf are you people on about? Spikey started a thread about the number 5 jumper and how he thinks Stanton is worthy because it is just a number. I have offered my opinions on why i don't regard him as being worthy. I did not say he was the worst player on the ground today. FFS why even start the thread if both points of views are not allowed?
 
Spot on Daytripper. If it is not already obvious, I have just about had it with Mcveigh.


What has this thread got to do with McVeigh? I have been calling for him to be dropped for a few weeks now but why would i bring him up in this thread?
 
What has this thread got to do with McVeigh? I have been calling for him to be dropped for a few weeks now but why would i bring him up in this thread?

Nothing really, I am just so very pissed off with him.
 
Probably the hardest worker in our team. If only some of the other players would run as hard for as long, he might be able to find space with the ball a bit more frequently.

Yes he works very hard when we have the ball.
 
If you listened to the MMM commentary, they just focused on how poor Stanton's kicking effectiveness was (40% apparently). That doesn't tell the story IMO...he was amongst our best in the first half today (when the rest of the team lacked intensity). Ran hard, tried to create some flow and accelerate the movement of the ball...

Beyond today? Well effort is perhaps the most important criteria for me, and if we had more players applying themselves like Brent Stanton, we would win a lot more games. I think you can look at his body shape and see he works hard in the gym. I think you watch our games live and see that he works hard until the final siren...
 

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While his game today left a lot (and I mean a lot) to be desired, Stants is consistently one of our better performers, and the shit he cops is embarrassing.

He's not James Hird. But then again, no one in the whole competition is James Hird.

So shut the **** up, and look at Stants objectively.
 
If you listened to the MMM commentary, they just focused on how poor Stanton's kicking effectiveness was (40% apparently). That doesn't tell the story IMO...he was amongst our best in the first half today (when the rest of the team lacked intensity). Ran hard, tried to create some flow and accelerate the movement of the ball...

Beyond today? Well effort is perhaps the most important criteria for me, and if we had more players applying themselves like Brent Stanton, we would win a lot more games. I think you can look at his body shape and see he works hard in the gym. I think you watch our games live and see that he works hard until the final siren...

64% effective today from 25v possessions (far from ideal) but was responsible for 6 inside 50s.

Essendon had 55 inside 50s compared to Richmonds 43. Thats where the game was won and lost. Our defence was woeful today.
 
64% effective today from 25v possessions (far from ideal) but was responsible for 6 inside 50s.

Essendon had 55 inside 50s compared to Richmonds 43. Thats where the game was won and lost. Our defence was woeful today.

What's the point it getting it inside 50 when you can't hit a target and the ball is just rebounded out again.

This is more so having a go at the team and not Stanton.
 
Stanton is an ok-good player. Should never have been given the number 5, it should have been retired until we found a player worthy. This is my opinion. Some people think the number means nothing but i disagree. It is steeped in history and players feel privelaged to wear certain numbers.

Can't say that I believe in retiring numbers until the right person comes along.

When Jimmy got the number from TD there couldn't have been the expectation that this kid will honour the number and become a legend of the game (perhaps the hope).
 
64% effective today from 25v possessions (far from ideal) but was responsible for 6 inside 50s.

Essendon had 55 inside 50s compared to Richmonds 43. Thats where the game was won and lost. Our defence was woeful today.

That efficiency rate is around where he has been most of the year, sometimes lower. Our forwards need a compass when they lead towards most of our mids. All the I50 stat tells me is we dont hit targets.
 
Beyond today? Well effort is perhaps the most important criteria for me, and if we had more players applying themselves like Brent Stanton, we would win a lot more games. I think you can look at his body shape and see he works hard in the gym. I think you watch our games live and see that he works hard until the final siren...[/quote]

okay so he missed.. boohoo FFS.
if stanton isnt youre best player then id be damned.
future captain of the efc imo and one of your best week-in, week-out.

and um btw.. pretty sure hird wasnt the best kick going round but that hasnt stopped him from being the greatest ive seen..

chill dudes
 

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