FTA-TV The Sopranos

[Hodgepodge]

The producers portrayed him perfectly for what it would it would be like for a teenage boy growing up in that environment. He did have a smart mouth ( So did Meadow for that matter ) and pushed Tony's buttons quite a bit!! Not bad acting by any part IMO and he can only the play the role and the character of AJ to the script he is given. The episode when he tried to commit suicide was compelling viewing and would of hit home with all parents out there. A suicide attempt is a cry for help and the show nailed this perfectly.

Probably. He remained inscrutable to me for the entire series and I was waiting for a revelation that he was a sociopath. As a sociopath myself I saw AJ as the most realistic sociopath on that show.

I also wanted to ask about the scene in the final episode where the FBI guy gives Tony some information on Leotardo. Who was that female copper with the FBI guy and why was she giving him dirty looks?

Also was she sporting some full frontal nudity or was there an undergarment of some sort?

 

[Hodgepodge]

I believe T died.

Who killed him?

T looks up and forward, and the guy who went into the toilet was to his right and behind.

I thought maybe something happened to Meadow, as she was the only one who didn't join in at the dinner, and the camera seemed to hover over her as though something was going to happen to her, whereas the coverage of the rest of the family was very positive.

Anyways.

 

[Falchoon]

This.

It's a show I'd love to watch the entire series of, but I have no idea how I'm gonna find the time to ever do that...

I've watched season 1 and the first disk of season 2.

Definitely worth the effort, I'm sure I'll plough through more when the footy is over.

 

[XFactor1979]

the season 4 episode : whitecaps

FT MF W!

 

[charcoalchicken]

Easily one of the best T.V shows ever.

I need to buy the all the series

 

[Falchoon]

Nearly finished season 3, the Mrs has jumped on board so they're coming through a little faster now.

Love it.

Mrs is suggesting West Wing next, any thoughts? I've never seen that either.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Nearly finished season 3, the Mrs has jumped on board so they're coming through a little faster now.

Love it.

Mrs is suggesting West Wing next, any thoughts? I've never seen that either.

West Wing is extremely bloody good.

 

[XFactor1979]

i still find it hard to believe that the guy who plays silvio dante is actually one of the members of bruce springsteen's e street band

and hes also known as an 80s musician that goes by the name 'little steven', the one who put together a record of "artists AGAINST APARTHEITS!"

[lame]

- quoting bono...

[/lame]

 

[vapid1]

Probably. He remained inscrutable to me for the entire series and I was waiting for a revelation that he was a sociopath. As a sociopath myself I saw AJ as the most realistic sociopath on that show.

I also wanted to ask about the scene in the final episode where the FBI guy gives Tony some information on Leotardo. Who was that female copper with the FBI guy and why was she giving him dirty looks?

Also was she sporting some full frontal nudity or was there an undergarment of some sort?

she was just a colleague he was slamming and i presume she gave him dirty looks because she knew he gave some info to tony

 

[XFactor1979]

the 'eff you' 'youre a effing c' tony said to melfi after she rejected him in the season 5 premiere was something i should have said to this girl who i once flirted with

 

[bunsen burner]

hated the final scene for the ending.....i don`t like endings that are open to interpretation i want to be definitively told what happens but that`s just me.

The ending wasn't open to interpretation. It was abundantly clear what happened.

 

[bunsen burner]

The only part i didn't like was the shrink sessions. Bored me.

The best character:

Corrado.

"Keep walkin"

 

[bunsen burner]

Easily one of the best T.V shows ever.

I need to buy the all the series

make sure you see The Wire if you haven't already.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

I loved the ending though perhaps for the wrong reasons. The way I see it, David Chase held his audience (and/or the bigwigs at HBO who must have leaned on him pretty hard to get two or three more seasons out him than he'd have liked or anticipated) in bitter contempt. It was one of those cases where the artist/screenwriter grows to loath his creation as it slips away from him and mutates into a pop icon.

People did not watch the show for the dream sequences where the Chase had probably the biggest emotional investment or the Melfi sessions in which Chased asked the questions that were, in his eyes, the most important part of the show. Viewers tuned in for the boobies, violence and occasional racist bon mot. So he decided to shaft us and play the cocktease. His reasoning is pretty sound: we have rooted for Tony to **** and murder his way through six seasons and as soon as we are told that the show is ending we want him dead or in jail, why? Entitlement? He is basically giving us the finger and telling us that as the audience we are not entitled to shit.

He is still the creative force behind the character of Tony Soprano and can decide to do with him what he goddamn wants, it's his prerogative as an artist. And besides, he already compromised enough by extending the show. On top of the "I'm David Chase. Go **** yourselves" theory, I like to think it's an honest attempt at making a statement about season finales and "Endings" in general. He already proved during the show that he was more than happy to have loose ends and story lines that never got wrapped up, his point is that if art/TV is to imitate life then we must have an element of frustration. Closure and resolution (add Karma and comeuppance for a massive chunk of Hollywood story arcs) are disproportionately represented in storytelling when compared to real life. Most everything ends without pomp or circumstance, people who have a problem with that will always have Six Feet Under or Friends.

Also, the biggest unlikeably self centred peice of shit in that show was Carmella. She was happy to stand back with arms crossed when Tony had to step in with that permanently spoiled and stuck up little prat AJ. She only got back with Tony because of the spec house. She was a nihilistic peice of work and I hated her. Nuff said.

Sorry to rant but I always love to debate the Sopranos (and the Young ones)

 

[bunsen burner]

Also, the biggest unlikeably self centred peice of shit in that show was Carmella. She was happy to stand back with arms crossed when Tony had to step in with that permanently spoiled and stuck up little prat AJ. She only got back with Tony because of the spec house. She was a nihilistic peice of work and I hated her. Nuff said.

Carmella represents women in general. It always amazes me how these gangster molls trick themselves into believing their husbands aren't murderers etc.

If the lifestyle and money is there women will happily convince themselves that nothing is amiss.

The amount of times you see a mother convinced her son isn't a criminal, or a girlfriend who is so convinced they talk to police not realising they are incriminating him.
Personally I'm always amazed at how many women I meet who trick themselves into believing the "Louis Vuitton handbag that my aunty gave me is authentic". She's not rich, but she gave my brother a $35 Lynx pack and gave me an authentic $4000 handbag. Almsot as sad in people who convince themselves God exists.

 

[Gasometer]

My recollection was the many times she was aware of the goings on...conversations with the Creepy Minister..Meadow...AJ...the fellow gangster women. I dont think she "tricked" herself into thinking other as to what Tony did...the compromise for her lot in life was to sweep it under the carpet and take the benefits of what she could.

AJ=Prat; he was shaped to be the new Tony...the panic attacks, the self loathing & doubt that Tony experienced were again playing back through AJ's life...instead of the domineering mother that Tony had, AJ ends up with a domineering father. The only glimmer of hope from the last 6 seasons came for AJ in the last few episodes where he started to head towards where he wanted to go.

As for what the viewers tuned in for...well I think you are selling the audience short on that and you only need look on BF to see the countless entries over the past decade about who did what...I think what hooked most in was in the first season and the demise of Pussy...for me it was game on 'biatches'...if they were prepared to do that to their friend told me that THIS show was different to most things we had seen in the shit that was dished up on 90's American TV, and the point was that with every episode there was a meaning there besides the boobs, violence or whatever the voyuers tuned in to see. That's what made it such a great show.

 

[XFactor1979]

i always preferred six feet under more of the hbo series, and six feet under operated on a more curtailed budget compared to the sopranos.

mind you, the sopranos was still a pretty full on series.

and yes, carmella was one of the more unlikeable characters in the series, however this show revolved around unlikeable self-centred/ self-involved characters. I did not like the sopranos on first viewing because the characters were unlikeable, up until the sopranos i wasted too much time watching Friends, and 20th Century Fox series when all characters were portrayed to be likeable

anyway mad men is currently the show which works on that principal of having unlikeable characters. and it works! i despise all the characters on that show!

 

[bunsen burner]

My recollection was the many times she was aware of the goings on...conversations with the Creepy Minister..Meadow...AJ...the fellow gangster women. I dont think she "tricked" herself into thinking other as to what Tony did...the compromise for her lot in life was to sweep it under the carpet and take the benefits of what she could.

Adriana? She reused to even consider that The Sopranos killed her. There were others too. She tricked herself into believing Tony's mob would not have done it. Even when it was staring her in the face.

 

[Gasometer]

Adriana? She reused to even consider that The Sopranos killed her. There were others too. She tricked herself into believing Tony's mob would not have done it. Even when it was staring her in the face.

Carmella I am talking about above.

Adriana knew she could be whacked...the whole time she was collaborating with the FBI she was shitn herself knowing damn well what would happen to her if her cover got blown. She knew what was a comin'....!

 

[XFactor1979]

the bottom line on tony soprano:

he can appear to be the world's funniest guy for one moment, a big fat teddy bear

and then the next second perhaps just a few seconds afterwards he is a horrible monster, sometimes finishing the same conversation

whatever it is; hes only human

 

[hirdy_is_champ]

This is a bit off topic, from the discussion you people are having but Denise Borino-Quinn ( Johnny Mac's wife) died last week. She was 46. Apparently she wasn't even an actor and got the part when she went a long with a friend who was auditioning.

 

[bunsen burner]

Carmella I am talking about above.

Adriana knew she could be whacked...the whole time she was collaborating with the FBI she was shitn herself knowing damn well what would happen to her if her cover got blown. She knew what was a comin'....!

I'm talking about Carmella re Adriana's death. Remember Adriana's Mum approached carmella at the fair and said that Adriana had been whacked and carmella didn't even stop to consider it might be true.

 

[vapid1]

This is a bit off topic, from the discussion you people are having but Denise Borino-Quinn ( Johnny Mac's wife) died last week. She was 46. Apparently she wasn't even an actor and got the part when she went a long with a friend who was auditioning.

aww

and its johnny sac btw .. short for john sacramoni

 

[Sir G]

Love this show still luv watching the way Phil Leotardo dies, and the part in the last season where one of Phil's goons pays out on Meadow then Tony gets payback in that little restrauant where he stomps on that guy head and teeth fly everywhere.
Are they ever going to make a sequel type movie?

 

[Gasometer]

This is a bit off topic, from the discussion you people are having but Denise Borino-Quinn ( Johnny Mac's wife) died last week. She was 46. Apparently she wasn't even an actor and got the part when she went a long with a friend who was auditioning.

John Sac loved that woman...the scene of her in the basement piggin out on the candy and he finds her is one of the most subtle touching moments in the whole series.

Ralph's joke about her caused so much grief that it rippled all the way through the series to the end & was the constant source of angst b/w Sacks and T.

..too young...and I am 42...shudder!