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Bentleigh said:
Alot of talk about not being able to hit targets out of the backline.

Even mor reason Bowden needs to stay on a half back flank.
So True Bentleigh. Newman shows some promise in this area also.
 
Bentleigh said:
Alot of talk about not being able to hit targets out of the backline.

Even mor reason Bowden needs to stay on a half back flank.

The only problem with Bowden on HBF is that he has gone back to his handball, handball, handball bad habit. He runs at a bloke, draws the man, then gives off a hospital handball. He seemed to finally have that out of his system last year but he has gone back to running out of the backline carrying the ball in the ready-to-handball position.
 
They want to carry the ball more this year weaver and break lines. So blaming Bowden for following the team plan doesnt work for me. If the whole backline was running, we would be a far better side.

Ares, great post. Clearly someone who understands football. Your in a vast minority here.

Weaver said:
The only problem with Bowden on HBF is that he has gone back to his handball, handball, handball bad habit. He runs at a bloke, draws the man, then gives off a hospital handball. He seemed to finally have that out of his system last year but he has gone back to running out of the backline carrying the ball in the ready-to-handball position.
 
tigertime said:
They want to carry the ball more this year weaver and break lines. So blaming Bowden for following the team plan doesnt work for me. If the whole backline was running, we would be a far better side.


That's what Richo said the other night when he was on 'On the Couch', the guys were meant to run and carry, and only kick when they are past the centre.
 

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ARES said:
Tivers problem is ever since Cameron retired there hasnt been anyone else with the ability to hit targets from kick out so he has been filling that role. But then you cant have a player that kicks out run to h/f, wing and play in his rightful position, the game is too fast for that. He needs to stay in defence. Well Tivers is not a defender simple.

This argument would be a lot more convincing if Tivers was actually hitting targets. This year (I know its only 2 weeks old) he ahs not hit targets and often turns the ball over. Leon Cameron he aint.
 
He had 15 mins last game krak. In that time he beat his opponent to the ball on every occasion that I saw. He put his body on the line and got creamed. He featured in one goal in the last quarter.

As you say, give him a couple of weeks.

Krakustar said:
This argument would be a lot more convincing if Tivers was actually hitting targets. This year (I know its only 2 weeks old) he ahs not hit targets and often turns the ball over. Leon Cameron he aint.
 
I think Tivendale has had an armchair ride for years. Whilst spud was coaching (trying to coach) they always rotated 8-10 players in and out of the side. A lot of these players were younger guys pinch hitting at half forward or a pocket and only had small chances to prove themselves. Yet these changes didnt bring any result, and in my opinion the likes of tivendale, chaffey, Hall etc.

These blokes got game after game and kept doing the same stupid things week in wk out. If plough can pi$$ a few of them off and get these younger types backing their ability and skills they will start heading in the right direction.

BTW, Hyde is a hack, has no vision, average skills and wont win them finals. Just another battler who tries hard. WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO
 
Weaver said:
The only problem with Bowden on HBF is that he has gone back to his handball, handball, handball bad habit. He runs at a bloke, draws the man, then gives off a hospital handball. He seemed to finally have that out of his system last year but he has gone back to running out of the backline carrying the ball in the ready-to-handball position.

Its a slight problem.

He does however have a beuitful kick and hits alot of targets comming out of the backline.

Both Newman and Hartigan and even Jacko do look promising.

Junkie said:
BTW, Hyde is a hack, has no vision, average skills and wont win them finals. Just another battler who tries hard. WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

I dunno if your a ****** or trying to be funny but Hyde has been pretty solid for mine.
 
madtiger2005 said:
yeah, he's down on confidence. He always seems to run into trouble. He's not very good in crowded situations. He usually picks the ball up when it's obvious he will get tackled. He's very good as a receiver though. Give him a run for Coburg as well as Chaffey.


Chaffey - No.

Tivendale maybe. He just needs confidence and game time. I think he should be played on a HFF so he can kick some goals from 50 and deliver it very well to Richo and co.
 
I've been saying all along he should play on the left foward flank. Most times he would deliver rippers to the forwards or he would kick great long goals. He probably needs a run in coburg to bouce back like Bowden did last year.
 
madtiger2005 said:
I've been saying all along he should play on the left foward flank. Most times he would deliver rippers to the forwards or he would kick great long goals. He probably needs a run in coburg to bouce back like Bowden did last year.

Forward flankers in the modern era need to be able to be able to get their own ball.

Davis of Syney, Nathen Brown, Adam Yze, Luke Power etc.

Im doubtful Tiv is good enough. IT'd be better to blood a Gilmour, Meyer, Raines etc.
 
Hey Bentleigh,

Thats not how you argue your point mate. Junkie made some valid points, irrespective of what you think. If you disagree, state your view, but dont bag other richmond supporters (with the exception of johnf and oxx, both these fu*kers deserve what they get).

Hyde & Johnson have been very ordinary in the middle of the ground. We statistically have the worst clearances in the league. - Compelling Evidence.

Thats not to say both of those players cant play the role of receivers. But they certainly dont win their own ball enough and dispose of it well enough to play in the midfield.

Bentleigh said:
Its a slight problem.
I dunno if your a ****** or trying to be funny but Hyde has been pretty solid for mine.
 

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