Tim Paine

[Ducky Tie]

Paine is not only the chosen one because he is the far superior keeper to Wade, it's also because he is viewed as the next test skipper.

I like Wade, but despite protestations above - he remains an average keeper who is a very good aggressive batsman. Sounds pretty familiar to the bloke we already have in the Test XI. Paine is probably the best keeper behind Hartley, and is an excellent batsman as well, who does have the ability to bat up the order - though unlikely he would at test level.

Have you seen Wade's first class strike rate? He puts a high price on his wicket so is really very different to our current keeper.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Have you seen Wade's first class strike rate? He puts a high price on his wicket so is really very different to our current keeper.

He bats to how the game dictates he should bat, unlike Haddin he doesn't have a single digit IQ.
Dumbest cricketer of all time is our fearless VC

 

[Thommo 42]

Have you seen Wade's first class strike rate? He puts a high price on his wicket so is really very different to our current keeper.

Have you seen Haddin's test strike rate?

Wade is a slasher, no doubt about it - just like Haddin.

To suggest Haddin doesn't put a high price on his wicket is ludicrous. So he has been out playing aggressive shots in tight situations, so what?

He has also turned the tide playing aggressive strokes in tight situations too. Look at Adam Gilchrist in 2005 Ashes, out the same way every ****ing test match - often coming in under pressure and trying to smack Freddie behind point and getting out. Are you going to tell me he didn't put a high price on his wicket in that series?

Sometimes you get out playing your natural game, it happens. Haddin's match winning half century in the 2nd test in SA only a few weeks back was full of explansive and lofted drives and he was a hero. His century at the Gabba in the Ashes last year was also a great counter attacking innings with expansive lofted drives over cover.

People criticise him when he aims an expansive drive at the swinging ball and gets out, when all of the top order of failed before him and then the next week priase him for a great counter attacking innings playing the same shots.

It's a very fine line between copping it from the armchair critics and getting the pat on the back.

 

[Simple Jack]

People criticise him when he aims an expansive drive at the swinging ball and gets out, when all of the top order of failed before him and then the next week priase him for a great counter attacking innings playing the same shots.

That's the whole point.

Our top order is failing like hell playing the swinging ball nicking it to the slips just out of inability to deal with it.

Haddin isn't having the same trouble, he plays straight and has one of the best batting techniques in the team and if he had the grit and application that Garry Lyon shows, he would be one of our best batsman.

But no, not our Bad, he gets out lofting a shot to cover, or getting a top edge dancing down the pitch playing a horizontal swipe.

 

[Sealz]

Shit news! Really feel for Painey. Another tick in the box for Cricket Austalia
Pretty sure this is the same injury Paine sustained in the hit and giggle All Stars 20/20 last year. Why would they play their back up keeper, a bloke coming off a good series in India in a game like that, two days before the first ashes test?
Unfortunately the decision could have long term consequences for this guys career.

 

[Simple Jack]

Shit news! Really feel for Painey. Another tick in the box for Cricket Austalia
Pretty sure this is the same injury Paine sustained in the hit and giggle All Stars 20/20 last year. Why would they play their back up keeper, a bloke coming off a good series in India in a game like that, two days before the first ashes test?
Unfortunately the decision could have long term consequences for this guys career.

A hit and giggle, hit and giggle match. May aswell have been wearing clown costumes.

I think it would have happened either way eventually. You don't have so many problems just because it was an unlucky break.

IIRC he had finger problems before that game as well.

Agree it's a shame, he was probably going to get Bads spot sometime last summer or at least for the Sri Lanka tour but as soon as he told us "I think it's broken guys" that was pretty much the end. Bummer

 

[Bradesmaen]

No, he didn't. The problem stemmed from coming back to training and injuring it again, so much so now that it won't heal properly even using the plates that were on there. Just another one of the poorly managed players by CA.

 

[footyfan1978]

Paine is not only the chosen one because he is the far superior keeper to Wade, it's also because he is viewed as the next test skipper.

I like Wade, but despite protestations above - he remains an average keeper who is a very good aggressive batsman. Sounds pretty familiar to the bloke we already have in the Test XI. Paine is probably the best keeper behind Hartley, and is an excellent batsman as well, who does have the ability to bat up the order - though unlikely he would at test level.

Incredible it took 6 years after for the Test captaincy to come through. 15 months ago he just about retiring, now he is the guy we needed most at a worst time in over three decades. Weird how it all played out but good to see finally his potential realised.

 

[Demosthenes]

I think we would have seen a lot more from Paine's batting without so much time off.

One of the reasons he was preferred to Hartley back in 2011 is because he was seen as a genuine batsman, rather than a dependable scorer of 30s. How times change.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think we would have seen a lot more from Paine's batting without so much time off.

One of the reasons he was preferred to Hartley back in 2011 is because he was seen as a genuine batsman, rather than a dependable scorer of 30s. How times change.

To be fair Paine's batting weirdly at test level has been very crucial. He's probably averaging 35+ since his recall. His innings in the last test was crucial in both innings'.

Captaincy has surprised me how good it is.

 

[The Swans Blog]

Sometimes you don't need to average more than 35 to make an impact, especially if you're actually thereabouts every innings, unlike 1-in-14 Marsh.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sometimes you don't need to average more than 35 to make an impact, especially if you're actually thereabouts every innings, unlike 1-in-14 Marsh.

I'd rather someone getting 20-30 odd every innings (with the odd one 50+) rather than someone getting 80+, then 5 scores under 10, repeat.

 

[BobbyMorri]

Its not so much the amount of runs he gets, but how many balls he has faced. Last innings, it was 100 plus balls.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Its not so much the amount of runs he gets, but how many balls he has faced. Last innings, it was 100 plus balls.

Yep and that first session whilst slow was the game changer

 

[Gak Attack]

To be fair Paine's batting weirdly at test level has been very crucial. He's probably averaging 35+ since his recall. His innings in the last test was crucial in both innings'.

Captaincy has surprised me how good it is.

Heard on the radio he has the second highest average for a Australian keeper behind only Gilly. Would be nice to see him get a really big score but seems to have hung around when needed which is all you can ask if you’re a top 6 guy batting with him.

Thought it was telling given how many keepers Lyon has bowled with that he said he thinks Paine is the best glovesman in the world.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Heard on the radio he has the second highest average for a Australian keeper behind only Gilly. Would be nice to see him get a really big score but seems to have hung around when needed which is all you can ask if you’re a top 6 guy batting with him.

Thought it was telling given how many keepers Lyon has bowled with that he said he thinks Paine is the best glovesman in the world.

That doesn’t surprise me he’s averaged close to 40 from memory since his recall. It would be good for him to make a ton maybe against Sri Lanka he may get an opportunity.

Well to go from Wade to Paine no wonder Lyon is happy! Doesn’t have a catch or two a test going down