The Pick 8 Poll

[camboon]

Trengrove or Mckernan are a must as Vickery and Hurley will not be around. We need a Ruckman and a Key Forward.

I like JT as he the reports suggest hes recovered from his injury! (I would chnge my mind if the reports are wrong)

He will add a bit of agression and competitive that has been the missing thing at the Tigers.

 

[Toadvine]

yea mckernan is good but i still think trengove is the way to go.good athlete,great football ability and a fierce competitor he has the makings of a super ruckmen come forward.he reminds a lot of simmonds actually the way hes so mobile and a pretty decent kick for a big guy.i rekan its about 80% likely he will still be there at pick 8 and we should seriously consider him.

i know hes had a couple of injuries recently so it may take him 1 or 2 years to really play good footy but it would be worth the wait.he has beaten kreuzer, mcevoy, vickery to name a few so he obviously has huge potential and the ability to beat other highly touted ruckmen. if he became injury free he could become one of the best big men in the game.anyone else feel the same? would any of you love to see the big fella in the yellow and black next year. please discuss.

I totally agree mate and I've been a big advocate for him on here,
People say they don't believe he can play Ruck at AFL level yet he's 196cm the same height as Simmonds.
He's renowned for his massive leap and palm technique and he's only 18 he can still grow another a few cm at least.
he's a great pick up below his knees and has a keen sense around goal.
The kid can play anywhere CHF CHB Ruck and will add much need height to our list. He was also touted as a top 5 pick before injury and He's is my first choice for pick 8.

I want him

 

[foley4brownlow]

I totally agree mate and I've been a big advocate for him on here,
People say they don't believe he can play Ruck at AFL level yet he's 196cm the same height as Simmonds.
He's renowned for his massive leap and palm technique and he's only 18 he can still grow another a few cm at least.
he's a great pick up below his knees and has a keen sense around goal.
The kid can play anywhere CHF CHB Ruck and will add much need height to our list. He was also touted as a top 5 pick before injury and He's is my first choice for pick 8.

I want him

damn right. he can make up for those 4 or 5cms he lacks (to be a ruckmen) by using his massive leap and hes a good athlete so he will be good around the ground. and when hes gets tired he can rest up forward coz hes bloody handy up there to. so pick 8 jackson tengove is hopefully wot i wil be hearing on noveber 29.if he comes to punt road me and you elliot will have to fight over ownership of number 1 fan

 

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I totally agree mate and I've been a big advocate for him on here,
People say they don't believe he can play Ruck at AFL level yet he's 196cm the same height as Simmonds.
He's renowned for his massive leap and palm technique and he's only 18 he can still grow another a few cm at least.
he's a great pick up below his knees and has a keen sense around goal.
The kid can play anywhere CHF CHB Ruck and will add much need height to our list. He was also touted as a top 5 pick before injury and He's is my first choice for pick 8.

I want him

damn right. he can make up for those 4 or 5cms he lacks (to be a ruckmen) by using his massive leap and hes a good athlete so he will be good around the ground. and when hes gets tired he can rest up forward coz hes bloody handy up there to. so pick 8 jackson tengove is hopefully wot i wil be hearing on noveber 29.if he comes to punt road me and you elliot will have to fight over ownership of number 1 fan

This is what I don't understand, everyone raves about Trengove being a great pickup as he can play ruck and KP despite being 196cm and yet they query whether McKernan can play those positions despite also being 196cm tall as well.

Add to that McKernan has great agility(top 10 at draft camp), very good speed(2.95sec for 20m) and a great vertical leap (74cm).

So why is it that everyone seems to think that McKernan is a dud and Trengove a superstar when they both appear to have the same attributes?

IMO if we're to go tall with pick 8 either one would be a worthy selection, the only reason I prefer McKernan is he has a build that suggests he could play senior footy as early as next year, while Trengove would require at least 1-2 years tucked away at Coburg before he would be in the same position.

 

[LordVennII]

Not one mention of Mitch Robinson.... Are you all drunk?????

 

[GIVELIDSTHEFOOTY]

Jackson Trengove for me i just love the name lol sounds like a porno star

 

[Toadvine]

This is what I don't understand, everyone raves about Trengove being a great pickup as he can play ruck and KP despite being 196cm and yet they query whether McKernan can play those positions despite also being 196cm tall as well.

Add to that McKernan has great agility(top 10 at draft camp), very good speed(2.95sec for 20m) and a great vertical leap (74cm).

So why is it that everyone seems to think that McKernan is a dud and Trengove a superstar when they both appear to have the same attributes?

IMO if we're to go tall with pick 8 either one would be a worthy selection, the only reason I prefer McKernan is he has a build that suggests he could play senior footy as early as next year, while Trengove would require at least 1-2 years tucked away at Coburg before he would be in the same position.

You make a good point Realistic and after watching his tapes again I wouldn't be upset if we picked up Mckernan.

I cant really debate over which ones better because I haven't seen any of them play aside from the youtube highlights.
It's just my personal preference I guess.

 

[foley4brownlow]

Not one mention of Mitch Robinson.... Are you all drunk?????

not with pick 8. i dont think hes better then trengove,mckernan,ziebell and hartlett but i think theres a small chance he will be there at pick 26 if he is definetly grab him, absolute jet.could become one of the picks of the draft but i would just like us to get a trengove, mckernan or a vickery with our 1st selection. if we ended up with 1 of those and robinson this would be a fantastic draft for us, one to savour.

 

[foley4brownlow]

This is what I don't understand, everyone raves about Trengove being a great pickup as he can play ruck and KP despite being 196cm and yet they query whether McKernan can play those positions despite also being 196cm tall as well.

Add to that McKernan has great agility(top 10 at draft camp), very good speed(2.95sec for 20m) and a great vertical leap (74cm).

So why is it that everyone seems to think that McKernan is a dud and Trengove a superstar when they both appear to have the same attributes?

IMO if we're to go tall with pick 8 either one would be a worthy selection, the only reason I prefer McKernan is he has a build that suggests he could play senior footy as early as next year, while Trengove would require at least 1-2 years tucked away at Coburg before he would be in the same position.

i like the looks of mckernan alo and would be more than happy to get him. i just favour trengove more because of his competitive nature and the fact he has claimed sum big scalps in junior days.mckernan is a great athlete and trengove more of a footballer and as the saying goes a footballer before an athlete. by know means am i saying trengove is the better choice because nothing is a given in the draft these days im just saying i would prefer trengove for the reasons given. both should go on to become super big men in the game and forge good careers. either way i would be happy, so for pick 8 jackson trengove (slightly more of a prefrence) or shaun mckernan

 

[beaver fever]

because nothing is a given in the draft these days

Hehe, these days.

 

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You make a good point Realistic and after watching his tapes again I wouldn't be upset if we picked up Mckernan.

I cant really debate over which ones better because I haven't seen any of them play aside from the youtube highlights.
It's just my personal preference I guess.

i like the looks of mckernan alo and would be more than happy to get him. i just favour trengove more because of his competitive nature and the fact he has claimed sum big scalps in junior days.mckernan is a great athlete and trengove more of a footballer and as the saying goes a footballer before an athlete. by know means am i saying trengove is the better choice because nothing is a given in the draft these days im just saying i would prefer trengove for the reasons given. both should go on to become super big men in the game and forge good careers. either way i would be happy, so for pick 8 jackson trengove (slightly more of a prefrence) or shaun mckernan

Its all good. For much the same reasons you both prefer Trengove, I prefer McKernan. I have different preferences depending on what the club decides to do with the first 2 picks, if Cameron decides to go tall and calls out McKernan I'll be rather pleased, however, if Trengove is the name that Cameron calls out come draft day I wont be disappointed either.

On the other hand, if he decides to take a midfielder then I am hoping like hell that Hartlett or Ziebell falls through and am warming to the idea of getting someone like Lisle with 26.

 

[foley4brownlow]

Its all good. For much the same reasons you both prefer Trengove, I prefer McKernan. I have different preferences depending on what the club decides to do with the first 2 picks, if Cameron decides to go tall and calls out McKernan I'll be rather pleased, however, if Trengove is the name that Cameron calls out come draft day I wont be disappointed either.

On the other hand, if he decides to take a midfielder then I am hoping like hell that Hartlett or Ziebell falls through and am warming to the idea of getting someone like Lisle with 26.

seriously i dont know a lot about roughead, realistic tiger wot can you tell me about him does he have anywere near the ability of mckernan or trengove. maybe taking a hartett or ziebell at 8 and roughy at 26 might be an idea or macca or trenny at 8 and like a banner shuey type at 26. personally i would rather get the best tall at 8 and a decent mid at 26. wots you thoughts?

 

[_RT_]

seriously i dont know a lot about roughead, realistic tiger wot can you tell me about him does he have anywere near the ability of mckernan or trengove. maybe taking a hartett or ziebell at 8 and roughy at 26 might be an idea or macca or trenny at 8 and like a banner shuey type at 26. personally i would rather get the best tall at 8 and a decent mid at 26. wots you thoughts?

I probably know about as much as you. Any info I have is gathered from the likes of the drafts and trading board. I will say one thing though, TFLUA-Tiger is one of our 'experts' when it comes to the kids and has been participating in a Phantom draft taking the Tigers picks. In the second round he sid he would take McKernan if available but had to settle for Roughead. I think it had to do with the fact McKernan has more strings to his bow.

 

[foley4brownlow]

I probably know about as much as you. Any info I have is gathered from the likes of the drafts and trading board. I will say one thing though, TFLUA-Tiger is one of our 'experts' when it comes to the kids and has been participating in a Phantom draft taking the Tigers picks. In the second round he sid he would take McKernan if available but had to settle for Roughead. I think it had to do with the fact McKernan has more strings to his bow.

well i guess you can look at it one of two ways. ziebell and hartlett being far more superior to any mid you will pick up at 26. and mckernan or trengove only having a slight edge over roughead. so you would rather get the a grade mid at 8 and get big roughy at 26 or in the unlikely event mckernan is still there get him. we probably would gain more this way then big at 8 and small at 26 coz the gap would be larger if you get my drift.

to make it easier scenario 1- pick 8 -ziebell or hartlett pick 26 roughead
gun mid decent ruck

scenario 2- pick 8- trengove or mckernan pick 26- shuey or banner
gun ruck ok mid
so scenario 1 would be better because you get two really good players as for scenario 2 you only really get a gun ruck and just an ok mid.

 

[Toadvine]

scenario 2- pick 8- trengove or mckernan pick 26- shuey or banner
gun ruck ok mid

I was thinking more a Hannebery, Suban, Beams, Rockliff, Strauss, Robinson or Heyne.Imagine if Ash Smith slipped we could grab him.

 

[telsor]

scenario 2- pick 8- trengove or mckernan pick 26- shuey or banner
gun ruck ok mid

Neither of them really have the height to make it as an AFL level Ruckman. They can pinch hit or maybe play second ruck, but to be worthy of pick 8, I think they need to be able to take a position and make it their own, so it's a matter of IF the can make it as a KP.

I hope they can, because really, these 2 are the sort we need as potential big/power forwards ( we have plenty of mid sized forwards, who can provide the mobility but we need a focal point who will either take the contested mark or make holes/crumbs for others to work with ). We took Putt last year with that in mind, but another option would probably be a wise choice. I prefer Trengove because I've heard very good things about his competitive attitude and willingness to use his body, but McKernan has a lot of good judges as fans too.

 

[foley4brownlow]

scenario 2- pick 8- trengove or mckernan pick 26- shuey or banner
gun ruck ok mid

I was thinking more a Hannebery, Suban, Beams, Rockliff, Strauss, Robinson or Heyne.Imagine if Ash Smith slipped we could grab him.

dont really know a whole lot about ash smith wot can you tell about him

 

[Toadvine]

dont really know a whole lot about ash smith wot can you tell about him

The "experts" around the draft board claim he's late first early second rounder and is a utility/wingman.

Here are some quotes and videos I found around the place.

"185cm at 85kg. He is a strong, utility type player that is capable of playing a defensive and attacking game. Has plenty of dash and mainly played across half back or on the wing this year for the Rays. For me his best attribute is his kicking skills, not only can he hit targets off both feet often but he can hit targets over 50 metres, thumping right foot kick. He is very aggressive at the ball and plays with a touch of arrogance which i like. He is one of my favourties and personally, with his skills set i think he should be taken somewhere in the middle to late 2nd round, quality player."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC4i0HCunE4


"recorded the fastest time for 20m at 2.80 seconds, just short of Danyle Pearce's record of 2.79 secs at the D.C. So yeah, he's fairly quick. He does have a thumping kick too, i would've liked to have seen his ability to hit a target under pressure and at variant distances, and how good his hands are below the knees. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4Uvjs4Wh1Q

 

[peggles]

scenario 2- pick 8- trengove or mckernan pick 26- shuey or banner
gun ruck ok mid

I was thinking more a Hannebery, Suban, Beams, Rockliff, Strauss, Robinson or Heyne.Imagine if Ash Smith slipped we could grab him.

these still don't come close to the likes of hartlett when it comes to midfield ability.

and as good as trengove and mckernan are at junior level, despite their athleticism, it's still mighty hard for them to be full time rucks in the AFL. so if that's the case, it defeats the purpose i guess.

i'd still go mid (hartlett) at 8 and pick a tall with pick 26. roughead as a ruck and if mckernan slips then i would pick him up to be the chf

 

[Toadvine]

you could argue the same about Trengove and Roughhead but I guess it all comes to where everyone falls on draft day,
Cameron may throw a curve ball you never know.
But with so much talent in this draft and a pick within the top 10 it'll be hard for anyone who is dissapointed coming out of this I think. That is unless you have your heart set on someone.

 

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Mckernan Please explain lol he would be the last player i would want at Richmond.

only kpp without injury concerns and ready to play

 

[Doobie]

scenario 2- pick 8- trengove or mckernan pick 26- shuey or banner
gun ruck ok mid


these still don't come close to the likes of hartlett when it comes to midfield ability.

and as good as trengove and mckernan are at junior level, despite their athleticism, it's still mighty hard for them to be full time rucks in the AFL. so if that's the case, it defeats the purpose i guess.

i'd still go mid (hartlett) at 8 and pick a tall with pick 26. roughead as a ruck and if mckernan slips then i would pick him up to be the chf

why do we want them as ruckman we want them as chf and get rougherd at 26 that would b big

 

[peterbuch74]

Hartlett is our target... and it seems likely that he'll land in our lap at pick 8.

 

[The Cotch]

Hartlett is our target... and it seems likely that he'll land in our lap at pick 8.

Spot on Buch

We'll find out more in 8 days time at draft night.

 

[_RT_]

Hartlett is our target... and it seems likely that he'll land in our lap at pick 8.

Seen a couple of Phantom Drafts in the last few days in the media that have us getting either Vickery or McKernan as more and more 'experts' believe we will go tall first up.

Spot on Buch

We'll find out more in 8 days time at draft night.

The latest info I had heard about Draft night was that there wasn't going to be one this year due to it being something that Miller used to run and Cameron wasn't that keen on doing it again.