Thompson as scapegoat

[RememberMe]

Unless you know Mark Thompson personally, which I am going to assume none of the people on this board do, how can you possibly continue to flame him in the manner you have been?

At the start of the season, you couldn't shout his praises loudly enough... Then as the season went to the dogs, you were asking for his blood.

The man was and always will be a top coach. I just cannot see how you 'professional posters' (not naming names) can label him as one dimensional... So he was unwilling to change his game plan? The gameplan was a winning one. Fitness and such meant that certain players did not fit into his game plan during some rough patches of the season? Should a coach change his plan to accomodate players fitness problems?

Anyway, I'm sure all you fools are gonna jump on here and say, "Remember round 3 against blablabla," or something along those lines, but Thompson is definately not as one dimensional as you assume. It's easy to criticise from the comfort of your computer chairs.

I'm tipping that this year, Thompson will answer his critics, and with the new top cats at the cattery this year, Geelong under Thompson will push hard for the Premiership that has been so long coming. Exciting times my friends. I say it's time to put 06 behind us and herald a new winning era at catland... Let's start by accepting the fact that Thompson is staying and stand behind him 100%. I am fairly certain that if Geelong don't win a flag, he will walk, so lets stick by him till the end!

 

[CF]

who let the Brownlow Stand members in here?

 

[Soupy]

Take a hike newbie Thommo-lover.

 

[burto]

From what I can see, Thompson seems to be the type of guy who will give young kids confidence and improve their development. People aren't questioning that.

I do like Thompson, but can he take us to a flag? That is what people are having a go at him for.

 

[Conan Troutman]

From what I heard, everyone Cook interviewed during the review said he was a very smart coach. Whether that is true or not is another thing though I guess.

 

[Larry Donahue]

Unless you know Mark Thompson personally, which I am going to assume none of the people on this board do, how can you possibly continue to flame him in the manner you have been?

At the start of the season, you couldn't shout his praises loudly enough... Then as the season went to the dogs, you were asking for his blood.

The man was and always will be a top coach. I just cannot see how you 'professional posters' (not naming names) can label him as one dimensional... So he was unwilling to change his game plan? The gameplan was a winning one. Fitness and such meant that certain players did not fit into his game plan during some rough patches of the season? Should a coach change his plan to accomodate players fitness problems?

Anyway, I'm sure all you fools are gonna jump on here and say, "Remember round 3 against blablabla," or something along those lines, but Thompson is definately not as one dimensional as you assume. It's easy to criticise from the comfort of your computer chairs.

I'm tipping that this year, Thompson will answer his critics, and with the new top cats at the cattery this year, Geelong under Thompson will push hard for the Premiership that has been so long coming. Exciting times my friends. I say it's time to put 06 behind us and herald a new winning era at catland... Let's start by accepting the fact that Thompson is staying and stand behind him 100%. I am fairly certain that if Geelong don't win a flag, he will walk, so lets stick by him till the end!

Good post. Unfortunately one of the most significant problems we face (though the whingers will obviously disagree) is the whingers themselves!
The determination, patience and persistence of the coach, President and CEO is something I do not take for granted. We are extremely fortunate to have these blokes dedicating themselves to the club we love to the extent that they do. And how they manage to do it in the face of ongoing complaints, whinging and negative feedback just astounds me.
Yes it's their job and they get paid very well etc. but put yourself in the shoes of someone that works at the club full time. What would you prefer - know-it-all supporters criticising everything you do? Or supporters that are behind you 100% at all times sharing the goal of working towards success for the club?
I expect a bit of abuse for this, but remember - that's the problem...

 

[catempire]

Is that you Bomber?

 

[Jack-Packenham]

Neil Craig
Rodney Eade
Terry Wallace

These guys are suppose to be GREAT coaches yet none of these guys have won a flag.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Unless you know Mark Thompson personally, which I am going to assume none of the people on this board do, how can you possibly continue to flame him in the manner you have been?

At the start of the season, you couldn't shout his praises loudly enough... Then as the season went to the dogs, you were asking for his blood.

The man was and always will be a top coach. I just cannot see how you 'professional posters' (not naming names) can label him as one dimensional... So he was unwilling to change his game plan? The gameplan was a winning one. Fitness and such meant that certain players did not fit into his game plan during some rough patches of the season? Should a coach change his plan to accomodate players fitness problems?

Anyway, I'm sure all you fools are gonna jump on here and say, "Remember round 3 against blablabla," or something along those lines, but Thompson is definately not as one dimensional as you assume. It's easy to criticise from the comfort of your computer chairs.

I'm tipping that this year, Thompson will answer his critics, and with the new top cats at the cattery this year, Geelong under Thompson will push hard for the Premiership that has been so long coming. Exciting times my friends. I say it's time to put 06 behind us and herald a new winning era at catland... Let's start by accepting the fact that Thompson is staying and stand behind him 100%. I am fairly certain that if Geelong don't win a flag, he will walk, so lets stick by him till the end!

Get used to it - plenty of whingers on this site.

 

[Mooney_d'King]

Unless you know Mark Thompson personally, which I am going to assume none of the people on this board do, how can you possibly continue to flame him in the manner you have been?

At the start of the season, you couldn't shout his praises loudly enough... Then as the season went to the dogs, you were asking for his blood.

The man was and always will be a top coach. I just cannot see how you 'professional posters' (not naming names) can label him as one dimensional... So he was unwilling to change his game plan? The gameplan was a winning one. Fitness and such meant that certain players did not fit into his game plan during some rough patches of the season? Should a coach change his plan to accomodate players fitness problems?

Anyway, I'm sure all you fools are gonna jump on here and say, "Remember round 3 against blablabla," or something along those lines, but Thompson is definately not as one dimensional as you assume. It's easy to criticise from the comfort of your computer chairs.

I'm tipping that this year, Thompson will answer his critics, and with the new top cats at the cattery this year, Geelong under Thompson will push hard for the Premiership that has been so long coming. Exciting times my friends. I say it's time to put 06 behind us and herald a new winning era at catland... Let's start by accepting the fact that Thompson is staying and stand behind him 100%. I am fairly certain that if Geelong don't win a flag, he will walk, so lets stick by him till the end!

Good post, keep it up, we need the balance!

 

[Belly]

Unless you know Mark Thompson personally, which I am going to assume none of the people on this board do, how can you possibly continue to flame him in the manner you have been?

At the start of the season, you couldn't shout his praises loudly enough... Then as the season went to the dogs, you were asking for his blood.

The man was and always will be a top coach. I just cannot see how you 'professional posters' (not naming names) can label him as one dimensional... So he was unwilling to change his game plan? The gameplan was a winning one. Fitness and such meant that certain players did not fit into his game plan during some rough patches of the season? Should a coach change his plan to accomodate players fitness problems?

Anyway, I'm sure all you fools are gonna jump on here and say, "Remember round 3 against blablabla," or something along those lines, but Thompson is definately not as one dimensional as you assume. It's easy to criticise from the comfort of your computer chairs.

I'm tipping that this year, Thompson will answer his critics, and with the new top cats at the cattery this year, Geelong under Thompson will push hard for the Premiership that has been so long coming. Exciting times my friends. I say it's time to put 06 behind us and herald a new winning era at catland... Let's start by accepting the fact that Thompson is staying and stand behind him 100%. I am fairly certain that if Geelong don't win a flag, he will walk, so lets stick by him till the end!

Just on that question, I say yes.

What is the point of having a game plan the players can't execute, this gives us absolutely no chance of winning.

Thompson needs to develop a game plan around the strengths and weaknesses of his players, or get his players in a position throughout the season and pre-season so they can fit into his game plan. He did neither last year, I hope he can do it this year.

 

[WE Are Geelong]

Thompson was asked to quit and said no.

Geelong werent prepared to pay out his contract. This is the relevance of Costa's remarks...."the business people on the board are more patient"...meaning...we arent going to go ruin the bottom line expenditure of the club when all you have to do is wait 12 months...

So when ppl talk about others being 'whingers' Re Bomber....its irrelevant really...

Having said that... and yes I wanted Bomber out also....I am fully behind the 2007 season and hope we do well and would love to win a flag ...so good luck Bomber and everyone else down there, I hope it's going to be a big season.

Cook is trying to utilise Bombers' positive attributes and get the most out of him for this last 12 months....hope it works, but doubt it will go so well it saves him for another contract extension.

I feel Cook is the one we should be opening a thread about...he is doing an enormous job down there and getting Sando back is just further evidence of just how well he is doing in assembling a support staff around Bomber that might actually get us going places for next season.

 

[Mooney_d'King]

Thompson was asked to quit and said no.

How do you know? Telling porkies again?

 

[WE Are Geelong]

I know. If you know something....you know it. Don't you? If you dont like the fact YOU dont know or anyone else on here....tough s***. get used to it. Its factual.

I think it's old news anyway....or it is for me.

 

[WE Are Geelong]

I will ask you a question. Would you rather I said nothing?

At any rate, it makes no difference Bomber is staying and good luck to him....I wish him well.

When they start training, that's all that matters to me now, getting them fit and firing for next season. I have moved on....have you?

 

[catempire]

Thompson was asked to quit and said no.

While this is the first I've heard of it, it wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

It's irrelevant now though really.

 

[nananana catman]

who let the Brownlow Stand members in here?

Dont look at me, I sit there and cant stand them.

 

[Mooney_d'King]

I will ask you a question. Would you rather I said nothing?

At any rate, it makes no difference Bomber is staying and good luck to him....I wish him well.

It's fine that you say it, and you're right in one respect - I don't know and have no way of knowing. It's the first time I've heard it mentioned on the board, which surprises me and makes me think it's speculation rather than fact. You should expect me to be sceptical. Either way, exactly - he's staying and best of luck to us all as a result!

 

[WE Are Geelong]

It's fine that you say it, and you're right in one respect - I don't know and have no way of knowing. It's the first time I've heard it mentioned on the board, which surprises me and makes me think it's speculation rather than fact. You should expect me to be sceptical. Either way, exactly - he's staying and best of luck to us all as a result!

When it became obvious Bomber was staying, there was no point saying it earlier....how does it help the club? Saying it now makes ppl dubious....good...lets move on because getting Sando back could really be a coup for next season as I think the issue of team spirit and unity with Harley as captain has really been addressed and we know how well they go when they play like a team....

I think we can go very well for 2007.

 

[someday-somehow]

When it became obvious Bomber was staying, there was no point saying it earlier....how does it help the club? Saying it now makes ppl dubious....good...lets move on because getting Sando back could really be a coup for next season as I think the issue of team spirit and unity with Harley as captain has really been addressed and we know how well they go when they play like a team....

I think we can go very well for 2007.

I am not so optimistic, good teams have their game plans drilled into them and they execute that based on how well they are trained and their skills. Geelong's game plan last year was kick long and high into the forward line for Ottens, it didn't work (very well). So that means a new game plan especially if you are introducing a new forward structure, can they get that in place in one pre-season? I am just looking for some improvement and a committed effort from all the players.

 

[DBAH0]

Talk to me about Thompson's nous as a Tactical Genius here.

 

[Partridge]

I am not so optimistic, good teams have their game plans drilled into them and they execute that based on how well they are trained and their skills. Geelong's game plan last year was kick long and high into the forward line for Ottens, it didn't work (very well). So that means a new game plan especially if you are introducing a new forward structure, can they get that in place in one pre-season? I am just looking for some improvement and a committed effort from all the players.

Remember also that during preseason all reports said the main drill was taking the ball from the centre and passing it quickly and directly to the forwards. This was mentioned more than a few times by posters who were actually watching preseason training. Come the season proper and this went right out the window. The game plan became chip the ball around the middle 20 times (5 to Ling backwards), then bomb long to Ottens v 3 defenders. Our tactical genius Thompson then would wonder why it didn't work. Not to mention getting slammed by Collingwood and Adelaide and responding with a shrug of the shoulders.

 

[Mr Sensitive]

i'd hardly call Thompson a scapegoat. This season the players' disposal has degenerated, our fitness has been deplorable and our gameplan second rate.
Who is responsible for all these deficiencies? The coach.

Don't pontificate that the posters on this board are out to get to Thompson just for the sake of it.

Sure this board has its whingers, heck i've given my share of snide remarks, but the fact is that this year, we had a good list that underperformed drastically and the buck ultimately stops with the coach.
In such a case we have every right to give the coach what-for, especially when so many mistakes were made by the club.
That said, I'm behind bomber for next year, since the club has decided to stick with him, but god knows I'm nowhere near as optimistic as you are mate.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

i'd hardly call Thompson a scapegoat. This season the players' disposal has degenerated, our fitness has been deplorable and our gameplan second rate.
Who is responsible for all these deficiencies? The coach.

Don't pontificate that the posters on this board are out to get to Thompson just for the sake of it.

Sure this board has its whingers, heck i've given my share of snide remarks, but the fact is that this year, we had a good list that underperformed drastically and the buck ultimately stops with the coach.
In such a case we have every right to give the coach what-for, especially when so many mistakes were made by the club.
That said, I'm behind bomber for next year, since the club has decided to stick with him, but god knows I'm nowhere near as optimistic as you are mate.

The buck may very well sit with the coach - but if we have another year like last in 2007 and Thompson is given his marching orders, I hope there are some very guilty footballers at Geelong. The players are very much a problem in this whole debacle (2006).

 

[DanA]

I am pretty sure everyone here is going to have a membership in 07. When I go to the footy I cheer for the Cats (slag the opposition a bit) and genrally support the club. I was even saying Geelong will make the finals up until the loss to the Kangaroos.

Who gives a sh1t if you have a whinge on a message board. However it is an entirely different thing to create and sign petitions and all that other rot that some of the supports we doing.