Resource The Number Crunch

[Kilroy]

Fresh out of the pack. Crisp and crunchy!

These are the latest average weekly posting numbers after Round 5 in Season 41 - a first look at how your team has started the year.

5 teams have already had a bye, so we’ll just compare your team’s average posts with everyone else’s average per round.

Are you ready?

1. *Royals - 928 posts/week
2. Bombers - 675
3. *Bears - 597
4. *OOBs - 533
5. Hawks - 523
6. Warriors - 486
7. Demons - 444
8. Roys - 303
9. Dragons - 292
10. *Swamprats - 252
11. Gumbies - 249
12. *Furies - 160
13. Wonders - 135

* Only played 4 games

Thanks to Tonga Bob and the team of collators involved in the post count thread.

 

[Braklet]

Sweet FA is dying! OOB suck! Bombers suck! And now Royals suck!

<insert complaint here>

• spamming isn't engagement!
• Dad jokes and memes SUCK. You people SUCK.
• Why, back when I started this place ROCKED! Now, well just look at it...

Please, feel free to add your own complaints to the list!

 

[Pamcake1]

Sweet FA is dying! OOB suck! Bombers suck! And now Royals suck!

<insert complaint here>

• spamming isn't engagement!
• Dad jokes and memes SUCK. You people SUCK.
• Why, back when I started this place ROCKED! Now, well just look at it...

Please, feel free to add your own complaints to the list!

I said this in discussion on Sunday:

"If only for the fact that it is a quick survey of the other teams posting stats and the info that can be extrapolated from them as to the 'health' of the SFA.
Which seems to me to continue to be on the downhill slide.
Are the MODs / Committee taking notice of this?

It doesn't help the SFA that thread boycotts seem to be more noticeable...
Is this happening to other teams?
My take on the boycotts is it's bad sportsmanship that is ultimately self defeating.

It is also a 'sign of the times' on all social media.....bitterness, nastiness, negativity, toxicity, boredom, entrenched thinking/positions, intolerance.
All the above elements are certainly more apparent to me on the BF site in the last year. I'm hoping that there will be some improvement over the course of the season."

Add to the above:
Spamming that is reductive.
AI 'slabs of type', that have a 'know it all vibe' that are banal, conceited and valueless.
Blame rather than ownership and participation.
Overused tropes that are unimaginative and reductive (Simpersons and Title of Your Sex Tape)

"When your dreams are dying all the time......"
(borrowing a Jabba73 mechanic here)

 

[Headless]

Overused tropes that are unimaginative and reductive (Simpersons...)

 

[Gralin]

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Fresh out of the pack. Crisp and crunchy!

These are the latest average weekly posting numbers after Round 5 in Season 41 - a first look at how your team has started the year.

5 teams have already had a bye, so we’ll just compare your team’s average posts with everyone else’s average per round.

Are you ready?

1. *Royals - 928 posts/week
2. Bombers - 675
3. *Bears - 597
4. *OOBs - 533
5. Hawks - 523
6. Warriors - 486
7. Demons - 444
8. Roys - 303
9. Dragons - 292
10. *Swamprats - 252
11. Gumbies - 249
12. *Furies - 160
13. Wonders - 135

* Only played 4 games

Thanks to Tonga Bob and the team of collators involved in the post count thread.

What I take from this is that the Demons and Warriors are in the Goldilocks zone, right Tonga Bob

 

[Pamcake1]

 

[Pugsley]

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I feel sleepy. I hear that Pam.

 

[Pamcake1]

I feel sleepy. I hear that Pam.

 

[Pugsley]

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That is pretty much it

 

[Tonga Bob]

What I take from this is that the Demons and Warriors are in the Goldilocks zone, right Tonga Bob

What I take from this is that the Demons and Warriors are in the Goldilocks zone, right Tonga Bob

This shitposting is just right!

 

[Gralin]

I said this in discussion on Sunday:

"If only for the fact that it is a quick survey of the other teams posting stats and the info that can be extrapolated from them as to the 'health' of the SFA.
Which seems to me to continue to be on the downhill slide.
Are the MODs / Committee taking notice of this?

the mods and the committee are two separate groups with two separate functions

no point lumping them together here

out of interest do you think a constant focus on the league dying would help with engagement and attracting new posters?

It doesn't help the SFA that thread boycotts seem to be more noticeable...
Is this happening to other teams?
My take on the boycotts is it's bad sportsmanship that is ultimately self defeating.

I'm not really sure what this is about, also really not sure what you mean by bad sportsmanship or what relevance it has to posting numbers

It is also a 'sign of the times' on all social media.....bitterness, nastiness, negativity, toxicity, boredom, entrenched thinking/positions, intolerance.
All the above elements are certainly more apparent to me on the BF site in the last year. I'm hoping that there will be some improvement over the course of the season."

I'd say this particular issue is bigger than big footy or social media, though social media certainly plays a part in the problem

again though I'm not really sure that it's relevant to a discussion on league health beyond pointing out the issues the league are experiencing are caused by largely external factors

Add to the above:
Spamming that is reductive.
AI 'slabs of type', that have a 'know it all vibe' that are banal, conceited and valueless.
Blame rather than ownership and participation.
Overused tropes that are unimaginative and reductive (Simpersons and Title of Your Sex Tape)

"When your dreams are dying all the time......"
(borrowing a Jabba73 mechanic here)

well at least you bring a lot of positivity to the board to help drive up engagement

 

[Pamcake1]

Firstly Gralin lets get the context nailed down here, my comment was copied from another conversation bc it was relevant to Braklets comment and the OP. It is not an attack, I posted it for general discussion purposes on the forum.

the mods and the committee are two separate groups with two separate functions

no point lumping them together here

Don't both groups have crossover of the interest in and of the 'health of the league'.

out of interest do you think a constant focus on the league dying would help with engagement and attracting new posters?

The above I'm reading as an accusation directed towards me which is unfairly leveled, as I am not generating a constant focus on the 'league dying'. Not once have I said that particular phrase.
I and others have noticed that there is an apparent posting and posters fall off, it is noticeable to many here and many want to discuss it.
Open discussion is beneficial in finding solutions, sharing information, hive minding and a sign of a willingness to tackle issues such as poster/posters fall off.
Attracting new posters is not in conflict with the above reasoning.
Presenting the SFA as a 'Potemkin village' of like minded minions via ham fisted control or the censorship of genuine concerns or opinions, will not garner the engagement, endurance or interest of new nor existing posters.
There are merits in constructive criticism as opposed to just having a whinge and I understand that it can be difficult to locate the defining line between the two when, as I said in my original comment about social media sites being riven by negative behavoirs and an overall lack of tollerance of the other in contemporary discourse.

I'm not really sure what this is about, also really not sure what you mean by bad sportsmanship or what relevance it has to posting numbers

This comment relates to part of a conversation about 'match thread boycotts' as stated in the opening sentence where I put it in context.
Understandably if 'match thread boycotts' happen, posting numbers are skewed.

I'd say this particular issue is bigger than big footy or social media, though social media certainly plays a part in the problem

Yes it is, that is why it is there as part of that engagement in intelligent conversation.
There is a conversation to be had about legacy media, specifically social media, as it has developed over the past 2 decades and societal interaction.

again though I'm not really sure that it's relevant to a discussion on league health beyond pointing out the issues the league are experiencing are caused by largely external factors

What are these external factors?
If you are wanting to engage in a relevant discussion, it would be beneficial to understand the specifics here as I am not understanding what you mean.
Otherwise this sentence seems to be a defensive response with a reiterative qualifier.

well at least you bring a lot of positivity to the board to help drive up engagement

This closure in your reply, I hope is not as patronising as it reads.
It is true that I engage with the site and the characters on it, with the awareness that no one is either wholly positive or negative (that's self inclussive) given any moment in time.
Needless to say I don't have a Cassandra complex about the SFA, nor am I indulging in nihilism, I may suffer from overseriousness on occasion however each to their own huh!

 

[Brenton Davy]

It is also a 'sign of the times' on all social media.....bitterness, nastiness, negativity, toxicity, boredom, entrenched thinking/positions, intolerance

Been reading the Adelaide board gave you?

 

[Gralin]

Firstly Gralin lets get the context nailed down here, my comment was copied from another conversation bc it was relevant to Braklets comment and the OP. It is not an attack, I posted it for general discussion purposes on the forum.

Don't both groups have crossover of the interest in and of the 'health of the league'.

The above I'm reading as an accusation directed towards me which is unfairly leveled, as I am not generating a constant focus on the 'league dying'. Not once have I said that particular phrase.
I and others have noticed that there is an apparent posting and posters fall off, it is noticeable to many here and many want to discuss it.
Open discussion is beneficial in finding solutions, sharing information, hive minding and a sign of a willingness to tackle issues such as poster/posters fall off.
Attracting new posters is not in conflict with the above reasoning.
Presenting the SFA as a 'Potemkin village' of like minded minions via ham fisted control or the censorship of genuine concerns or opinions, will not garner the engagement, endurance or interest of new nor existing posters.
There are merits in constructive criticism as opposed to just having a whinge and I understand that it can be difficult to locate the defining line between the two when, as I said in my original comment about social media sites being riven by negative behavoirs and an overall lack of tollerance of the other in contemporary discourse.


This comment relates to part of a conversation about 'match thread boycotts' as stated in the opening sentence where I put it in context.
Understandably if 'match thread boycotts' happen, posting numbers are skewed.

Yes it is, that is why it is there as part of that engagement in intelligent conversation.
There is a conversation to be had about legacy media, specifically social media, as it has developed over the past 2 decades and societal interaction.


What are these external factors?
If you are wanting to engage in a relevant discussion, it would be beneficial to understand the specifics here as I am not understanding what you mean.
Otherwise this sentence seems to be a defensive response with a reiterative qualifier.


This closure in your reply, I hope is not as patronising as it reads.
It is true that I engage with the site and the characters on it, with the awareness that no one is either wholly positive or negative (that's self inclussive) given any moment in time.
Needless to say I don't have a Cassandra complex about the SFA, nor am I indulging in nihilism, I may suffer from overseriousness on occasion however each to their own huh!

about all I can really be bothered saying here is

the mod role is not a league role, its not relevant to the running of the league and should not be included like you did with the committee

leave the mods out of it

 

[Pugsley]

Been reading the Adelaide board gave you?

I find it easier just to post like I do SFA style.
They're easily confused on the Adelaide board.

 

[Headless]

League needs more music videos.

 

[Brenton Davy]

League needs more music videos.

No. No it doesn’t.

 

[Falconista]

League needs more music videos.

A duet between Tigerturbulance and I should get people talking.

 

[Kilroy]

What I take from this is that the Demons and Warriors are in the Goldilocks zone, right Tonga Bob

My “happy place”.

… the 'health' of the SFA.
Which seems to me to continue to be on the downhill slide.

The Law of Attrition?

It doesn't help the SFA that thread boycotts seem to be more noticeable...

Is this happening to other teams?
My take on the boycotts is it's bad sportsmanship that is ultimately self defeating.

I believe there’s precedent whereby if it can be proven as BTGID then penalties apply.

Not sure if apathy can be considered “deliberate”, and a penalty can be counter-productive anyway.

To assume we all know how or even want to “encourage” the opposition to post may be a factor at play here as well.

If they don’t wanna “play”, are we gonna treat them like spoilt kids? Hardly, but if we call them out, we can be accused of justifying their “no show”.

out of interest do you think a constant focus on the league dying would help with engagement and attracting new posters?

Obviously not. That would be morbid.

But the Goldilocks zone here is not beige either. A bit of spice can add a little excitement.

I'm not really sure … what you mean by bad sportsmanship or what relevance it has to posting numbers

Pam and I have spoken about this and my take is that “poor sportsmanship” could simply be another tactic of “gaming” - in other words “gamesmanship”.

One of the biggest selling points for Qooty is that you can post as much or as little as you want, but that may not satisfy the clubs who do make an effort and drive the engagement if that’s not eventually reciprocated.

It takes two to tango.

 

[Gralin]

League needs more music videos.

No. No it doesn’t.

 

[Brenton Davy]

A duet between Tigerturbulance and I should get people talking.vomiting

FTFY

 

[Gralin]

A duet between Tigerturbulance and I should get people talking.

is this the song where Turbo admits he actually did start the fire?

 

[Headless]

What are the Bombers actually referring to here? Any specific example?

 

[Pugsley]

What are the Bombers actually referring to here? Any specific example?

 

[Kilroy]

I and others have noticed that there is an apparent posting and posters fall off, it is noticeable to many here and many want to discuss it.
Open discussion is beneficial in finding solutions, sharing information, hive minding and a sign of a willingness to tackle issues such as poster/posters fall off

Personally my focus in this thread is to be unbiased and simply to observe any changes in the numbers short and long-term.

Anecdotally there’s a significant drop in rookie recruitment and certain clubs seem unconcerned about posting numbers in favour of having a “no pressure” environment.

This comment relates to part of a conversation about 'match thread boycotts' as stated in the opening sentence where I put it in context.
Understandably if 'match thread boycotts' happen, posting numbers are skewed.

What could account for “skewed” results could be more about club values.

Also some clubs are more “destination clubs” than others and clubs that “struggle” may have fallen victim to the “attraction” of active clubs.

What are these external factors?
If you are wanting to engage in a relevant discussion, it would be beneficial to understand the specifics here as I am not understanding what you mean.

If we have no control over them we are probably better off looking at things we do have control of?

What are the Bombers actually referring to here? Any specific example?

We have a variety of views on this so we’re not collectively referring to any one “example”.