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Aishole said:
This is an extremely easy call to make with hindsight.

Flash back to reality... its the 2018 Off season, and Langdon is coming off a tantalising finals Series (and full season while we’re at it) where you could make a case he was in the best handful of players involved in the finals league wide. Had we of won the GF, he wouldn’t have been out of place with a Norm Smith around his neck.

He almost singlehandedly held together a makeshift defence with a revolving door of players around him (players of the calibre such as Madgen, Ox, a very green Murphy) and lead that defence to a Grand final. The poor decision at that moment in time would have been to let him walk.

Don’t be that guy. Don’t be a hindsight hero.
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Hindsight Hero.

That has to become a meme on big footy.
 

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legendstatus said:
Was happy to have him go to Sydney when in 2 minds, the hype around us keeping him was ridiculous - reasonable player and if he stays good on him, but we are just poor at in coming & out coming players with question marks!
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As someone that thinks part of the board overrate Langdon in response to the part that underrate him I definitely see your take as sitting on the underrating range of that scale.

Letting him walk would have been a poor list management call with Shaz and Dunn rehabbing knees, Howe pushing 30, Moore’s season crushed by hamstring issues, Roughead recruited as ruck depth and Murphy with 2 games under his belt. Moving forward things are murkier, but at the time we had to invest in re-signing him.
 
Chrispiesssss said:
everything okay or...?
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Was on the ground for a while. Medicos checked his legs. He sat up then stood up and tried to run. Looked like some pain. He then went and sat on a chair near the doors. Went inside not long later. Hopefully he is okay. 🤞


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Generally not as worried when players go down in a big clash. Impact injuries can be bad, but more often than not it’s a corkie or winded. Way more concerning when a player goes down in a fairly innocuous incident imo.
 
Lime22 said:
That same poster on another site called Extreme Black and White which has a funny looking format has put up another training report and this is from today. This is flowery again but there is also lots of information. I am worried that Langdon has just disappeared.

The weather felt humid today under a powder blue sky that was slightly haze. There was a whiff of smoke borne on the easterly wind which has periodically blighted Melbourne’s skyline.

Players started gracing the arena just before half nine as the British would say. JDG was the first and most of the rest of the squad followed quickly, firstly donning their heart monitor/GPS gear and then grabbing a mate for some warm-up kick to kick practice.

Basically today’s session started with the preparatory exercises, a couple of stations which saw players rotating followed by an intense match simulation which occupied most of the arena, the edges being left to those in various stages of rehab. A little bit of running punctuated the match simulation.

The Irishman always gives them a protracted initial warm-up and they respond well to him. It was reported in the main media that our whole physical conditioning department had been under scrutiny, but that Kevin is liked by the players.

The activity stations consisted of one group involved in skill drills, another working on the mini-hurdles, while the last negotiated the hoops. Interestingly the players were instructed to use power and speed on the hurdles which is obviously strategically related to skills and areas of mobility targeted by the fitness and coaching staff. Often these are used for agility purposes, but today the hoops were there for them to work on their adeptness at being evasive. They were encouraged to move quickly. All the time these two activities were taking place, the trainers were providing specific instructions regarding how the guys should be moving. All the players who later were confined to rehab appeared to be involved in these.

The match simulation made for interesting viewing. The previous sessions players were dusting off the cobwebs and the skills were a tad ragged at times.
A black team was opposed to a white (original) but of course representing the polarity underlining our colours.
The highlight of the day could well have been the kicking of Bianco. He is willing in packs and was able to find the ball. It remains to be seen if he can at a higher level, but his passing is elite. On a number of occasions, he delivered a spear like precise pass which hit his teammate’s chest in the sweet spot. Playing in the white team he did not look out of place in the midfield. Jay Rantall was prominent at times, and appeared to be clean enough by hand but certainly not as slick by foot. We do know though that his tank is almost second to none. Bianco’s bullet-like passes earned the plaudits of his teammates.

Murphy playing for the black team was opposed to Checkers in the white and while he was willing he was found out a bit for strength. I’ve sometimes read where people think he’s being groomed for a key position spot but he would have to build up a bit. He does move well though and can read the play. Checkers’ kicking radar was a bit off at times. Interesting to note that Pendles played a bit up forward for the white team and at one stage he read the play well and kicked a goal off the back of pack.
Must admit to enjoying the mid-field battles. Adams, Sier and Wills were all up and about and this trio is looking healthy and ready to compete for positions as an inside-mid, though Tay would realistically be a first choice player. Sier is looking trim and moving well but Wills did really well. One gets the impression that his teammates respect him because when the ball is in his vicinity and he has to commit himself, they call for it and he obliges. A couple of times he put his body on the line and was smashed but rose unperturbed. His kicking was better than usual and he dobbed a goal to the applause of teammates. He also showed that capacity to break tackles in heavy traffic and lay them at regular intervals. Anyway he looks less irresolute with ball in hand.

Cox in white, was opposed to Roughead given the absence of Moore and took a few grabs and is also moving well. Roughie who copped a heavy knock in a pack later on had been defending well. He got up gingerly and was treated but has probably escaped with bruising or a cork.
Varcoe also left the track moving with restriction accompanied by a trainer and he might have been favouring a hammy.

Kelly has a great physique. He has filled out from last summer but will definitely get stronger up top with more pre-seasons under his belt. It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that will debut this year, but it may also depend on injuries to key position players.
Wilson looks like he still has some way to go to receive a nod to play seniors but he’s slotting in well and he appears to have scope for improvement. He certainly is willing and the enthusiasm among the youngster who make up our next tier and future generation appears to be contagious.

Throughout the match simulation, the players used strong voices and there was a lot of affirming gestures. The umpires (coaching staff) were providing guidance and occasional commentary.

Grundy was opposed to Lynch throughout and he looks strong and played with purpose, sometimes helping out in defence. Lynch looks to have built up and as we know his tank is excellent and he matched Brodie stride for stride in terms of following him around the arena. He also clunked a few marks.

WHE in the white colours chipped in nicely at times.

Daics was busy and it is hoped that he can take the next step. Good to see him moving well after some disruption to his initial preparation.

Grundy at times linked well with his mids best exemplified by one perfect palm to Ads Treloar who ran freely from the contest and kicked purposefully. We need to see more of this connection in the middle in 2020.
Elliott is looking fit and was lively during the practice, sometimes leading well and receiving the pass.
Howe defended well and punched really effectively.
Ruscoe fumbled a bit but also did some useful things and he is as keen as mustard.

In terms of rehab, Dunn did some intense sprinting before calling for a trainer who then worked on agility with him, using the aforementioned hoops.
To me he still looks like he’s carrying a bit of condition, though he may have always. He is certainly working hard.

JDG worked with Darcy Cameron and they ran hard for the session. They basically used one side of the arena and did repeat runs with some pauses in between to catch their breath. I heard a whisper that JDG may have a slight back niggle but he was moving pretty well and looks in good shape.

Phillips and Moore were a carbon copy of this pair. The latter seemed to be easing himself back into training after his illness (heard a trainer ask if he was feeling better).and he had emerged wearing a track-tip which he took a while to discard. Some of the players chatted to him in the warm-ups and put an arm around him. In any case he was moving extremely well so it is almost certainly not injury-related. Have heard that Phillips is said to have minor back concern too, but he ran pretty comfortably. Both duos donned an orange guernsey later in the session.

After the protracted running these players took a footy from the yellow bin and practised their kicking.
Stevo also did a lot of running, sometimes joining with Cameron and JDG.

Appleby cut a solitary figure also running relentlessly which must be a source of frustration to him given that he's almost certain to be consigned to the margins of the team.

The entrepreneur Beams, was unsighted as was to be expected and Langers and Broomhead did not appear to be anywhere either.
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Might be a good idea just to post the link next time. That way EBnW get people viewing their forum.
 
Apex36 said:
Generally not as worried when players go down in a big clash. Impact injuries can be bad, but more often than not it’s a corkie or winded. Way more concerning when a player goes down in a fairly innocuous incident imo.
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Yes, but Collingwood.
 
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Apex36 said:
Generally not as worried when players go down in a big clash. Impact injuries can be bad, but more often than not it’s a corkie or winded. Way more concerning when a player goes down in a fairly innocuous incident imo.
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Such as a frisbee incident, or an ill directed multi... :think: ;)
 
Daicos Torpedo said:
This is a good read

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Its a good read, not sure about the Treloar stuff near the end. He is a bad kick, his disposal efficiency might be similar to Gaff due to handballs. I haven't bothered to check if thats accurate but Treloar is certainly a poor kick.
 
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