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Lots of rumours going about for the Magic.

Contrary to what Otis Smith says the Magic have been in talks with Sacramento about Miller and Garcia.

Also in talks with Miami for Haslem and Seattle about Wilcox / Thomas.

Obviously the PF is a position that needs to be improved by us
 
Borgsta said:
Lots of rumours going about for the Magic.

Contrary to what Otis Smith says the Magic have been in talks with Sacramento about Miller and Garcia.

Also in talks with Miami for Haslem and Seattle about Wilcox / Thomas.

Obviously the PF is a position that needs to be improved by us
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Both of those players make so much sense for the magic - which means Otis Smith probably won't get them.

If you do get Haslem (or any starting calibre PF), what happens with Lewis/Turkoglu on defense? You reckon either can guard 2s?
 
If we get Haslem or Wilcox it would be sensational.

Garcia would be bloody brilliant although it would have no chance I would think.

Wishful thinking has a lineup of;

C. Dwight Howard/Foyle
PF. Udonis Haslem/Cook
SF. Rashard Lewis/JJ
SG. Hedo Turkoglu/Garcia/Evans
PG. Jameer Nelson/Dooling

Yeah Hedo at 6'10 guarding the smaller guards is a problem, but just try to drive by him with Dwight and Haslem in the lane, I dare ya!

That team is seriously sick. Never going to happen.
 
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If we get Haslem or Wilcox it would be sensational.

Garcia would be bloody brilliant although it would have no chance I would think.

Wishful thinking has a lineup of;

C. Dwight Howard/Foyle
PF. Udonis Haslem/Cook
SF. Rashard Lewis/JJ
SG. Hedo Turkoglu/Garcia/Evans
PG. Jameer Nelson/Dooling

Yeah Hedo at 6'10 guarding the smaller guards is a problem, but just try to drive by him with Dwight and Haslem in the lane, I dare ya!

That team is seriously sick. Never going to happen.
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Almost. But JJ at SF? Never.
 

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Magic Dangling Expiring Contracts
February 19, 2008 - 5:52 pm
Orlando Sentinel -
The Orlando Magic are reportedly shopping the expiring contracts of forward Pat Garrity and others as the league heads into the trade deadline, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

GM Otis Smith is looking to add a defensive-minded forward like Kurt Thomas and is trying to use the expiring contracts of players Carlos Arroyo, Maurice Evans, James Augustine, Keyon Dooling, and Garrity as Thursday draws closer.



Orlando Interested In Kurt Thomas
February 19, 2008 - 4:07 am
Seattle Post-Intelligencer -
Seattle figures to increase the playing time of young big man Robert Swift at the expense of Kurt Thomas, the Seattle Post-Intelligencer is reporting, leaving the Sonics with a dilemma as to what to do with Thomas only days out from the trade deadline.

With Orlando amongst other teams showing interest in the veteran big man, the Sonics need to decide if they're going to keep Thomas in a reduced role for the remainder of the season or send him to a contender.

Thomas said he has enjoyed his time in Seattle.

"It's been great here. My teammates have been outstanding. The coaches have been great here," Thomas said. "The organization has been great, the fans. The city is beautiful up here. So I have really enjoyed myself."

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50955/20080219/magic_dangling_expiring_contracts/
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/50936/20080219/orlando_interested_in_kurt_thomas/
 
I would be very surprised if Sacramento traded Garcia. Petrie likes him as the spark plug off the bench type of players who can do a bit of everything but is not great at anything.

Brad Miller to Magic has made SO much sense for me for SO long. He would be a perfect complement to Dwight and Miller is having a VERY good season. He is playing his backside off this year.

Moving Miller and Artest for expirings and picks would give us cap room this off season. Not sure who might be available in FA but it would speed up the rebuilding considerbaly IMHO.
 
Ric Bucher from ESPN said that Denver will send Yakhouba + Wafer + 1st to the Sonics for Delonte + 2nd, which will be done pretty soon.

Someone else from ESPN also said that Artest will be a Nugget before the trade deadline, and that the Kings have given up on trying to get Kleiza.
 
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- With the Jason Kidd trade finally, mercifully out of the way, the New Jersey Nets were moving forward Tuesday in their efforts to trade Vince Carter.
Multiple sources told ESPN.com that talks with the Indiana Pacers regarding a Carter-for-Jermaine O'Neal swap were dormant, but not dead, after the Nets spent nearly a week devoting their attention to the Kidd deal with Dallas.
Another source said there had been preliminary discussions on a three-way trade that would include, among other things, Carter going to the New York Knicks, Eddy Curry to Miami and the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis to New Jersey.
Speaking with writers at the team's headquarters Tuesday, Thorn was asked if the continued delays in the Kidd trade -- first agreed to last Wednesday but not completed until Tuesday -- had impacted him on other trade fronts.
"Maybe it did in one other thing we were having discussions about," Thorn conceded.
Thorn returned to his office Tuesday after enduring a four-hour flight delay in Atlanta while returning from All-Star Weekend. It was in one of the waiting lounges at Hartsfield International Airport where he spoke on his cell phone with Dallas owner Mark Cuban at 7 p.m. Sunday night and finalized the final details of the tortuous deal sending Kidd, Antoine Wright and Malik Allen to Dallas for Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop, two first-round draft picks, Maurice Ager, Trenton Hassell and Keith Van Horn.
Dallas surrendered first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, although the Mavericks will keep their 2008 pick and surrender picks in 2009 and 2011 if they fail to make the playoffs this season. There is no protection on the 2010 (or 2011) first-round pick, Thorn said.

Thorn also said there were "no conditions whatsoever" on Van Horn's inclusion in the trade, but he said Van Horn would report to New Jersey.
Sources who spoke to Thorn in New Orleans said he is committed to the idea of moving Carter, although the remaining three-plus years of Carter's four-year, $62 million contract is a significant obstacle. And there are questions about whether owner Bruce Ratner's approval would be guaranteed if Thorn were able to work out a trade.
The Knicks have discussed several Carter trade possibilities with the Nets, including, in December, one scenario that the Knicks turned down because it would have cost them Jamal Crawford. (The teams have not made a trade with each other since 1981, when Mike Woodson went to the Nets from the Knicks.)
Thorn disputed the premise when asked if the Kidd trade was a concession that the Nets were in "rebuilding" mode. But there was no denying that the move to acquire Harris is one of the first long-term moves aimed at transforming the roster by the time the franchise moves to Brooklyn in 2010 or 2011. Harris is under contract for five more years.
"The reality of it is we were not a championship contender this year. The reality is there are a lot more teams capable of doing that than us," Thorn said.
Thorn lauded Kidd, though he indicated the organization made up its mind to trade Kidd after what was widely regarded as a one-day strike in December when the point guard called in sick with a migraine headache.
"Over the course of time it became evident that Jason's heart wasn't in it, and with him especially, if his heart's not in it, he's not the same player," Thorn said.
Thorn also insisted that although Kidd asked to be traded to a contender, he would have dealt him to a non-contending team if he had received a better offer.
"But when you talk about a player of that age, and with the size of that contract, right away you can eliminate about 20 teams," noted Thorn.
Sources with knowledge of the Pacers-Nets trade discussions said the Nets were not concerned with the medical condition of O'Neal, who has not played since Jan. 16 due to soreness in his surgically repaired left knee. O'Neal is not expected to be in the lineup for Indiana on Wednesday night against Cleveland.
A big factor in any Pacers-Nets trade would be the question of whether the Pacers would be willing to take on the remainder of Carter's contract, or if they would be able to move him elsewhere in a three-way deal that would bring back expiring contracts, a young big man and a draft pick. O'Neal said publicly last summer that he'd welcome a trade to New Jersey, and his stance is not believed to have changed.
Executives around the league said there was an unusually high level of trade discussions as the clock wound down to Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trading deadline. One source said the Denver Nuggets were making "a harder push" in their efforts to acquire Ron Artest from the Kings, although it was unclear if that meant they were now willing to include Linas Kleiza or were re-exploring the possibility of trading Nene to Sacramento.
"The time it really heats up is Tuesday through Thursday," said Thorn, who will be fueling plenty of that heat himself between now and 3 p.m. Thursday.
 
Crumpler83 said:
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- With the Jason Kidd trade finally, mercifully out of the way, the New Jersey Nets were moving forward Tuesday in their efforts to trade Vince Carter.
Multiple sources told ESPN.com that talks with the Indiana Pacers regarding a Carter-for-Jermaine O'Neal swap were dormant, but not dead, after the Nets spent nearly a week devoting their attention to the Kidd deal with Dallas.
Another source said there had been preliminary discussions on a three-way trade that would include, among other things, Carter going to the New York Knicks, Eddy Curry to Miami and the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis to New Jersey.
Speaking with writers at the team's headquarters Tuesday, Thorn was asked if the continued delays in the Kidd trade -- first agreed to last Wednesday but not completed until Tuesday -- had impacted him on other trade fronts.
"Maybe it did in one other thing we were having discussions about," Thorn conceded.
Thorn returned to his office Tuesday after enduring a four-hour flight delay in Atlanta while returning from All-Star Weekend. It was in one of the waiting lounges at Hartsfield International Airport where he spoke on his cell phone with Dallas owner Mark Cuban at 7 p.m. Sunday night and finalized the final details of the tortuous deal sending Kidd, Antoine Wright and Malik Allen to Dallas for Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop, two first-round draft picks, Maurice Ager, Trenton Hassell and Keith Van Horn.
Dallas surrendered first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, although the Mavericks will keep their 2008 pick and surrender picks in 2009 and 2011 if they fail to make the playoffs this season. There is no protection on the 2010 (or 2011) first-round pick, Thorn said.

Thorn also said there were "no conditions whatsoever" on Van Horn's inclusion in the trade, but he said Van Horn would report to New Jersey.
Sources who spoke to Thorn in New Orleans said he is committed to the idea of moving Carter, although the remaining three-plus years of Carter's four-year, $62 million contract is a significant obstacle. And there are questions about whether owner Bruce Ratner's approval would be guaranteed if Thorn were able to work out a trade.
The Knicks have discussed several Carter trade possibilities with the Nets, including, in December, one scenario that the Knicks turned down because it would have cost them Jamal Crawford. (The teams have not made a trade with each other since 1981, when Mike Woodson went to the Nets from the Knicks.)
Thorn disputed the premise when asked if the Kidd trade was a concession that the Nets were in "rebuilding" mode. But there was no denying that the move to acquire Harris is one of the first long-term moves aimed at transforming the roster by the time the franchise moves to Brooklyn in 2010 or 2011. Harris is under contract for five more years.
"The reality of it is we were not a championship contender this year. The reality is there are a lot more teams capable of doing that than us," Thorn said.
Thorn lauded Kidd, though he indicated the organization made up its mind to trade Kidd after what was widely regarded as a one-day strike in December when the point guard called in sick with a migraine headache.
"Over the course of time it became evident that Jason's heart wasn't in it, and with him especially, if his heart's not in it, he's not the same player," Thorn said.
Thorn also insisted that although Kidd asked to be traded to a contender, he would have dealt him to a non-contending team if he had received a better offer.
"But when you talk about a player of that age, and with the size of that contract, right away you can eliminate about 20 teams," noted Thorn.
Sources with knowledge of the Pacers-Nets trade discussions said the Nets were not concerned with the medical condition of O'Neal, who has not played since Jan. 16 due to soreness in his surgically repaired left knee. O'Neal is not expected to be in the lineup for Indiana on Wednesday night against Cleveland.
A big factor in any Pacers-Nets trade would be the question of whether the Pacers would be willing to take on the remainder of Carter's contract, or if they would be able to move him elsewhere in a three-way deal that would bring back expiring contracts, a young big man and a draft pick. O'Neal said publicly last summer that he'd welcome a trade to New Jersey, and his stance is not believed to have changed.
Executives around the league said there was an unusually high level of trade discussions as the clock wound down to Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trading deadline. One source said the Denver Nuggets were making "a harder push" in their efforts to acquire Ron Artest from the Kings, although it was unclear if that meant they were now willing to include Linas Kleiza or were re-exploring the possibility of trading Nene to Sacramento.
"The time it really heats up is Tuesday through Thursday," said Thorn, who will be fueling plenty of that heat himself between now and 3 p.m. Thursday.
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my eyes hurt!
 

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Not a rumour but a confirmed trade. Spurs deal Barry, Elson and a first rounder in 2009 to Seatle for Kurt Thomas.

Puts the spurs under the luxury tax and they will also send some of those savings to the Sonics.

All in all, Seattle have ended up with 3 first rounders from Lewis sign and trade. Some brilliants trading by Seattle in the last few months :thumbsu:
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Not a rumour but a confirmed trade. Spurs deal Barry, Elson and a first rounder in 2009 to Seatle for Kurt Thomas.

Puts the spurs under the luxury tax and they will also send some of those savings to the Sonics.

All in all, Seattle have ended up with 3 first rounders from Lewis sign and trade. Some brilliants trading by Seattle in the last few months :thumbsu:
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Beat you to it ;)

But yeah, great job by Sam Presti.
 
Crumpler83 said:
EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- With the Jason Kidd trade finally, mercifully out of the way, the New Jersey Nets were moving forward Tuesday in their efforts to trade Vince Carter.
Multiple sources told ESPN.com that talks with the Indiana Pacers regarding a Carter-for-Jermaine O'Neal swap were dormant, but not dead, after the Nets spent nearly a week devoting their attention to the Kidd deal with Dallas.
Another source said there had been preliminary discussions on a three-way trade that would include, among other things, Carter going to the New York Knicks, Eddy Curry to Miami and the expiring contracts of Jason Williams and Ricky Davis to New Jersey.
Speaking with writers at the team's headquarters Tuesday, Thorn was asked if the continued delays in the Kidd trade -- first agreed to last Wednesday but not completed until Tuesday -- had impacted him on other trade fronts.
"Maybe it did in one other thing we were having discussions about," Thorn conceded.
Thorn returned to his office Tuesday after enduring a four-hour flight delay in Atlanta while returning from All-Star Weekend. It was in one of the waiting lounges at Hartsfield International Airport where he spoke on his cell phone with Dallas owner Mark Cuban at 7 p.m. Sunday night and finalized the final details of the tortuous deal sending Kidd, Antoine Wright and Malik Allen to Dallas for Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop, two first-round draft picks, Maurice Ager, Trenton Hassell and Keith Van Horn.
Dallas surrendered first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, although the Mavericks will keep their 2008 pick and surrender picks in 2009 and 2011 if they fail to make the playoffs this season. There is no protection on the 2010 (or 2011) first-round pick, Thorn said.

Thorn also said there were "no conditions whatsoever" on Van Horn's inclusion in the trade, but he said Van Horn would report to New Jersey.
Sources who spoke to Thorn in New Orleans said he is committed to the idea of moving Carter, although the remaining three-plus years of Carter's four-year, $62 million contract is a significant obstacle. And there are questions about whether owner Bruce Ratner's approval would be guaranteed if Thorn were able to work out a trade.
The Knicks have discussed several Carter trade possibilities with the Nets, including, in December, one scenario that the Knicks turned down because it would have cost them Jamal Crawford. (The teams have not made a trade with each other since 1981, when Mike Woodson went to the Nets from the Knicks.)
Thorn disputed the premise when asked if the Kidd trade was a concession that the Nets were in "rebuilding" mode. But there was no denying that the move to acquire Harris is one of the first long-term moves aimed at transforming the roster by the time the franchise moves to Brooklyn in 2010 or 2011. Harris is under contract for five more years.
"The reality of it is we were not a championship contender this year. The reality is there are a lot more teams capable of doing that than us," Thorn said.
Thorn lauded Kidd, though he indicated the organization made up its mind to trade Kidd after what was widely regarded as a one-day strike in December when the point guard called in sick with a migraine headache.
"Over the course of time it became evident that Jason's heart wasn't in it, and with him especially, if his heart's not in it, he's not the same player," Thorn said.
Thorn also insisted that although Kidd asked to be traded to a contender, he would have dealt him to a non-contending team if he had received a better offer.
"But when you talk about a player of that age, and with the size of that contract, right away you can eliminate about 20 teams," noted Thorn.
Sources with knowledge of the Pacers-Nets trade discussions said the Nets were not concerned with the medical condition of O'Neal, who has not played since Jan. 16 due to soreness in his surgically repaired left knee. O'Neal is not expected to be in the lineup for Indiana on Wednesday night against Cleveland.
A big factor in any Pacers-Nets trade would be the question of whether the Pacers would be willing to take on the remainder of Carter's contract, or if they would be able to move him elsewhere in a three-way deal that would bring back expiring contracts, a young big man and a draft pick. O'Neal said publicly last summer that he'd welcome a trade to New Jersey, and his stance is not believed to have changed.
Executives around the league said there was an unusually high level of trade discussions as the clock wound down to Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trading deadline. One source said the Denver Nuggets were making "a harder push" in their efforts to acquire Ron Artest from the Kings, although it was unclear if that meant they were now willing to include Linas Kleiza or were re-exploring the possibility of trading Nene to Sacramento.
"The time it really heats up is Tuesday through Thursday," said Thorn, who will be fueling plenty of that heat himself between now and 3 p.m. Thursday.
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Yes I can see why it was so hard to fix. :confused:

Memo to Borgsta, use advanced edit. ;)

Still a bit uncomfortable to read though.
 

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Good move by the Spurs, it was clear they had to something with Gasol and Shaq moving to conteders.

Elson and Oberto are clearly not up to it, so bringing in Thomas, adds an excellent defender to the roster to help out Timmy D.
 
Cut and paste job. Wasn't gonna post it but there was some interesting tid bits I thought ppl would be interested in!!
I like the Kurt Thomas trade for the Spurs. Puts them right back in the picture out West IMO although they were never truly out of it. Gives them an experienced big body to compete with the beats out West.
 
New Orleans get Mike James and Bonzi Wells and sending Bobby Jackson to the Rockets.

Apparently, Denver are close to getting Artest (the Kings gm wants to wait til the final second), and talking trade possibilities on a Eddy Curry and Nene swap.

And Mike Miller has reportedly been traded but the team is yet to be revealed, hence the DNP and not being activated in the Grizzlies' game.
 
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eathb said:
And Mike Miller has reportedly been traded but the team is yet to be revealed, hence the DNP and not being activated in the Grizzlies' game.
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You sure that wasn't just a case of back spasims?
 

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