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From reading everyone's posts the general consensus seems to be that the Top 4 will be Gibbs, Gumbleton, Hansen and Thorp, with Hawkins obviously going F/S.

Is there any chance of anyone slipping in? Or are these 4 shoe ins, like Judd, Ball and Hodge of 2001?
 
I think if anything changes that, it will be because of some large scale change to someone's value, such as an injury, or a super-impressive draft camp.
 

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We have not heard any club comment about any of the hopefuls yet. We won't know what they are thinking until they read the names out. I think you will find the concensus of the bigfooty draft board will be about 80 % correct on the top 5, 70 % correct on the top 10 and 50 % correct on the top 20.
 
philhawk said:
I remember this time last year the general "consensus" was

1. Murphy
2. Ellis
3. Hurn
4. Ryder

It's funny how things pan out eh?
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Actually, Clark was probably in there.

I'm not sure that Hurn was top 4 in the eyes of many club recruiters...
 
IMO the top five will be made up of Gibbs, Gumby, Hansen, Thorp and Sellar. They look better than everyone else and bar someone making a surprise slection or major injury to one of the five, they will make the top five.

Clark slipped down because of injury, and Ryder slipped down because teams below Essendon didn't want or need a ruckman, so they went for KPP/midfielders. I know that footydraft placed Hurn in the top five (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=shannon_hurn)
 
Richo83 said:
IMO the top five will be made up of Gibbs, Gumby, Hansen, Thorp and Sellar. They look better than everyone else and bar someone making a surprise slection or major injury to one of the five, they will make the top five.

Clark slipped down because of injury, and Ryder slipped down because teams below Essendon didn't want or need a ruckman, so they went for KPP/midfielders. I know that footydraft placed Hurn in the top five (http://www.footydraft.com/players.php?player=shannon_hurn)
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Clarks main reason for the slip was his attitude last year, even to the point one of his coaches slamming him for his aledged arogance.
Ryder I thought may have gone higher, the question I thought might have been about his versatility.
Hurn is a gun, I actually thought the Blues would select him. If Kennedy wasn't availible we probably would have.

This year the Draft Camp will alter the order of the top 4. If Sellar grows to genuine ruck proportions his stocks will climb and could change the landscape somewhat.
After the Championships I think most of us thought the top 4 would be made up of Gibbs, Gumbleton, Hansen, Thorp. Sellar was off the boil and this effected his rating a little.
 
BlueFeaver said:
Clarks main reason for the slip was his attitude last year, even to the point one of his coaches slamming him for his aledged arogance.
Ryder I thought may have gone higher, the question I thought might have been about his versatility.
Hurn is a gun, I actually thought the Blues would select him. If Kennedy wasn't availible we probably would have.

This year the Draft Camp will alter the order of the top 4. If Sellar grows to genuine ruck proportions his stocks will climb and could change the landscape somewhat.
After the Championships I think most of us thought the top 4 would be made up of Gibbs, Gumbleton, Hansen, Thorp. Sellar was off the boil and this effected his rating a little.
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Oh, didn't know about Clark's arrogance, strange.

I think the order of those five will change, but IMO those Gibbs/Gumby/Hansen/Thorp/Sellar will be the top five. The main chance of changing is if Brisbane have a pick in the top five and pick a midfielder (Jetta, Houli, Selwood) as their KPP stocks are pretty high, or a bottom team thinks for some reason that it needs to trade it's chance to get some of the best players in half a decade.
 
The Power could have pick 5 or 6 and they need a hard midfielder - therefore:

a. Joel Selwood - genuine courageous midfielder

b. Tom Hurley - a prolific ball winner and local SA talent.

c. Leroy Jetta - Power require pace in the midfield Jetta is the best available.
 

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grub29 said:
My top 4 would be Gibbs,Hansen,Gumbleton and Leuenberger in that order.You can also pencil in David Armitage to wherever Brisbane finishes.
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would Armitage be a first round selection?
 
Ysaye said:
Mojo31 suggested a late third round pick.
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yeh I would have thought 2nd-3rd round, but the way grub29 phrased that, it made it sound as though armitage would go to Brisbane with their 1st pick.
 
gandaal said:
Here's a general consensus for this draft.

Top 10 (in no particular order... even though it probably is):
Gibbs
Hansen
Gumbleton
Sellar
Leuenburger
Jetta
Selwood
Collard
Riewoldt
Proud

Anyone agree? disagree?
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Almost agree but I think Thorp will be in there - the others though are fine Gandaal.

Twelve players put in brackets for no particular reason:

[Bracket One - Top Four]
1.Gibbs (Tall Midfielder)
2.Hansen (Tall Defender)
3.Gumbleton (Tall Forward)
4.Thorp (Tall Utility)

[Bracket Two]
5. Selwood (Medium Midfielder)
6. Sellar (Tall Utility)

[Bracket Three]
7. Leuenburger (Ruckman)
8. Hislop (Medium Midfielder)
9. Proud (Small centreman)
10. Jetta (Small centreman)
11. Collard (Small half forward)
12. Riewoldt (Tall Utility)

Which order they fall in depends very much on the clubs and their recruiting strategies.
 
Ysaye said:
Almost agree but I think Thorp will be in there - the others though are fine Gandaal.

Twelve players put in brackets for no particular reason:

[Bracket One - Top Four]
1.Gibbs (Tall Midfielder)
2.Hansen (Tall Defender)
3.Gumbleton (Tall Forward)
4.Thorp (Tall Utility)

[Bracket Two]
5. Selwood (Medium Midfielder)
6. Sellar (Tall Utility)

[Bracket Three]
7. Leuenburger (Ruckman)
8. Hislop (Medium Midfielder)
9. Proud (Small centreman)
10. Jetta (Small centreman)
11. Collard (Small half forward)
12. Riewoldt (Tall Utility)

Which order they fall in depends very much on the clubs and their recruiting strategies.
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Yeah I completely forgot Thorp and added him later. A very good draft :)
 

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gandaal said:
Here's a general consensus for this draft.

Top 11 (in no particular order... even though it probably is):
Gibbs
Hansen
Gumbleton
Sellar
Leuenburger
Thorp
Jetta
Selwood
Collard
Riewoldt
Proud

Anyone agree? disagree?
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That seems to be BF consensus. Of course, who knows what the recruiting managers think. Every year there are a couple of bolters and a couple of unexpected sliders. Maybe someone like Everitt or Houli or Pettard or Collier could go much higher than anticipated? Hislop is one that seems to rated with varying degrees of enthusiasm too... I wouldn't be surprised if Jetta slid down the order a little.
 
philhawk said:
I'm referring to the 'experts' on BigFooty. ;)
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Don't bag it.

BigFooty got:

Deledio/Tambling/Griffen/Roughead/Franklin top 5 correct - 2004

Apart from Penderbury they got the top 7 or so right - 2005
 
malcolm said:
The Power could have pick 5 or 6 and they need a hard midfielder - therefore:

a. Joel Selwood - genuine courageous midfielder

b. Tom Hurley - a prolific ball winner and local SA talent.

c. Leroy Jetta - Power require pace in the midfield Jetta is the best available.
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I generally think the power are a decent KPP away from being a good side. White isn't going to be one, a hff maybe. With the Burgs, peacre, salopek among others I think port are ok for smaller player. With tredders being almost a lone gun upforward another talented tall could help. Either by being a gun forward or by freeing up Cornes from CHB
 
Richo83 said:
Ysaye, how tall would a midfielder be to classify as a tall midfielder, ditto medium and small?

I think Gandall is right on the money. However, 9-12 could always throw up something new.
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Tall:185cm or greater (Eg. Judd 189cm, Gibbs-189cm, Jarryd Morton 190cm)
Medium:Between 185cm and 180cm (Riccuito 183cm, Selwood 184cm, Hislop 185cm, Collard 181cm)
Small: Less than 180cm (Cousins 179cm, Jetta 177cm, Proud 179cm Moss 179cm)

Sorry also for labelling Collard as a small when he is about medium.
 
grub29 said:
My top 4 would be Gibbs,Hansen,Gumbleton and Leuenberger in that order.You can also pencil in David Armitage to wherever Brisbane finishes.
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I watched the NAB cup this year and IMO I think that David Armitage is right up there. :thumbsu:

He racked up heaps of quality possessions and rarely wasted them. Its unfortunate that 2nd division players don't get the recognition that they deserve. Sure the 1st Division is higly rated but there are a few players in the 2nd division worthy as those in the 1st division. And armitage is one of them.
 
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