Undertaker?

[Cleavy]

and then they're 3 hours from then on (until they realise that it's a dumb idea)?

 

[Quivorir]

Yep

 

[Partridge]

Undertaker is/was a better in-ring worker than all three of those guys. He just didn't pull as much money or have the same charisma on the mike and yet he has one of the greatest gimmicks of all time.

Hogan yes, no way was he better than Austin, not remotely. Or Rock either personally.

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

Well Taker is only there now to steal matches from hard workers and collect a fat pay cheque. It's abit sad when People have to go easy on him in case they break his hip or worse. Give it up old man.

 

[Quivorir]

Well Taker is only there now to steal matches from hard workers and collect a fat pay cheque. It's abit sad when People have to go easy on him in case they break his hip or worse. Give it up old man.

Bit harsh, taker is still fit. He is there cause Vince wants him to be there, he can still put on great matches.

FWIW, Michelle McCool just had his kid (boy), will his Son be the one to finally break his streak in 20 years?

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

Bit harsh, taker is still fit. He is there cause Vince wants him to be there, he can still put on great matches.

FWIW, Michelle McCool just had his kid (boy), will his Son be the one to finally break his streak in 20 years?

I know it's Harsh. I wouldn't be going that hard on Him if he would actually have a couple matches a year and lose one. Doesn't have to Lose at WM if he don't want to drop a match there.

Although i seen a interview with Taker close to 10 years ago now where Taker claimed he would be slowing down and helping the younger rising talent, what happened to this?

 

[Quivorir]

I know it's Harsh. I wouldn't be going that hard on Him if he would actually have a couple matches a year and lose one. Doesn't have to Lose at WM if he don't want to drop a match there.

Although i seen a interview with Taker close to 10 years ago now where Taker claimed he would be slowing down and helping the younger rising talent, what happened to this?

I've read he does a lot of recruiting, which im assuming he would help train with too. Id like him to leave the ring myself as I don't want him to turn out like a Rick Flair or a Hulk Hogan. As he draws though its inevitable that Vince will keep asking him to be at Mania until he tells him no.

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

I've read he does a lot of recruiting, which im assuming he would help train with too. Id like him to leave the ring myself as I don't want him to turn out like a Rick Flair or a Hulk Hogan. As he draws though its inevitable that Vince will keep asking him to be at Mania until he tells him no.

I'm not saying i don't rate him, He's STILL putting on MOTY after MOTY, I just haven't enjoyed him as much since Taker/Brock fued. HBK/TAKER/HHH has been good, don't think it would be MOTY or close without HBK or HHH. He deserves as much respect as HBK, Austin, Rock and HHH.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

StevenwellerHFC raises a fair point.

Every 30-40 min WrestleMania match the Undertaker has is one less 30-40 min WrestleMania match with full-time, prime-of-their-career wrestlers in it.

 

[PVF]

Although i seen a interview with Taker close to 10 years ago now where Taker claimed he would be slowing down and helping the younger rising talent, what happened to this?

He put over Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy, Heidenreich(bust), Brock Lesnar, John Cena, The Great Khali(bust) in the last 10 years.

I will admit I didn't like him facing HHH again this year but it did turn out to be a pretty awesome match. Plus he is a main draw at Wrestlemania, people want to see him there.

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

He put over Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy, Heidenreich(bust), Brock Lesnar, John Cena, The Great Khali(bust) in the last 10 years.

I will admit I didn't like him facing HHH again this year but it did turn out to be a pretty awesome match. Plus he is a main draw at Wrestlemania, people want to see him there.

What has he done in the last 6 Wrestlemania's except collect cheques? 23 Injured-tista, 24 Edge, 25 HBK, 26 HBK again, 27 HHH, 28 HHH again.

If he wanted to be remembered putting over young talent rather then collecting cheques he could job to Rhodes at WM 29.

 

[PVF]

What has he done in the last 5 Wrestlemania's except collect cheques? 23 Injured-tista, 24 Edge, 25 HBK, 26 HBK again, 27 HHH, 28 HHH again.

And the reason why he gets those cheques is because he is one of the biggest draws for the event. Yeah the last fours years are repetitive and I wish he faced someone like CM Punk but people still want to see him and the streak.

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

If Brock was to face Taker at WM29 instead of possibly facing HHH, i bet everyone in the back would be in Brocks ear, be gentle with him, don't break him.

 

[PVF]

If Brock was to face Taker at WM29 instead of possibly facing HHH, i bet everyone in the back would be in Brocks ear, be gentle with him, don't break him.

What has that got to do with anything? And why would he break? He ain't 60 years old and he's in pretty good shape for a guy his age.

 

[StevenwellerHFC]

What has that got to do with anything? And why would he break? He ain't 60 years old and he's in pretty good shape for a guy his age.

Takers knees are shot, Hips going, he's had his orbital bone broken twice, his rotator cuff's are going.

Taker suffered legit pain during WM28 vs. HHH, more then just selling spots, his body language throughout and after the match was obvious he hasn't got much longer to go. Possibly need a walking frame soon, wouldn't slow his entrance down any.

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[PVF]

 

[Partridge]

Undertaker is/was a better in-ring worker than all three of those guys. He just didn't pull as much money or have the same charisma on the mike and yet he has one of the greatest gimmicks of all time.

Much better than Hogan yes. But no way was he better than Austin or Rock, and he's not on the same planet as Michaels (very, very few are though). It's not a coincidence that the shortlist of Undertaker's very best matches features ones against Michaels either.