Tippett's Gone - READ RULES BEFORE POSTING

[Realslimshady2]

the only news im keen and hoping for is,
GWS select tippo, tippo shattered

But he has traded his way "home", that is all that matters, right?

 

[SpeciousArgument]

the only news im keen and hoping for is,
GWS select tippo, tippo shattered

i like the idea of tippett shattered but i dont like the idea that all the kids they have there might look at him as a role model, id almost rather he go to sydney where the senior players there will see him for what he is and not kick to him.

 

[headache1]

i like the idea of tippett shattered but i dont like the idea that all the kids they have there might look at him as a role model, id almost rather he go to sydney where the senior players there will see him for what he is and not kick to him.

Whichever club he ends up at, I'm hoping he creates enough discontent to allow us to raid the shit out of them with what we'd have been paying Kurt. If that happens to be GWS and Jimmy Toumpas/Brodie Grundy, so be it.

 

[Stripple]

F it's correct my guess would be Reid signed off on the deal told trigg and he then said no three weeks later. Just a gentleman agreement.

Or at least that's what they are saying to try keep trigg in a job.

 

[Paladin]

I think this has been a massive beatup fueled by the media trying to one up each other. I suspect our main crime has been John Reid writing an email saying don't tell the afl about this. The third party payments were declared, it was a gentlemen's agreement to send him home at the conclusion of his contract. Without the email we have nothing to answer this would happen at every club every year. Which makes the paper trail so so dumb.

We will get fined that's all imo. The wait is the AFL double checking all our accounts and players accounts for any irregularities which takes time.

 

[Geoffa32]

I know it is only Rowie, but it is starting to sound like an error in procedure.

Still not a good thing but probably a fine.

 

[jt_mcleod]

will we lose picks still?

 

[1970crow]

I don't get this....

3 weeks after the agreement was put in place, Trigg said the club would no longer honour the deal. Fair enough - why do the deal inn the first place if 3 weeks latter if was off the table.

Then 24 months latter, I assume Stgeven Trigg tells the board of the deal or they somehow find find out about it and it then shifts to a 'gentleman agreement' as stated in the board meetings minutes.

Why would we need any gentleman agreement in place, if we were not going to honour any deal?

The time line of events doesn't add up and it sounds very fishy to me. Someone is trying to cover their arse.

but lets not suspend him until the investigation is over. better to just carry on as normal.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Paladin I totally agree

I have said all along the media have made assumptions based on a email however in reality the AFC may have administered all payments above board

I would not be surprised if the Media have over cooked this one...

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

but lets not suspend him until the investigation is over. better to just carry on as normal.

We live in a society where people are innocent until proven guilty

 

[Paladin]

Paladin I totally agree

I have said all along the media have made assumptions based on a email however in reality the AFC may have administered all payments above board

I would not be surprised if the Media have over cooked this one...

Although after hearing Noble on 5AA he seems to expect we will possibly lose draft picks which is very disappointing.

 

[Tex200]

Paladin I totally agree

I have said all along the media have made assumptions based on a email however in reality the AFC may have administered all payments above board

I would not be surprised if the Media have over cooked this one...

I've been in this camp since day 1 as well.

All we have ever had was a media report.

 

[fairfooty]

but lets not suspend him until the investigation is over. better to just carry on as normal.

Suspension is not always industrially appropriate. It depends on the circumstances. In this case the Board chose not to suspend as is their right - and on the little we know I suspect it was the right decision.

 

[SpeciousArgument]

http://memegenerator.net/Kurnt-Tippett

 

[1970crow]

Im guessing the timing is due to Caroline Wilson writing a story about "the clause" last year. If Triggy thought and had advised Blucher the deal was not on 3 weeks later, he probably didn't think he needed to tell the board. Then when Wilson raises the issue, he had to go to the board? This is just a guess on my part. The gentlemans agreement was the send him home to QLD aspect of the deal which Trigg said was no longer valid because he had chosen Sydney.

trigg can say what he wants. but the reality is that they put the deal in writing to kurts management. he may have had buyers remorse a couple of weeks later and he may have phoned velocity to tell them the side deal is off. but unless he actually went around and retrieved every copy of the written agreement what has he actually achieved. seriously, how effing stupid is this guy. does he seriously think that this will save his skin. it is further evidence to how incompetent he actually is. you can't spin this. he has now effectively admitted he knew he effed up and his solution was to make a phone call to cancel it. pour yourself a sav blanc out of the office fridge big fella and spend a few minutes contemplating another job well done.

 

[Tex200]

Suspension is not always industrially appropriate. It depends on the circumstances. In this case the Board chose not to suspend as is their right - and on the little we know I suspect it was the right decision.

Correct. Can you imagine if became generally accepted that office bearers were suspended based on media speculation? Country would be a basket case!

 

[mattymac]

If we come out of this with just a fine Ima break out da champagne

 

[fairfooty]

trigg can say what he wants. but the reality is that they put the deal in writing to kurts management. he may have had buyers remorse a couple of weeks later and he may have phoned velocity to tell them the side deal is off. but unless he actually went around and retrieved every copy of the written agreement what has he actually achieved. seriously, how effing stupid is this guy. does he seriously think that this will save his skin. it is further evidence to how incompetent he actually is. you can't spin this. he has now effectively admitted he knew he effed up and his solution was to make a phone call to cancel it. pour yourself a sav blanc out of the office fridge big fella and spend a few minutes contemplating another job well done.

OK enough. Although I understand your angst enough of this emotive vitriol. This is a civil industrial matter which will be decided on due process where all parties under investigation will be judged on the civil test of balance of probabilities (50% + 1). This is not a criminal case where the standard of reasonable doubt applies. So Trigg et al are innocent until the AFL brings down their findings and the Board decides on their action against their employee(s), if any.

So calm down. You may not like Trigg as seems obvious from your post, but regardless at present he deserves the benefit of the doubt - particularly since I doubt that you have one shred of evidence against him except that which has been reported in the media.

And no I'm not a blind Trigg supporter. But I am an absolute blind supporter of fair and reasonable process. For everyone.

Standing down...

 

[skoobydoo]

Rootchi says ......"The AFL is allowing the Crows to push teenage midfielder Brad Crouch.....as a traded player...."

This guy annoys me nomatter what he writes......pushing? PUSHING? Maybe its just me but the guy must spend hours with his choice of language to cast aspersions with every article he submits re the Crows. The description push is an emotive slant that intimates the Crows are doing something suspect with Crouch.
Yeah maybe it is just me and the whole Tippett business has worn me down............
I dont like the man (Rootchi) . He is a grand product of the Murdoch taint.

 

[1970crow]

Correct. Can you imagine if became generally accepted that office bearers were suspended based on media speculation? Country would be a basket case!

except that trigg has admitted to wrong-doing. both by having a side-deal to trade at the end of the contract and then by underwriting 3rd party agreements. he went to the board and offerred his resignation, if that is to be believed. the boards appropriate response is to decline that, as they did and suspend him on full pay until both the afl and afc have finished their investigations.

ffs, we're not talking about sacking/suspending based on an internet board or a rucci article. he has admitted to wrongdoing, there is an afl investigation and he offerred his resignation. it would be entirely appropriate for him to not be at the club over the next couple of weeks.

 

[fairfooty]

except that trigg has admitted to wrong-doing. both by having a side-deal to trade at the end of the contract and then by underwriting 3rd party agreements. he went to the board and offerred his resignation, if that is to be believed. the boards appropriate response is to decline that, as they did and suspend him on full pay until both the afl and afc have finished their investigations.

ffs, we're not talking about sacking/suspending based on an internet board or a rucci article. he has admitted to wrongdoing, there is an afl investigation and he offerred his resignation. it would be entirely appropriate for him to not be at the club over the next couple of weeks.

What don't you get about due process and the Boards right to decide their action if any? I too have refused resignations for apparently greater sins for the greater good and in the interests of fairness and process. He may still resign/be terminated AFTER a proper investigation. That means the whole episode is sound and not open to question from anyone's perspective. Until the findings are known the Board has decided he remains. End of story.

 

[Wood_Duck]

GWS have confirmed that if they can afford him they will pick him.

 

[BACCS]

Phew!

I guess someone in the media finally decided to listen to the Noble interview from 2 weeks ago and realised Crouch counted as a draft selection. Bloody idiots.

Edit: Just listened to Noble, counts as a traded player, whoops.

 

[BACCS]

GWS have confirmed that if they can afford him they will pick him.

Surely they wouldn't say something like this if they didn't think they could afford him? Of course they will have to review current contracts and all that, but it seems GWS are confident.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Surely they wouldn't say something like this if they didn't think they could afford him? Of course they will have to review current contracts and all that, but it seems GWS are confident.

Decided today at internal meeting. Still gathering facts.