Tippett over the edge

[tribey]

Yeah good news I'd say, as bad as he has been on his day he can still be good. He also offers them structure so it'll be interesting how they move the ball into their forward line. Lobbe could be a bit of a roughie for the medal

Sorry to labour the point, but Tippett is mediocre in the pure sense of the word.

He's 24, is a shocking kick for goal and he gets his hands on it embarrassingly few times (especially avg marks) for a player of his bloated reputation and wage.

What's more, he returns this dearth of output while monopolising Adelaide's forward target entries - I think it was 2-3 weeks ago the ChampData stat was publicised where they go to him 70% of the time? Either way, it's a lot.

If anything, he's a poor man's David Hale.

Any galoot that size should be able to pluck a few here and there when it's repeatedly dropped on his head. And even then, he more often doesn't.

A Walker-centric forward line is immeasurably more dangerous.

 

[Powerade 08]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Sorry to labour the point, but Tippett is mediocre in the pure sense of the word.

He's 24, is a shocking kick for goal and he gets his hands on it embarrassingly few times (especially avg marks) for a player of his bloated reputation and wage.

He is rubbish but he could easily kick three or four on Chaplin.

Bigger flat track bully than Patty D.

 

[BACCS]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Confirmed (via twitter) on the crows board. Not a biggy really, tippett has done bugger all for ages, they will probably go better without him, Will be interesting if they have to play 2 rucks now cos I don't know who would back up jacobs if maric or moran don't come in.

Actually, Tippett is in our top 5 most important and best players, he is a huge loss for us. Always takes the best defenders, and always gives a contest for us. He can't help the shit delivery that he has been getting nearly all year, causing him to be 3 or 4 on 1 in a marking contest (which all of you on here seem to be ignoring). Is also our leading goalkicker again this year, and a great contested mark.

However, in saying that, it'll be nice to see how we function without him there, as we go to him far too often.

 

[BACCS]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

They rate him and always have. Back on '07 their board had "why didn't we grab this guy?" posts all over it.

I certainly rate him (and so do all knowledgeable Adelaide supporters), despite the shit we give him on the Bay.

 

[tribey]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Actually, Tippett is in our top 5 most important and best players, he is a huge loss for us.

More indicative of your overall talent and list management than Tippett's outright ability.

Jay Schulz is super-important for us, capable of destructive games and is a magnificent contested clunk, still not much chop in the wider scheme of things.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Actually, Tippett is in our top 5 most important and best players, he is a huge loss for us. Always takes the best defenders, and always gives a contest for us. He can't help the shit delivery that he has been getting nearly all year, causing him to be 3 or 4 on 1 in a marking contest (which all of you on here seem to be ignoring). Is also our leading goalkicker again this year, and a great contested mark.

However, in saying that, it'll be nice to see how we function without him there, as we go to him far too often.

I agree

Port would kill for a Kurt tippett

 

[FishingRick04]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

I agree

Port would kill for a Kurt tippett

Ya think, he would replace which forward in our line up?
Both our teams are garbage, combined we would still be bottom 4 lol

 

[tribey]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

I agree

Port would kill for a Kurt tippett

We already have. Vastly superior set shot too.

 

[tribey]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

I agree

Port would kill for a Kurt tippett

We already have. Vastly superior set shot too.

Jaymond Schulz last 27 games (Entire Port Adelaide career to date)

Disposals: 282 @ 10.44 dpg
Marks: 133 @ 4.92 mpg
Goals: 57.21

Kurtrude Tippett last 27 games (Adelaide career backdated from present to R11 2010)

Disposals: 281 @ 10.40 dpg
Marks: 117 @ 4.33 mpg
Goals: 54.41

OMG PLZ KURT COEM HERRE!!11

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

To be fair, Kurt has had a LOT more scoring shots.

In all honesty, out of curiosity... How would posters here feel if hypothetically, there was an offer of a straight trade... Tippett for Schulz?

 

[Jonts]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

To be fair, Kurt has had a LOT more scoring shots.

In all honesty, out of curiosity... How would posters here feel if hypothetically, there was an offer of a straight trade... Tippett for Schulz?

Take it

Tippet is taller- thus he is are second ruck swapping with Lobbe and he is younger

Gray Westhoff Moore
Hitchcock Tippett Butcher

if only....

 

[King_Tredrea]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

my lord. Tippett is a spud and one of the most overrated hacks to ever wear an AFL jumper.

 

[power09]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

To be fair, Kurt has had a LOT more scoring shots.

In all honesty, out of curiosity... How would posters here feel if hypothetically, there was an offer of a straight trade... Tippett for Schulz?

not for his contract!

 

[P.A.F.C]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Sorry to labour the point, but Tippett is mediocre in the pure sense of the word.

He's 24, is a shocking kick for goal and he gets his hands on it embarrassingly few times (especially avg marks) for a player of his bloated reputation and wage.

What's more, he returns this dearth of output while monopolising Adelaide's forward target entries - I think it was 2-3 weeks ago the ChampData stat was publicised where they go to him 70% of the time? Either way, it's a lot.

If anything, he's a poor man's David Hale.

Any galoot that size should be able to pluck a few here and there when it's repeatedly dropped on his head. And even then, he more often doesn't.

A Walker-centric forward line is immeasurably more dangerous.

Couldn't disagree more, Tribey.

Tippett is a fantastic talent. Watch how much attention opposition clubs give him. Regularly gets double teamed and the delivery to him at times is pathetic. One of the best marks in the AFL though and a nightmare to match up on. Well over 200cm and still very mobile. Walker on the other hand, is too small to be a legitimate key forward at AFL level. I see him as more a third tall or a half forward flanker. Much easier to shut down and not the guy you build a forward line around, unlike Tippett.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Tippett Would be a much more imposing chf than westhoff. Not the best shot but is strong and is good overhead. He is down on form but he can definitely play

 

[240volt]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Schulz has been good value and always gives it a fair go, more than i can say for some.
He would be one of a handful i would keep at the club

 

[King_Tredrea]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

in all honesty anyone that believes that Spud isn't completely lost on the footy field obviously doesn't watch much footy. he may be able to pop up every now and then but a 200cm 100kg bloke is gonna do that occasionly. doesn't change the fact that he IS NOT A FOOTBALLER. Walker, on the other hand.....

 

[King_Tredrea]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Tippett Would be a much more imposing chf than westhoff. Not the best shot but is strong and is good overhead. He is down on form but he can definitely play

no. justins problem is he has been deployed for the most part as a 'genuine' key forward when everyone knows he is a third forward type player, a role that he would absolutely flourish in roaming around 50 if we had 2 genuine key post forwards in our side. as a result of not having this he plays a role he isnt suited to and is then foolishly compared to the AFL's legitimate power forwards. justin would be a valuable asset to any side and is a naturally gifted footballer. kurt tippett is not a footballer. he has an AFL contract and plays week in week out for the adelaide crows, this is inarguable. but, he is not actually a footballer. at all.

 

[PortBrillance]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Tippett is one of the biggest spuds in the AFL. Do not rate him at all, he is the Nick Gill of the current day crows. I wish Walker was out instead of Tippett. It doesn't matter one bit if tippett is out. Walker is a much better talent

 

[Schulzenfest]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Lol Tippett. The Crows forward line looks 5 times better without that spud attracting 70% of their forward entries to average 1.6 goals a game. When he's out they spread out their forward entries and infinitely more talented guys like Walker and Dangerfield tear oppositions apart. Walker's had one game without Tippett in the side and kicked 4 goals in that game, while the rest of the team had their only 100+ score (other than against the GC) all year against a team which is currently firmly entrenched in the top 4. Not only is this not an advantage for us, I'd go far enough to say that it's actually a big disadvantage. Anyone who rates Tippett clearly is too busy reading the Crapvertiser to watch footy.

 

[power09]

yeah im much less confident now

 

[BACCS]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Couldn't disagree more, Tribey.

Tippett is a fantastic talent. Watch how much attention opposition clubs give him. Regularly gets double teamed and the delivery to him at times is pathetic. One of the best marks in the AFL though and a nightmare to match up on. Well over 200cm and still very mobile. Walker on the other hand, is too small to be a legitimate key forward at AFL level. I see him as more a third tall or a half forward flanker. Much easier to shut down and not the guy you build a forward line around, unlike Tippett.

At least there are some sensible supporters on this board.

All of the Port supporters bagging Tippett, do you actually watch our games closely or just make up opinions from stats? Buddy would struggle in our team atm with the shocking quality of delivery coming down there.

 

[tribey]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

Couldn't disagree more, Tribey.

Tippett is a fantastic talent. Watch how much attention opposition clubs give him. Regularly gets double teamed and the delivery to him at times is pathetic. One of the best marks in the AFL though and a nightmare to match up on. Well over 200cm and still very mobile.

And yet for all Tippett's hype and tantalising attributes he still returns roughly Jay Schulz, that ubermaligned enigma whom Richmond deemed worth Mitch Farmer.

Reminds me of when the Stan Lazaridis to Liverpool rumours were gathering weight a decade or so ago, and an old English journo responded to Bruce McAvaney's gushing platitudes with "if you are so good, why do you do so little?"

Walker on the other hand, is too small to be a legitimate key forward at AFL level. I see him as more a third tall or a half forward flanker. Much easier to shut down and not the guy you build a forward line around, unlike Tippett.

Walker's size may ultimately hinder him as he naturally loses his athleticism, but as Gopes just alluded to, Walker as the focal point in a far more rounded forward line is superior to the 'Tippett A, B and C' structure currently handbraking their once multipronged threat.

 

[tribey]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

At least there are some sensible supporters on this board.

All of the Port supporters bagging Tippett, do you actually watch our games closely or just make up opinions from stats? Buddy would struggle in our team atm with the shocking quality of delivery coming down there.

The quality of delivery seemed fine when he was making position and spilling marks galore over the past few weeks.

What does he need, a butler?

If you think he's not a problem in himself I hope your football department agrees with you.

 

[P.A.F.C]

Re: Teams Port Adelaide v Crows

And yet for all Tippett's hype and tantalising attributes he still returns roughly Jay Schulz, that ubermaligned enigma whom Richmond deemed worth Mitch Farmer.

Reminds me of when the Stan Lazaridis to Liverpool rumours were gathering weight a decade or so ago, and an old English journo responded to Bruce McAvaney's gushing platitudes with "if you are so good, why do you do so little?"



Walker's size may ultimately hinder him as he naturally loses his athleticism, but as Gopes just alluded to, Walker as the focal point in a far more rounded forward line is superior to the 'Tippett A, B and C' structure currently handbraking their once multipronged threat.

Some people say Carlton's forward line is much better now without Fevola. Does that mean all the individuals in their forward line are more talented than Fev at his best? Richmond's forward setup at the moment is extremely Jack Riewoldt centric, and their forward line might work better without him, but does that mean there are better forwards in their team?

It's hard to look good as a forward when your team is a rabble and also decides to only pass to you. Prime example is the Crows vs. Geelong game this year. Tippett was left as the lone forward for large periods of the game, with 2-3 defenders around him.

He's still extremely talented and has kicked over 50 goals in a season, which Schulz has yet to do(Though very easily could, Jay is also a good talent). Crows forward line will be best when they have Walker and Dangerfield making hard leads, with Tippett the long target and Porplyzia and Jaensch doing the crumbing. Taking the most talented player in your team out of the side is not the solution, even if he is in part the problem.