The Unexpected trades

[maccas_no1]

No Rutten isnt a better player than Stevo as he hasnt proven himself yet but over his career I'd say he will be

It's just my opinion on what I have witnessed with my own eyes at the footy, Bode and Dogga both had good 2002, in 2003 both have gone down hill, yes I agree Ayres ****ed Bode up but he is just too inconstant for my liking, Dogga if given the RIGHT opportunities will be a better player in the long term than Bode

 

[maccas_no1]

But Dogga nor Bode should be relied on to kick goals thats why we have six forwards......................what cost Adelaide this year was poor forwardline delivery, that is the area we have to improve on, even the likes of Mcleod were delivering the ball poorly, there were countless occassions this season that MCleod should have gone for goal himself but he has tried to pass it off and the ball has been turned over AFC have got to improve in this area, we could have the best forwardline in the business but if we dont deliver it correctly it's a waste, this is where is comes back to the coach to get it right lets face it the AFC have two good ruckmen, we have a good backline and good forwardline , but if we have a **** game plan and the coach playing players where they dont usually play them it's a waste, thats why Ayres will NEVER take us to the flag

 

[Mong]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Bode is a better player than Doughty. If I had to trade one of those it definetly wouldn't be Bode.

Bode is clearly a better player than Doughty in my opinion. But that doesn't mean Doughty is more likely to be traded. To the contrary, Bode would have more trade value and interest from other clubs and would present a more worth while trade option, if we actually aree interested in gaining anything significant in return.

Having said that I hope we keep Bode. I think even though his value would be higher than Doughty, he probably isn't at the peak of his trade value and I would be surprised if we could get his true worth. I put Ladhams in the same boat. Very good players coming off inconsistent seasons.


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[maccas_no1]

The AFC seem to have an overload of these types of players we really need to sort out who is required and who isnt over the next couple of years or otherwise our midfeild will suffer

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by maccas_no1
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I would rate Dogga a better player than Bode..................Dogga is more consistant

I'd trade Bode before Dogga [/B]

perhaps that says more about you, than either player?

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by maccas_no1
You just said it Stiffy..........Better kick and Better Mark more solidly built

Sorry I rate Dogga higher than Bode

If Bode plays well he is great but he isnt on song he is useless, Dogga isnt that type of player he gets in and has a go every week

for chrissakes, you're talking about a player who can'tt get a game.

Bode was recruited because he has an ability to read the fall of the ball, and we have precious few players who can read the play upfield like he can. He's kicking needs work, but it's his instincts that are his strength.

Geez I worry about a couple of you.

 

[-WWJD-]

Originally posted by Crow-mosone
perhaps that says more about you, than either player?

Ouch.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Bode is currently a better player than Dogga (& worth more trade wise). I would not have a problem with trading both of them, as it will free up some room to play our next generation (ie. Reilly, Schuback & Co).

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by maccas_no1
No Rutten isnt a better player than Stevo as he hasnt proven himself yet but over his career I'd say he will be

It's just my opinion on what I have witnessed with my own eyes at the footy, Bode and Dogga both had good 2002, in 2003 both have gone down hill, yes I agree Ayres ****ed Bode up but he is just too inconstant for my liking, Dogga if given the RIGHT opportunities will be a better player in the long term than Bode

Can't agree with either of these comparisons.

IMO Rutten will never be half the player of Mark Stevens. Rutten moves with the speed of a ruptured duck.

Bode is twice the player that Doughty is, because he gets balls that Doughty never would - hard almost unwinnable hurting balls (footballs - not his )

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
Can't agree with either of these comparisons.

IMO Rutten will never be half the player of Mark Stevens. Rutten moves with the speed of a ruptured duck.

Bode is twice the player that Doughty is, because he gets balls that Doughty never would - hard almost unwinnable hurting balls (footballs - not his )

If we could somehow take Nathan Bock's agility and pace and install in in Rutten we would have one very good player.

I am glad someone agrees with me regarding Doughty/Bode debate. Doughty would dream of getting the number of hard ball gets in a career that Bode would get in a season.

I never really have much time for soft outside receivers.

Reilly is an outside player but he puts his body on the line and he goes in hard for the ball. Doughty on the other hand runs a mile

 

[macca23]

I still think there is a place for Doughty in AFL footy though Stiffy.

He has pace, good ball handling skills and is a good deliverer of the ball. A classic outside type wingman.

There's room for one of these in every team, but no more than that IMO. Reilly will be ours, as he has all the skills that Doughty has and more, and is a lot harder than Doughty.

That's why i think we should trade Doughty for everybody's benefit, as we would get something we could use, and he could be of value to the right team.

But Bode is by far the greater value to a team for the reasons I stated previously.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Bode is currently a better player than Dogga (& worth more trade wise). I would not have a problem with trading both of them, as it will free up some room to play our next generation (ie. Reilly, Schuback & Co).

Matty Bode didn't have the best of years in 03 but no way would i put Doughty above him in the "hold onto stakes"

Bodey lost a bit of self belief & the confidence of our coach for a good part of last year but with no Bicks for 04 we will need his in/under style of play more than ever,

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by noddy
Matty Bode didn't have the best of years in 03 but no way would i put Doughty above him in the "hold onto stakes"

Neither did I

I said Bodey would be more valuable than Dogga, but I would consider trading both if we got something decent for them.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Neither did I

I said Bodey would be more valuable than Dogga, but I would consider trading both if we got something decent for them.

oops, sorry about that Kane i got the wrong quote mentioned,

 

[maccas_no1]

So what are you suggesting with your comment crow-mosone????? You suggesting I dont watch footy enough????? You suggesting I cant have an opinion?????

All I stated was that I think Dogga is a better for the AFC than Bode Not to have my name shot down in flames

 

[Crow-mosone]

Originally posted by maccas_no1
So what are you suggesting with your comment crow-mosone????? You suggesting I dont watch footy enough????? You suggesting I cant have an opinion?????

All I stated was that I think Dogga is a better for the AFC than Bode Not to have my name shot down in flames

well which is it? is Bode twice the player that Dogga is, as you stated above, or is doughty rated higher in your estimation as you stated earlier still?

how can one be a better fit than another, they don't play the same position.

 

[kyza47]

as a bulldogs supporter - trust me u dont want the Eagle. he cost us an arm and a leg and what has he done? he played a few excellent games for us in the middle of the season but tappered off again. Adelaide has a great midfield and doesn't need an inconsistant player like him. What r the chances of Perrie or Bassett playing at the Dogs? Rumor has it Bassett wants to come over here... but i dunno wat we'd give 4 him.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by kyza47
as a bulldogs supporter - trust me u dont want the Eagle. he cost us an arm and a leg and what has he done? he played a few excellent games for us in the middle of the season but tappered off again. Adelaide has a great midfield and doesn't need an inconsistant player like him. What r the chances of Perrie or Bassett playing at the Dogs? Rumor has it Bassett wants to come over here... but i dunno wat we'd give 4 him.

Eagleton got 3 Brownlow votes against Port adelaide if I rememer correctly which was about Round 21

I would be happy with Eagleton for Doughty.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Jars458
Eagleton got 3 Brownlow votes against Port adelaide if I rememer correctly which was about Round 21

I would be happy with Eagleton for Doughty.

I wouldn't.

Happy to trade Dogga (& I think it it is best for his development that goes elsewhere), but I don't want the under-performing, inconsistent Eagleton.

 

[Thunderstruck]

How about......Ian Perrie for Tom Harley from Geelong. Im a fan of Perrie but im an even bigger fan of Harley. Very strong bloke who gives his all and will still improve. Geelong need a key forward we need a key defender. I doubt the cats would give him up tho.